Autobot Jazz is back for Transformers Movie Sequel

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He can't be bothered with such things.

Explanation? Wow that's a pretty easy one, they are machines and thus operate under a different set of rules than we do.

Shoot up my computer and as long the hard drive isn't hit then my Japanese porn could live on with a different hard drive, RAM, and case. Blow up the engine in my car and as long as I wasn't a cheap bugger then the car could roll once again with a new motor. X-360's with the red ring of death end up back in the hands of their players after repairs.

I think it helps with the problem of the Transformers were just too weak in the first movie. Plus they could always say they messed up like with the tank's name so they meant to say Jazz was in status lock but they filmed the wrong lines of saying he was dead and didn't get around to fixing it for the DVD release.

A wizard did it.

Jazz is back, ah great, now with Micheal Bay saying he's dead and now this I'm confused.

Spoiler Alert v (for those that haven't seen the leeked first draft from a few months ago...



The Allspark Fragment & Matrix of Leadership play a very important roll in the first draft for TF2, No reason that Prime couldn't use the two to bring Jazz back to life or repair him if he scumbled to a statis lock instead of deactivation due to the damage he recieved...

Hell Soundwave uses them to resurect Megatron as well acording to it...

But it could also just be a part of the film where a Flashback featuring Jazz is important in some way.

Since I now know about Jazz coming back I may as well write my opinion about it.

Bringing Jazz back to life would make his death in the first movie completely pointless and would make it seem that Transformers can easily be rebuilt no matter how badly damaged they are. Once a character dies they should stay dead.
However, with a character like Megatron it makes sense to have him come back to life even more powerful, it would also put the Autobots in a more dangerous situation to get out of and it would be interesting to see if the Autobots can handle a stronger Megatron.

Here's my point of view:

Bringing Megatron back to life would make his death in the first movie completely pointless and would make it seem that Transformers can easily be rebuilt no matter how badly damaged they are. Once a character dies they should stay dead.
However, with a (SUPER COOL) character like Jazz it makes sense to have him come back to life even more powerful (AND COOLER), it would also put the Decepticons in a more dangerous situation to get out of and it would be interesting to see if the Decepticons can handle a stronger (AND MORE COOL) Jazz.

I'm just going to venture the possibility that Jazz's death will be "explained" the way people come back to life in the cartoon:

No explanation whatsoever. None. Like when the Decepticons died in "Heavy Metal War," and they're fine in season 2.

HO! HO! It's funny because you took what the other guy said and turned it around, swapping Jazz and Megatron from the original post.

I hope it's true since Jazz' death seemed a little unnecessary in my opinion. But, I'm not holding my breath in case it's not true.

Love seeing nearly everyone in the thread jumping to conclusions. likely just making flashbacks, whether its back on Cybertron, or wherever.

Well, what did you THINK Prime was going to do with that fragment of the Allspark?

Given that the Bethlehem/Fake China set is the location they're about to film, why would a flashback involve Jazz being in China (possibly) when the Autobots landed on Earth in Nevada?

Maybe he'll be in a flashback

If the actor is there maybe is has a cameo, like they are driving and see jazz but its just some car that looks like jazz but with a person in the car. hell the actor could even say bitches or something.

while i emphatize with folks who dont want to be spoiled, there is no way they can title this post effectively as a news post otherwise.

what were they gonna call this thread? "hai gaiz guezz which otobot kams bak in tee eff2, waz kackin beetches?!!!"

Let the VA do some work for a flashback scene or two on Cybertron and let Jazz be DEAD. Have the Solstice be there as a memorial for him.

Even if this site became completely spoiler free, some little bitch would blurt it out on the board anyway. That's what happened the first time.

I know you are only kidding, but it would make more sense for Megatron to come back to life because he has already absorbed all the power that he needs to bring him back; the Allspark.

wrong move to bring him back from the dead

One part of me's annoyed because I thought Jazz would have an honourable death. But the other part of me is interested because hopefully Jazz would have more dialogue. Here's hoping things would be promising!

