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Michael Bay Says Transformers 4 Will Be Shorter

Posted on 04-21-2013 at 10:57 AM by SilverOptimus under Transformers Movie
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Entertainment News Website Canoe has posted an interview with director Michael Bay regarding his upcoming movie Transformers 4. There isn't much detail, however the director revealed that Transformers 4 will be shorter than the previous Transformers movies with a run time of 2 hours and 7 minutes.

The original article is in french but 2005 Boards Member TylerMirage translated the quote with Google Translate:

"Two hours 7 minutes, which I think is a good formula, which gives enough room to maneuver."

Shooting begins in five weeks in Hong Kong and will continue to other places in China, Detroit and Chicago.

What do you think of this decision? Good Or Bad? Share your thought with fellow members on the thread associated with this news post.
Views: 10,094 / Credit: TylerMirage of the 2005 Boards!
Yggdrasil
I always said that a TF movie can benefit a lot from a shorter running time.

Thing is if you have the same ammount of robot action as in say DOTM but if you cut out all the useless human crap that served no purpose you effectively have to wait less between the robot scenes thus creating an illusion of robots having more screen time.
FoC Grimlock
That will make a few people happy.
FanimusMaximus
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Originally Posted by TylerMirage View Post
I'm completely okay with this shorter runtime. It may mean, like, 10% less robot screentime, but that probably means 10% less human screentime too. I'm all for it if it means a tighter film, but I'll wait and see if this 'promise' holds true.
It it's anything like the last three movies, it gonna 50% less Robot Screen time and 15% less Human Screen time.
TylerMirage
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Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
I always said that a TF movie can benefit a lot from a shorter running time.

Thing is if you have the same ammount of robot action as in say DOTM but if you cut out all the useless human crap that served no purpose you effectively have to wait less between the robot scenes thus creating an illusion of robots having more screen time.
Completely agreed. It's when you have the robot-centric scenes sandwiched between countless human scenes or unnecessary human filler, that's what makes it seem worse than it actually is.

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Originally Posted by FanimusMaximus View Post
It it's anything like the last three movies, it gonna 50% less Robot Screen time and 15% less Human Screen time.
I'll take it.

And all-in-all, the robots tend to get more screentime/focus/dialogue as the films go on. Sure, there are some that get less, or those who fluctuate (Ironhide, Ratchet, Megatron), but there are plenty of characters who get more with each new movie or have new characters that get a (relatively) hefty chunk of screentime. It's just that they keep cramming more and more robots into the movie, meaning suddenly there's more characters trying to share scenes.
jackgaughan
I like the sound of this, but this could mean more human shtick, or less robot shenanigans, But if it's shorter that might mean the plot will be more focused.
Smashs
I'm good with this. As much as I loved the movies, they were a bit long and could have easily trimmed some of the human time.
ErbFan28
Sounds reasonable
Atomatron
i need my 20 min sequence of Kup and Springer smoking up (not a cygar) and telling crass jokes about marky marks daughter!!! bonus dvd scene please!!!
JohnRedcorn
I remember when movies used to be 90 minutes long
YoungPrime
..................I'm not paying to see this.
FMA1987
I think this is a good idea I think the DOTM was worth it because of how epic it was but still you can just cut out a lot of the pointless scenes and be more plot focused will help a lot
AutoBobby
Not really sure how you can give an exact time when you haven't even started filming yet.

I guess if he needs some fill-in time he can just add more slow motion shots.
darkunor
It probably will be the best thing about TF4!
Oracle_Aesir
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Originally Posted by YoungPrime View Post
..................I'm not paying to see this.
Good for you...I will!
st.ranger
There will be a less action, but still same amount of toilet humour.
fallen_revenge
He could have added an extra fight scene in those extra 20 minutes the other movie seem to adopt, but I hope the movie at least feels long. Also, that it includes everything we need to know in that time spam.
bman29
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Originally Posted by Oracle_Aesir View Post
Good for you...I will!
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Originally Posted by st.ranger View Post
There will be a less action, but still same amount of toilet humour.
Everybody poops.
fallen_revenge
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Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
I always said that a TF movie can benefit a lot from a shorter running time.

Thing is if you have the same ammount of robot action as in say DOTM but if you cut out all the useless human crap that served no purpose you effectively have to wait less between the robot scenes thus creating an illusion of robots having more screen time.
This.
WWELORD
I done thing it will make a difference it could be 2 hours and 7 minutes or 2 hours and 30minutes it's still over 2 hours
ngnikolaos
"We realized our past TF movies were 2 hours of crappy humour and 1 hour of bot action. We decided to shorten it to 2 hours of crappy humour and 7 minutes of bot action. We are certain that the fans will be very happy with this decision. Also, suck our c*&ks while you're at it."
Gingerchris
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Originally Posted by AutoBobby View Post
Not really sure how you can give an exact time when you haven't even started filming yet
I was thinking this myself. I'd much rather a film end up at a final running time naturally based on how the story turns out than deciding it's going to be around a set time beforehand. I mean I know some films after all the footage is in are trimmed down to fit within a certain running time, but this isn't really that kind of film and Bay is unlikely to let himself be so constrained should it come down to it.
No doubt a lot of TF4 will have already been timed out using the script and pre-vis and so on as a general guide, but I hope in the end the final running time is determined by what's good for the story and overall movie rather than anything else. If Bay did end up with a fantastic cut of TF4 and it clocked in at two and a half hours, I'd be disappointed if he then started trimming stuff out just to fit into a running time he'd announced beforehand. That's all an unlikely scenario, but yunno.

