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CGI Still of Optimus and Jetfire Combined mode

Posted on 05-28-2009 at 03:47 AM by REDLINE

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TFW2005, via TFG2.com, is proud to present to you some really neat pictures of ROTF Optimus Prime combined with Jetfire CGI High-res imagees. You can see the two truly do meld together, as in this form Optimus really is beefed up with extra amor/bulk all over his legs and torso, sports extra weaponry, and can fly in robot mode. Also included is a photo of Mixmaster's robot mode. Click the thumbnail to the left to see the full-sized images, in both the front and back modes, as well as a neat scene between Jetfire/Optimus and a villain from Revenge of the Fallen! Click Discuss to talk about these cool photographs.
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DISCUSSION: (Jump To This Thread On The Boards)
seeker311:
who's the 3rd robot? I actually like this Optimus upgrade better than an actual combiner.
sjkozy:
You know the more I look at it this combinantion, the more I seem to be dissapointed. I mean if Prime is meant to grow as a leader, he should be granted abilities that would allow him to be himself, and not a mish mash of spare parts. Prime is not meant to fly, Autobots aren't meant to fly, that right belongs too Cons, it's what makes the two sides different.
As a whole I like the combination, if it wasn't prime. If it was a suped up Megs or possibly Nemesis Prime, but I'm not really digging it on OP.

On The other hand, the design is Pretty damn sweet, even though Blackbirds don't have any armament.(so the guns are strictly cybertronian design) I do like the height increase, though again it reminds me too much of a 'Con then anything else, wich I guess is all right since it's Jetfire's parts.
Deefuzz:
Ok I really like that. ALOT
Fit For natalie:
Quote:
Originally Posted by vektsilver View Post
if you could completely ruin one character with putting all the bad ass stuff you could on him you would get this.

Ya sure you can make things look cool adding all sorts of shit on them but now you have taken this whole thing so far away from original character you have ended up with a Gundam movie.

I love gundam dont get me wrong but I love Gundam for differant reasons than Transformers and mixing the two does not instantly make for a win.

This is just a stupid cop out for bad decisions made with this franchise. I ll give you that its cool looking but now detachment from this being optimus prime is complete and its no longer him.

Its just some killing machine gundam like abomination with flecks of blue and red. Most of you seem to be just fawning over anything that comes out for the movie no matter how far away from the core of TF it is. There is such a thing as unconditional love for a thing but sometimes you also just have to put it down too.
G1 started the whole "Optimus Prime combining with other things and other dudes for massive guns and armour" gimmick. This is just continuing the tradition.

Quote:
just had to add this because this i think hits on my point. However my disagreement is that I think Hasbro has lost their way and they are just making transforming robots. I mean these are soulless creations in my opinion they are missing identity really. This is mostly the fault of the movie with the visual choice of the characters. Where evil is monsterous and Good is just soulless and bland. Everything has to be ultra bad ass which means very little room for personality on these creations. Takara gets the whole thing and how its supposed to be but Hasbro really hadncuffs them when it comes to the movie. They just hand them a robot movie concept ( non transforming ) and a vehicle and says make it work. just about any line of TF other than the movie has a greal deal of personality .
Hasbro has had more to do with Transformers being about living aliens from Cybertron than Takara did. Never forget that they and Marvel were the ones who created the franchise, and Hasbro have been behind almost every new incarnation of Transformers. I don't recall if you're one of those people who hated Animated, but there you go: Animated was the epitome of personality in Transformers in both characterisation and design.

It is a false statement to say Takara "gets the whole thing and how they are supposed to be" considering their business model for Transformers outside of joint lines has been "make new versions of G1 Convoy and maybe Megatron".

As for Hasbro "just hand[ing] them a robot movie concept ( non transforming ) and a vehicle and says make it work", are you suggesting Hasbro puts in no work whatsoever into the movie lines? From what I understand, like every other major TF toyline, Hasbro has to design concepts of what toys to make, how they transform (roughly), what gimmicks it has, only this time the visual look of the transformers have been decided by somebody else. That's why dudes like Eric Siebenaler get joint credit on toys even if they were based on robot designs by Bay's artists.
Ephland:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sjkozy View Post
You know the more I look at it this combinantion, the more I seem to be dissapointed. I mean if Prime is meant to grow as a leader, he should be granted abilities that would allow him to be himself, and not a mish mash of spare parts. Prime is not meant to fly, Autobots aren't meant to fly, that right belongs too Cons, it's what makes the two sides different.
As a whole I like the combination, if it wasn't prime. If it was a suped up Megs or possibly Nemesis Prime, but I'm not really digging it on OP.