I'm so excited about this news, I've designed a new sig.

Feel free to use it too if you like, just please credit me. Also, if you use it, save it yourself, don't hyperlink to my photobucket.

back on topic, I wonder if they'll paint him up like the Target Exclusive, considering that's what it's package says.

Why not bring Jazz back from the dead? why is that so hard a concept to grasp? If you cried because a 40ft robot doesn't turn into a puny handgun, why would you take offense to a "slain" autobot coming back to life? How is that less realistic? Prime does it in the G1 series repeatedly. 'Bots repeatedly die in "Transformers: Animated" and are revived by the Allspark. What's the big deal? Not like Jazz is the first character in fiction to come back from the dead. It worked for Gandolf in "Lord of the Rings," it worked for Neo in "The Matrix," and it worked for Jesus in the New Testiment. Now it is Jazz's turn.

Death is only a beginning.

Personally I have no qualms about a bot coming back to life (like Megatron perhaps).

However, if they bring back every bot that died then it undercuts any dramatic tension from a possible battle. Why worry about the fate of any character if they can just bring him back later. Jazz served a good role in that capacity in TF1 showing that the "good guys" are putting their lives on the line. I just wouldn't want to loose that.

First everyone whined and complained when Jazz died, now they're doing the same when they're bringing him back! Make up your minds!

Anyhow. This is good. Would love to see more Jazz.

Regarding bringing Megatron back:

I wouldn't mind at all if the second movie focused on Starscream and his seekers with perhaps a subplot of a team of Decepticons (Shockwave et al?) working to resurrect Megatron. Then maybe right at the end they could show Megatron's eyes light up and roll credits.

This would lead to the possibility of a leader-class Starscream toy, and I'm praying it could maybe look a wee bit more like a real jet from the side, unlike most of Has-Tak's jet robots. Always reminded me of the hair styles girls had in the 80's where they'd tease up their bangs: it would look fine from the front but from the side it would be just the bangs - what we used to call a "radar dish". Same with Has-Tak jets: they look fine from above - nevermind that they're 3x thicker than they should be... Maybe Hasbro should consult with Yamato. Of course, the first thing Yamato would say is "Lose the electronics and the missile-launching gimmickry."

If this is true, then YEAH!! Jazz was awesome.

Hey, if Jazz can come back, Why can't Megatron?
Maybe there still IS an allspark fragment in Megatrons chest...
I think so.

Lol Im sorry but I just dont think ANY of the bots got enough characterization in the first film for the audience to care enough about Jazz's death thus it wasnt dramatic in the slightest.

I hope they cut back on the ghetto nature because Animated Jazz seems spot on to classic G1 Jazz.

On the one hand I'm pretty pleased, since Jazz, along with Ironhide, was the best of the designs in the first movie.

On the other hand, I'd imagine that it's also a cost saving measure - the model already exists, so why not reuse it? Cheaper than creating a new design and countless frames of animation. It's almost a homage to repaints ^_^

Now if they could just make what's going on clearer when the robots are on-screen, that'd be a real improvement...

good and bad. Some robots should not come back to life but I do like Jazz. This news is surprising though!

I'm torn (sorry for the pun) on this one. Sure I like Jazz... most people do... but seriously. He we torn in HALF. He's DEAD (or, should be). Leave him!

Bleh. Leave him dead I say.

If they do bring him back, please let it be as big of a plot hole as can possibly be concieved. that way at least we know that Mr. Bay regcognizes the stupidity involved with bringing back dead characters.

well, we all accepted devastator standing up inside astrotain back in the day
and numerous characters appearing in g1 season 3 after dying in the movie
and that whole skyfire thing
inexplicable revivals are an important, if not vital part of transformers

Prime nipped the remainder all spark from meg's chest in movie 1.

More than enough to revive jazz with it.

If you've watched TF animated you'll know that's how it works anyway.

