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Transformers Revenge of the Fallen will not feature triple changers

Posted on 09-22-2008 at 05:01 PM by Sol Fury RSS Feeds
Transformers Revenge of the Fallen will not feature triple changers RobertoOrci
Transformers Revenge of the Fallen writer Roberto Orci answers more of your questions! In this latest batch of answers, he confirms that there are no triple changers in Transformers 2 unless you count combiners. In his own words:

Talked about it. Does a combiner count? We figure a triple changer is a good idea for part 3.

Also covered in this round of questions - it is "certainly possible" that we will see more bickering between Megatron and Starscream, there will be "some more emphasis on the Transformers", and Roberto and fellow writers Alex Kurtzman and Ehren Kruger have "talked about" the possibility of Optimus Prime combining with another robot or even his trailer.

Also, for all of you who have been trying to guess what Soundwave will turn into, when asked if anyone had been correct on their guess of Soundwave's alternate mode, Roberto's response was:

I don't think so, but I haven't seen all the guesses.


If you have a question that you would like to ask, you may do so in the Welcome Mr Roberto Orci you may ask him questions thread on our 2005 Boards!
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Sol Fury:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-...angers-165854/

Roberto Orci confirms that triple changers will not be coming out to play in Revenge of the Fallen.

Also covered is the possibility of more Megatron / Starscream interaction, Optimus getting a super mode, and so far, none of the guesses that Roberto is aware of are correct for Soundwave's alternate mode.
DarkKnightPrime:
I wish they would come out and tell us the characters and thier altmodes, just like they did in the last one.
Autobot Spike:
Optimus and Jetfire (as an SR-71)



'nuff said.

Superpants Prime for TF2: ROTF

-A.S.
Ravenxl7:
It would have been interesting to have a triple-changer in the movie, but there's still a chance of getting one in the third movie. More Megatron and Starscream interaction isn't surprising at all, and I would have been surprised if they hadn't at some point disscussed the possibility of Prime combining with something (either his trailer or another Autobot). Does that mean that he will do that in this movie, maybe, maybe not, we'll just have to wait and see. It's sad, most of this thread will more than likely be people overreacting thinking this is a confirmation that Prime will combine with a fellow Autobot and/or his trailer, just like the last thread with people overreacting to the comment of them at one point discussing the possibility of Megs turning into Galvatron.
Lance Halberd:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autobot Spike View Post
Optimus and Jetfire (as an SR-71)



'nuff said.

Superpants Prime for TF2: ROTF

-A.S.
That's either one tiny-ass jet or one huge-ass truck.
Switch625:
NO SUPER MODES FOR OPTIMUS! I hated it in Energon and Cybertron and I hate it now. He's Optimus Prime for crying out loud. You don't see Superman putting on Batman's utility belt and driving around in the Batmobile, do you??
reave:
Agreed. A trailer would be cool, as either a weapons base, or just something he hooked up to haul stuff around, but no super-merging-robot-force poop.
samtheman:
Score my question was on the front page!
Soundwave84:
I am glad we are not getting any triple changers. I dont know how well they would fit in the movie maybe the third one but that is a maybe. I want to know who is all in the movie and there alt modes
Wheeljack_Prime:
I'd prefer if if the trailer became a separate bot by itself.
PrimePower04:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundwave84 View Post
I am glad we are not getting any triple changers. I dont know how well they would fit in the movie maybe the third one but that is a maybe. I want to know who is all in the movie and there alt modes


I second this....im tired of this hiding bull shit...just keep secret the script and events but just tell us the characters already!
CryoPrime:
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Originally Posted by samtheman View Post
Score my question was on the front page!
The Triple-changer one was mine.... check his quote in the thread. Which one was yours?
Sledgehammer:
Combining trailer as in Powermaster Op? I'd buy that for a dollar. No triple-changers? No worries there, keep 'em for pt.3. Big-arsed combiners? Hell yeah, x10 to the power of lots.
thefinaldoom:
I knew they were going to make 3 movies.I hope the triple changer is Blitzwing.
Autobot Spike:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Halberd View Post
That's either one tiny-ass jet or one huge-ass truck.
well yes.. it's true. it was a quick photoshop exercise... for illustration purposes only.. heheh so imagine a HUGE ass plane combining with optimus prime..... now THAT's big-bot goodness for fighting devastator and his ilk.

combiners pretty much confirmed by Orci in that statement about triple-changers.



-A.S.
samtheman:
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Originally Posted by CryoPrime View Post
The Triple-changer one was mine.... check his quote in the thread. Which one was yours?
Mine was the one about if anyone guessed what Soundwaves alt-mode is... someone else asked about a leaked treatment where he was a military sound cannon and Orci said "you could be right". I hope so.
younghotrod7:
hopefully this is dis info
Soundwave.ca:
Was there any rumors of triple changers to begin with?
Joe1:
i thought blitzwing would be nice, and astrotrain even better, but i would prefer a combiner over a triple changer any day. a astrotrain vs jetfire fight would be cool tho.
Bumblethumper:
I think doing a realistic version of the typical Blitzwing-style triple changer with 2 realistic earth vehicle modes would be too tall an order, but the recent Megatron design could work as a triple-changer.