On The other hand, the design is Pretty damn sweet, even though Blackbirds don't have any armament.(so the guns are strictly cybertronian design) I do like the height increase, though again it reminds me too much of a 'Con then anything else, wich I guess is all right since it's Jetfire's parts.
Given what the Autobots are up against in this movie, they would need to be given some sort of advantage, seeing as how the majority of the additions to their team are rather small to begin with. and why shouldn't Autobots fly? the ones who do are among the coolest ones.
Shizuka:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fit For natalie View Post
G1 started the whole "Optimus Prime combining with other things and other dudes for massive guns and armour" gimmick. This is just continuing the tradition.

Hasbro has had more to do with Transformers being about living aliens from Cybertron than Takara did. Never forget that they and Marvel were the ones who created the franchise, and Hasbro have been behind almost every new incarnation of Transformers. I don't recall if you're one of those people who hated Animated, but there you go: Animated was the epitome of personality in Transformers in both characterisation and design.

It is a false statement to say Takara "gets the whole thing and how they are supposed to be" considering their business model for Transformers outside of joint lines has been "make new versions of G1 Convoy and maybe Megatron".

As for Hasbro "just hand[ing] them a robot movie concept ( non transforming ) and a vehicle and says make it work", are you suggesting Hasbro puts in no work whatsoever into the movie lines? From what I understand, like every other major TF toyline, Hasbro has to design concepts of what toys to make, how they transform (roughly), what gimmicks it has, only this time the visual look of the transformers have been decided by somebody else. That's why dudes like Eric Siebenaler get joint credit on toys even if they were based on robot designs by Bay's artists.
Actually, I think that the toys are losing their edge. For example the last TF I bought and like until recently was 2007 movie Starscream and now I bought Sideswipe. And as much as I love him to bits, I thought as soon as I transformed him that he was made of some sort of cheap plastic. On monday I finally got 2007 movie Jazz and although the articulation isn't anything to celebrate, his model is made of fairly good plastic. I'm actually afraid of playing with Sideswipe in case he might break.
Baird:
Combined mode looks extremely impressive, very pleased with it actually. Prime seems to gain an extra 10 feet or so in height (head to toe) and another 10 on top of that if you include his back-engines. Now that's three designs I like from the new movie (this, Long Haul and Sideswipe). Mixmaster looks interesting too, a lot better than the toy.
mikeyfuzz:
That is one big jet pack
Ephland:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shizuka View Post
Actually, I think that the toys are losing their edge. For example the last TF I bought and like until recently was 2007 movie Starscream and now I bought Sideswipe. And as much as I love him to bits, I thought as soon as I transformed him that he was made of some sort of cheap plastic. On monday I finally got 2007 movie Jazz and although the articulation isn't anything to celebrate, his model is made of fairly good plastic. I'm actually afraid of playing with Sideswipe in case he might break.
Dude, who did you use for shipping - so I can avoid them?
Brooticus:
Absolutely stunning!

I wonder what this will mean for primes alt mode? Supersonic Stealth Flying Flame Truck?

Seriously though, I hope this armor eventually gets retooled so it can transform into a trailer - Power Master Movie Prime! I can dream...
KING KONVOY:
i'm really hoping we are currently combining them improperly.
hutchprime:
That is incredible.

If I could get a masterpiece style toy that came close to looking that cool I'd pay ~$250+ for it.
Black Oracle:
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Originally Posted by spiritprime View Post
I can fangirl drool all night long here! He's so... beautiful and sexy!

FUCKIN' EPIC AWSOMESAUCE!
*Joins spiritprime in fangirl drooling all night long over JetPrime.* Soooo gorgeous! He's really been beefed up!