StarScream is immortal for having a fragment embedded in him.

Either this is misinformation or Bay was lying on his message board. We'll see, but if Jazz returns, make it good.

As much as I am glad Jazz is coming back for the sequel I hope he dies in it, again, but in a more epic way, like sacrificing himself, like what Impactor did in the uk comics.

allspark power!

Horrible news, IMHO. Re-activation drains away the seriousness of war; all meaning is washed away. What do I care who lives or dies, now? No big deal. I can handle this in the toon series, but not on the big screen.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, actually. I'm not so concerned about the 'how's, as I'm sure they'll probably come up with some Allspark-related way to do the miracle, which seems perfectly feasible.

It's the 'why' that bugs me. For one thing, his death was supposed to have had some meaning - it's hard to feel affected by Autobots' detahs in future if we known they can be brought back with some spare parts and some tinkering by Ratchet. Unless it's somehow a one-shot deal, and explained as such.
The other thing is that while normally Jazz is one of my favourite characters, his movie interpretation was awful, IMO. He seemed less like Jazz, and more like Blaster - without the wit. As someone mentioned earlier, he really did just sound like a thug, and none of the hideous lines he got helped to offset that. If he's just going to be more of the same, he might as well stay dead.

I guess that would explain why none of the Autobots really cared when he died, though.

What the fuck?
I thought he was dead, I didn't want him to die but he did, he's dead and when I get my copy on DVD I shall edit out all his scenes!
I'm joking but its really a middle finger to the fans, It'll be interesting to see how he comes back

Glad to see this.

Does this mean that I get a better toy this time?

Seriously, if he's comming back I want some kick ass Jazz hands this time, not the little "Hotpockety" looking, poorly executed little feeb-nubs that we got. How many Dr. Octopus action figures had to die so that our inadequate bitch cracking automiton could have something resembeling a proper set of hands?

... besides, I've had to suffer through the tyrades of my fiance sence we saw the movie last year. She was greatly troubled by poor Jazzes demise. "Why do they ALWAYS have to kill th black man?!!" I swear, if I hear her say it one more time I'm going to go down to the Pontiac dealer, buy a Solstice, tear it apart in the garage, and stick it in the back yard as a big bird feeder..... compleate with rotating Jazz hands.

Jazz should have stayed dead. But if he does come back, I can take solace in not having to buy another pontiac solstice figure right?

Also if jazz learned something from his near death experience I hope he'll be a whole lot less hot headed and just be cool like g1 jazz. As that's also suggested in premium movie (1) jazz's toy bio.

Sorry I'm a toy nut. Looking at this "movie news" the only thing I care about are what transformers are going to be in it to sell beautiful toys. A guilty pleasure.

He needs to stay dead. For two reasons. 1. His lines were TERRIBLE in the first movie. 2. It shows that deaths in the movies mean basically NOTHING.

Maybe Jazz isn't back, but the VA had a clause in his contract for movie 1 that he would be paid for the sequels ( much like Jack Nicholson in the first Batman movie ) so they decided to give him a human role. The character he plays just happens to drive a Solstice.

Reading all this stuff about death having meaning and the seriousness of war leads me to think I must have watched a diffferent movie than some other people. In a movie with the peeing sceen, happy time, and camp the old Batman TV series wouldn't touch I can't figure out where people get this serious meaningful stuff like it was Saving Private Rhyan.

Okay yea if the death of Jazz was like the death of Dinobot then yea you would have a reason to be all upset. When the death of Jazz was just they left Megatron on ice for too long and needed a way to make him look all tough the death was almost totally meaningless.

Plus serious meaningful my butt. Look if the Decepticons were really this race of warriors from beyond the stars then we should have had more good guys buy the dirt nap at the end of the movie rather than just no name extras getting killed. You want something serious then it's not going to be almost all the Decepticons die, the Autobots only lose one bot, and the human special forces should have faired even worse than the Cons.