I can see it working where one or more modes is a cybertronian. It could also work for something like Snapdragon, like where one alt mode is earth based and the other alt is a robotic dinosaur/beast mode. Other than that, I think they'd have great difficulty pulling it off, making it look plausible, and the toy would be probably be a disappointment. There's more leeway for this sort of thing in a cartoon.

As for the Optimus combiner thing, I'm down with a Powermaster Prime style combining trailer, but the 2 robot combiner mode idea has always been a bit gay.
Optimatron:
ehhhh I think the idea of Prime combining with another transformer is freakin' stupid. Combining with his trailer ehhh still some A/E/C lame crap...but not as bad as combining with another character. OP should transform his trailer into a battle station or parts of it into a bigass gun or something..maybe open it up and get out a big ass gun....

I think Prime connecting with another character is like saying he can't be a badass on his own and have always thought it's a smack in the face to the character. Always have
Teh-Shewz:
I kinda want to c prime combine with his trailer.
Sound wave hasss to be the SR71, the engines would be great for his shoulder cannon.
samtheman:
Quote:
Originally Posted by teh-shewz View Post
i kinda want to c prime combine with his trailer.
Sound wave hasss to be the sr71, the engines would be great for his shoulder cannon.
tftm =/= g1
Rodimus Mike:
I really would love for Prime to get a trailer,but not combine with it,or any others for
that matter.As bad a** as Prime was in 1 he don't need it.But as for other combiners
in ROTF I would love them to do Superion or Defensor to fight Devastator.And who knows
they may be in the movie,as we don't know the full character line-up.
AntiGod:
Prime combined with his trailer? Powermaster Optimus Prime!!!!
Dropshot:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundwave.ca View Post
Was there any rumors of triple changers to begin with?
I think it refers to the possibility of Megatron retaining his jet mode, besides his already shown tank mode. SO this means he will only be a tank, and his boosters are for extra propulsion.
Ruination04:
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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 View Post
It would have been interesting to have a triple-changer in the movie, but there's still a chance of getting one in the third movie. More Megatron and Starscream interaction isn't surprising at all, and I would have been surprised if they hadn't at some point disscussed the possibility of Prime combining with something (either his trailer or another Autobot). Does that mean that he will do that in this movie, maybe, maybe not, we'll just have to wait and see. It's sad, most of this thread will more than likely be people overreacting thinking this is a confirmation that Prime will combine with a fellow Autobot and/or his trailer, just like the last thread with people overreacting to the comment of them at one point discussing the possibility of Megs turning into Galvatron.

You know...at thi point, I don't care who turns into what or anything. When I first found out that the movie wasn't gonna be G1, I hated it! But once I saw the movie I loved it. I am gonna trust the film makers to do what is best for the movie and leave it at that. I'm sure it will be good. Do I want Prime to combine with someone? Not really, but if he does, I think it will done with a lot of
Autobot Spike:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumblethumper View Post
As for the Optimus combiner thing, I'm down with a Powermaster Prime style combining trailer, but the 2 robot combiner mode idea has always been a bit gay.
personally, i doubt prime could handle devastator on his own. not if Dev is gonna be made up of seven robots.. so... seven robots isn't gay... but two robots is?

We ARE talking Optimus Prime and Jetfire.
That's like saying wolverine combined with batman isn't an awesome thing to imagine in action



so what's the harm? Ops is all like "holy shit! that bad mo-fo is too much for us! Jetfire! we need to combine our strength!" and Jetfire's all like "Yeah Optimus! I'm on it! time to combine forces and take this bastard DOWN!!!"

well... anyway i think it would be cool if both characters were treated as bad-ass in their own right.. and became even MORE bad-ass together. like a centaur... or a griffin.... or a Reeses cup.

if reeses had been all like " yeah man, i like peanut butter on celery a whole lot but... peanut butter and chocolate? Chocolate is so bad-ass already, combining it with peanut butter would just be gay."

then the badassery of the "cup" would never have been realised.

just a thought.