Amazing how much better this artwork makes him look as compared to to the toys. The combined leader Prime figure looks like his 'shoulder pad' armour is oversized, but in this artwork, they seem much more in proportion size-wise. Plus the wings on the combined figure don't seem as prominent, but in these images, they spread out more imposingly from Prime's body. Jetprime should be a magnificent sight in the movie! Hope we can have a decent look at his whole form amidst all the pummelling action he'll no doubt be engaged in!

Quote:
Originally Posted by vektsilver View Post
if you could completely ruin one character with putting all the bad ass stuff you could on him you would get this.

Ya sure you can make things look cool adding all sorts of shit on them but now you have taken this whole thing so far away from original character you have ended up with a Gundam movie.

I love gundam dont get me wrong but I love Gundam for differant reasons than Transformers and mixing the two does not instantly make for a win.

This is just a stupid cop out for bad decisions made with this franchise. I ll give you that its cool looking but now detachment from this being optimus prime is complete and its no longer him.

Its just some killing machine gundam like abomination with flecks of blue and red. Most of you seem to be just fawning over anything that comes out for the movie no matter how far away from the core of TF it is. There is such a thing as unconditional love for a thing but sometimes you also just have to put it down too.




just had to add this because this i think hits on my point. However my disagreement is that I think Hasbro has lost their way and they are just making transforming robots. I mean these are soulless creations in my opinion they are missing identity really. This is mostly the fault of the movie with the visual choice of the characters. Where evil is monsterous and Good is just soulless and bland. Everything has to be ultra bad ass which means very little room for personality on these creations. Takara gets the whole thing and how its supposed to be but Hasbro really hadncuffs them when it comes to the movie. They just hand them a robot movie concept ( non transforming ) and a vehicle and says make it work. just about any line of TF other than the movie has a greal deal of personality .
I can respect these sorts of concerns vektsilver. It wasn't until after G1 that Optimus began being portrayed in combined forms and it may seem like the essence of who Optimus Prime was is becoming distant in terms of appearance with time. But to me, i've always thought the idea of robots combining was a very natural progression for the Transformers. Once you've done the original idea of transforming robots, what comes next to keep the concept fresh and creative? Robot combinations seems like a good answer. Two or more robots combining to create new, bigger and more powerful robots. It seems like a logical evolution for them really.

I personally don't think the core essence of Optimus Prime has been lost with the concept of him combining with others or gaining new armour and arsenals. If anything, these combinations have only highlighted his qualities of leadership, determination and power in a visual way. It serves to heighten the greatness that we all know Optimus for. We all still remember and know Optimus as a heroic, self-sacrificing, freedom-defending leader of goodness. None of this has changed since his conception in G1, and i don't think our ideas of Optimus Prime will change in any significant way for a long time if ever. He's already a cherished and preserved icon that most would find unfathomable to change the core traits of. Just because his appearance changes with new forms he adopts doesn't mean his core spirit is being lost and he is becoming soulless. We remember him always for certain qualities, no matter form he takes. And all the new, different and combined forms he does adopt usually emphasizes his classic and timeless traits and identity.

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Originally Posted by knoted View Post
Isn't that a purist point of view ?

From what Roberto told, I think this combo will actually symbolize Prime's growth as a Leader. Regardless of aesthetic style.

Progression of a character is fundamental to a story with which the audience can identify.

I mean ; look what happened to G1 Prime ; he didn't 'grow' as a character anymore. Hence, he was replaced by Rodimus.

But with this...movie Prime as a character will actually 'grow' as a Leader.
knoted has hit on a good point here. As much as we love him, Optimus Prime could not possibly remain totally unchanged forever. He needs to progress, to evolve, he had to 'grow' and mature into something more than what he started out as. And this has happened in a way that i don't think we can really complain about. G1 Optimus was just the average heroic leader of the good guy Autobots back in the 80s, now he's grown into something bigger and wider-reaching: an influential and recognizable image. He has become grander than his humble beginnings as a simple cartoon good guy leader. Time has only magnified Optimus Prime's heroic traits and these are being presented in modern times with the new and stylized forms he takes. His appearance has to develop to keep up with times, but his core traits remain preserved like scripture with each new incarnation.
iam82nz:
Jetfire prime looks ok. With all that, there is'nt much room for manuverability. I like the addition to the arms and the extra 3rd parts to his legs, but there is'nt much done with his torso making him look inproportionate. The cockpit part of the jet would be better placed around his forearms or even around his chest, and alot of the kibble hanging off him could had been used to add girth and lengthen his torso. With all the kibble hanging off and the huge limbs and a tiny torso makes him look like he'd be prone to excessive force on his hip and shpulder joints. My opinion, it's ok for a draft, needs work.
Segor:
Pure win!!!!

too bad the toy does not look that cool.

Optimus is great, way better than the first one, Jetfire looks great by himself, but the combination does not look as good as I thought it would be..... BTY I'm talking about the toys, the CGI is once again:

PURE WIN
Kickback:
Keep in mind.

Dreamworks designs the movie Transformers. Hasbro takes their "robot mode" and tries to make a toy out of it. More times than not, Dreamworks is requested to "dumb down" their model(s).
poorboy8u:
This looks cool and all but I just don't seem to care for it.
Ultramax Primus:
The Optimus Prime Jetfire combo in ROTF kinda looks very similar to Optimus super mode in Transformers : Cybertron

Vizer:
*slight movie spoilers*
It looks okay. I understand Jetfire is a much bigger vehicle than Prime is, but that shoulder kibble could still be toned down. I'm not against OP combining, but it does seem kind of weird that he is essentially strapping a dead guy on to his back. Either way, I hope he gives Jetfire a proper burial afterwards (hopefully a little more than Jazz at least) and loses the combined mode for the next movie.
WWMEGATRON:
AWESOME !!!Still a long way for the 6-24 !!! Aaagh !!
Ktulu:
Gotta change that "CGI Still" quip on the front page to concept art, we don't want our TFW news to mislead do we?

It looks nicer than the toy, for sure. The main thing I don't like about the toy is how it doesn't really add much to the arms or legs. It's basically a backpack and a belt. The changes elsewhere are minimal at best. Here, Jetfire bits go every friggin where.
samtastic:
Quote:
Originally Posted by knoted View Post
It's probably handdrawn....with a wacom tablet in Photoshop....so technically speaking it's still computer generated imagery , though 2D.
DEFINITELY a 2D computer rendering. that precedes CG1 modeling.
kylash327:
so im guessing when optimus has all this stuff fused with him, he cant transform? or does he turn into a truck with an SR-71 on it...lol
Dave_6:
Awesome!

lt.jdavid:
jaw hits floor so had it shatters sending teeth and bone fragments everywhere.
Seeker24:
Holy Shit that is awesome!! i cant wait to see that on the big screen.
Gryph:
You know you can do that thing with the thrusters with the legends jet prime combo. All you have to do is pull the legs out a little, then rotate them so they're facing to the sides. Looks neat.
ALLAN:
Super fast pack Valkyrie Prime.

I like.
Nutcrusher:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizer View Post
*slight movie spoilers*
.
Use proper spoiler tags. You might ruin the movie for everyone that way.
Bgrngod:
Wow... this is gonna kick so much ass on film.

I really like that Mixmaster has shields. You don't see those all that often on TF's. He's just double bad-ass for dual-wielding them.
Darkspeed:
Quote:
Originally Posted by kylash327 View Post
so im guessing when optimus has all this stuff fused with him, he cant transform? or does he turn into a truck with an SR-71 on it...lol
Why transform? I doubt anyone is gonna bother him while he is armed with more firepower than the cast of Predator! ^^
Akumaxv:
Mixmaster looks great. I think Sideswipe and the Constructicons are my favorites. They beat the hell out of the original cast.