-A.S.
Chaos Prime:
Oh Jeez. Haha! I really had to chuckle at this interview.
I love how Orci suggested that their was bickering between Megatron and Starscream in the first movie. Obviously he never watched his own film.
'Some' more emphasis on the Transformers? Don't get me wrong I love watching a two hour movie about Transformers, and end up having 90% of the film be about the humans. So what's his definition of more? 15 minutes of actual Transformers instead of 10 this time?
And personally, I think I've seen enough of Optimus Prime combining with another Transformer to achieve, 'Super ultimate, anime mode' Super modes are boring now.
Optimus Prime can kick ass by himself thank you very much.
I don't even know why I waste my time reading these things.
He's teasing everyone deliberately, and probably enjoying every minute of it too.
Grrr.
Autobot Spike:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos Prime View Post
Oh Jeez. Haha! I really had to chuckle at this interview.
I love how Orci suggested that their was bickering between Megatron and Starscream in the first movie. Obviously he never watched his own film.
'Some' more emphasis on the Transformers? Don't get me wrong I love watching a two hour movie about Transformers, and end up having 90% of the film be about the humans. So what's his definition of more? 15 minutes of actual Transformers instead of 10 this time?
And personally, I think I've seen enough of Optimus Prime combining with another Transformer to achieve, 'Super ultimate, anime mode' Super modes are boring now.
Optimus Prime can kick ass by himself thank you very much.
I don't even know why I waste my time reading these things.
He's teasing everyone deliberately, and probably enjoying every minute of it too.
Grrr.
They didn't use my screenplay either...

-A.S.
Optimatron:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autobot Spike View Post
personally, i doubt prime could handle devastator on his own. not if Dev is gonna be made up of seven robots.. so... seven robots isn't gay... but two robots is?







-A.S.

First off Devestator is an original character and there were specific Gestalt teams..that was always the cool thing about it...they were the only ones who could do it...it made them special...then when Energon came around everyone and their brother was combining...I honestly think it made it the ability cheap...not to mention it really cheapened the significance of the character...and cheapened their ability to be a threat in my mind.....It was like saying...ohhh OP is a badass...but not that badass..he has to depend on the combining ability to face any sort of adversity. Prime is supposed to be able to pull through adversity and find ways to overcome a challenge...if he can't then why the fuck is he the leader?? Thats what leaders do. I honestly think they need to keep the characters and abilities as close to G1 as possible...A/E/C was just too far out there imo.

On a second note...if you don't think Prime can handle Devestator on his own, check out the original mini-series from IDW when Transformers came back on the comic scene....In issue 5...Prime charges Devy and blows his headoff.
Rodimus Primal:
I'm okay with there being no triple changers although it would be cool if Megatron kept his jet mode and got a tank mode as well.

With Devestator I think that if they want to get away with not calling the combined Constructicons Devestator, they should call him Demolisher. It would make more sense that way IMHO.
mondo:
^ No way. If he can't be called Devastator,the next best thing would be Constructicon, maybe. I dont think fans will like it if he was called Demolisher. For the toy he would be called Devastator, like Brawl was named Brawl for his toys. Stupid misnamed by the movie makers messed everything up.
eyeballkid:
They could pull off a scene of prime with a trailer if they really wanted too.
Autobot Spike:
wow... lots of animosity for combining Ops. if combining with a fellow autobot to gain more power isn't overcoming adversity, then i dunno what is. i grew up with Optimus Prime and the other 'bots and the 'cons. every time things get crazy, they come up with some nutty idea that "just might work". so... imagine that Jetfire has battle armour... and he loans it to ops... that'd be ok, right? cause then Optimus could fly.. right? so... i dunno.. i see this as a "pilot to co-pilot" thing... Ops in the driver's seat, and Jetfire acting as his navigator/gunner/ whatever... of course.. then again.... maybe they'd better not. i dunno. i like to remind everyone that a big part of the target audience has been exposed to A/E/C. to some it is the first iteration of transformers. just like to some, Animated will be their first. it would be foolish for Hasbro, Bay, and Orci, and everyone else not to pay homage to these ideas and only look to G1 for inspiration. if you'd grown up with multiple types of robot combination i'm sure it would seem perfectly normal and fine.. and if Prime had always joined with another bot when things got super nutty, then... well that would be no big deal to you. just sayin.. also... Peanut butter cup.
'nuff said.

cup.

-A.S.
Railguard:
Well some of the movie formers were a little flimsy when they were transformed. Its not really a surprise to me.
Easterling Capt:
Quote:
Prime is supposed to be able to pull through adversity and find ways to overcome a challenge...if he can't then why the fuck is he the leader?? Thats what leaders do. I honestly think they need to keep the characters and abilities as close to G1 as possible...A/E/C was just too far out there imo
There is more to a leader then just his ability to fight.

and I really dont care whats writen in IDW or any other comic...a single robot even Megs and Prime would have an almost impossible mission to defet a combined form of a group. That is basic logic. See the G1 epiosode Masqurade were 5 bots fire EVERYTHING (including Prime) at Menasor and all Menasor say is...... "menasor not laugh".

Everybody needs a bit of extra powere here and there.
Autobot 47:
What would Prime say?

"Calm down, calm down. You know Bay is going to spread false information...."

Nevertheless an interesting idea...
 
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