That Prime/Jetfire combination is an absolute mess. I like combining, but that one is just a mess of metal shards all over the place. Bleh. Makes

me hate movie Jetfire even more.
thygriever:
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Originally Posted by frenzy_rumble View Post
wow. love waking up to picture news. Seeing this, I have a lot of work ahead of me for my custom Prime/Jetfire. I think I have similar parts in my gundam boxes to really help pull this off, though many parts will have to detach and be extra...
and here's a side-by-side pic to compare the figure with the concept art:

you're making one? i think now i'll be looking forward to your custom the most because you have some of the best tf customs ever conceived by man
ZeroMayhem:
Total Domination!
artiepants:
don't get me wrong, i "get" how hard and impractical that combination would be to do with the toys, but i really can't help but be MASSIVELY disappointed now in the Leader Jetfire and the PrimeFire combo. just seems like they could have pulled something off that was a little better at least than what they did... Maybe for movie 3?

this art though is literally my favorite movie design! love the exposed engines and tail wings sticking off his calves..
Akumaxv:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSoundwaveGuy View Post
Am I the only one that finds this incredibly stupid?
P.S. You're not. I feel it's more of ILM doing "LOOK HOW MUCH STUFF WE CAN ANIMATE BECAUSE WE ARE SO AWESOME WE WANT AN OSCAR!!!!11"" nonsense.

I can't imagine how hard it will be to make out what's happening on screen once this thing is in motion. It seems like they've pulled back the camera on the bots this round which is great, but this may still be very difficult to discern once it's flying around, shooting, and doing all it's "bad-assness ultimate power form" action stuff..

To me this just looks like another generic 'giant extreme awesome flying robot with guns and shit sticking out of everywhere'. Sometimes less is more. Wish I could like it as much as some you other folks, but I just can't.
Nutcrusher:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akumaxv View Post
P.S. You're not. I feel it's more of ILM doing "LOOK HOW MUCH STUFF WE CAN ANIMATE BECAUSE WE ARE SO AWESOME WE WANT AN OSCAR!!!!11"" nonsense.
ILM doesn't do character design.
LightningZERO:
Man, it looks awesome!
Peaugh:
Quote:
Originally Posted by KING KONVOY View Post
i'm really hoping we are currently combining them improperly.
Not a chance in hell.
Bgrngod:
Quote:
Originally Posted by artiepants View Post
don't get me wrong, i "get" how hard and impractical that combination would be to do with the toys, but i really can't help but be MASSIVELY disappointed now in the Leader Jetfire and the PrimeFire combo. just seems like they could have pulled something off that was a little better at least than what they did... Maybe for movie 3?

this art though is literally my favorite movie design! love the exposed engines and tail wings sticking off his calves..
I'm the exact opposite. I find it very impressive that they got the toy to look like it did. Perhaps what we have seen is mistransformed a bit too.

I don't even think Jetfire will see his own bot-mode once I get my hands on one.
Stormcrow:
I've talked a lot of smack about the idea of Prime/Jetfire combining.

I have to admit, that does look pretty badass.
Autobot Spike:


THIS!!!! i was pretty damn close! heheh cept for.. you know.. the big jetpack instead of thruster feet. but ya. even have the canopy-pauldrons.


i'm so bad.


-A.S.
artiepants:
your goggles on Prime make me lol
Paxtin:
I think they really should have just made a new voyager Prime and then design that combine with a leader Jetfire. The scale would have worked so much better.

Ah well, I guess we shouldn't obsess over what should/could have been.

Though I really do hope they make another verison of like a two pack with a smaller scale Prime that comes with a Jet that turns into armor.
Yeah yeah, I know. ZOMG Heresy! I don't care, I want it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by kinjak
Love the design but lose the Kibble please!!!
*Psst That "kibble" is the mian reason for the combination. I don't think the idea was to just make Prime taller.
Welcome to the boards btw.
ease:
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Originally Posted by Shizuka View Post
Heart attack.
This. Seriously.
TonyzCustomz:
Holy Hell, This'll be lots of fun to make the toys movie accurate. *Jumps head first into parts bins.*
Alienbot:
Every Optimus Prime design feels, well... naked to me now that I've seen this godlike, powerful design.
Roook:
Wow. This might be the coolest thing I've seen about the new movie yet. That picture is insane! I can not wait to see that on the big screen. Look at that freakin gun arm!
Night Flame:
For the first time in years, I cry at the difference between an on-screen mode, and the equivalent toy version. 20 years from now, will we get Masterpiece Jetfire Prime Movie Combo Mode?
Dran0n:
AWESOME! That's gonna look cool
 
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