After all is said and done though, I'm all for a shorter running time. The first three movies really dragged in places. I just hope to get to that running time Bay doesn't omit valuable robot stuff in favour of pointless comedic human stuff.
transformervic1
Sounds great. As much as I love these films, they drag like crazy,(none more so than Dark Of The Moon, however).
Transbot90210
I remember when the 2H+ movie length was reserved for epic STORIES and I stress story not 'splotions. Now a days every movie is over 2 hours and you can easily cut 30min+ off of most of them.

Seeing TF4 clock is close to 2H is actually good news. Considering that they are changing up the story and I assume the bots are going to look way different with a completely new aesthetic (Hasbro needs to sell toys). I actually have hope for this trilogy.
QLRformer
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Originally Posted by AutoBobby View Post
Not really sure how you can give an exact time when you haven't even started filming yet.
This. It'll probably be extended when filming actually starts.
Aeronnz
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Originally Posted by JohnRedcorn View Post
I remember when movies used to be 90 minutes long
Good times...
daitarn red
mr bay is crazy
uruseiranma
If Bay isn't being pressured to shoot this in 3D, I could see how it could be shorter:

Since he doesn't need to slo-mo a number of effects shots, a lot of those scenes will just whiz by.
Ash from Carolina
I think shorter is a good way to go. It seems like the previous films sometimes lost their focus with side trip that went nowhere, there were also scenes that instead of contributing to story felt like they were filler to pad out the run length. Yes there are some movies where a long film works, but for action films shorter just seems better.

Although over 2 hours still seems too long but at least it's a step in the right direction. Save all the extra stuff for the home release of the movie.
Prime Jetscream
This can be good or bad.
Hopefully it means more 'bot screentime and plot focus.
Chaos Prime
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Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
I always said that a TF movie can benefit a lot from a shorter running time.

Thing is if you have the same ammount of robot action as in say DOTM but if you cut out all the useless human crap that served no purpose you effectively have to wait less between the robot scenes thus creating an illusion of robots having more screen time.
Pretty much this.
Nightrain
Michael Bay is full of shit. He will find a way to tack on extra half hour of actors doing shit no one cares about. Or comedy scenes aimed at the trash in the audience.
Leonis Prime
Hallelujah!

So sick of the super long run times of these films.

Ps. Just watched the 86 movie and it's shorter run time.
Bumblethumper
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Originally Posted by Nightrain View Post
Michael Bay is full of shit. He will find a way to tack on extra half hour of actors doing shit no one cares about. Or comedy scenes aimed at the trash in the audience.
true enough. They probably timed out the script at two hours, but when it comes to the shoot Bay'll probably have the actors improvise a lot of nonsense that he thinks is hilarious.
MrFX
The length of the film doesn't matter as much as the quality of the material put into it. You can have a great 1hr 40 minute movie, or a 1hr 40 minute turd.
Nightrain
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The length of the film doesn't matter as much as the quality of the material put into it. You can have a great 1hr 40 minute movie, or a 1hr 40 minute turd.
I think even a great movie can reach a natural viewing limit and going over only hurts it.
Lazerwave
I don't mind.

As long as we see lots of new robots.

I'm predicting there will be at least 5 Autobots returning.
TFW10
I don't think Bay could do it, I can't see it happening.

He stretches the movie out with human nonsense, but if he can I'll be very happy.
Puck Hockey
Cool.
Autovolt 127
I'm sure what we'll be loosing out of this short run time will be either the plot or a decent conclusion to the final battle.
ISleepNow
Girl's ass,

,

The End
Megatron1
I want Megatron to come back as Galvatron. As long as that happens, I'll be happy.
Omegax80
Don't even think it matters, as long as it is a good film. Why the running time is even worth a discussion is beyond me.
Cyber Star
I would love to know how they got to that number. Seems they have a lot planned already.
MV95
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Originally Posted by ngnikolaos View Post
Also, suck our c*&ks while you're at it."
Well that was completely unnecessary.
Paarthurnax
I wonder if anybody trashes Transformers as much as the Transformers fans!?!? I mean, you come to a site where people are supposed to love Transformers but all you see is negativity & hate.

I don't think replies from members should be allowed in the movie forum anymore. I like reading the news but the replies just piss me off. Nothin good to say but they still refuse to STFU.
HoneyPrime
I'm perfectly okay with this as long as it means less human screen time. If it means less robot time.....
Ash from Carolina
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Originally Posted by Omegax80 View Post
Don't even think it matters, as long as it is a good film. Why the running time is even worth a discussion is beyond me.
Because run time can be a factor in if people perceive a film to be good or not. Take Peter Jackson's King Kong. As a shorter film it might have been a good movie, but critics seemed to agree that a big fault of the film was that it was too long and tried to put in too much that the movie really didn't need.

Even your favorite films could be ruined if they were made too long. I love Blazing Saddles but if it was stretched out into a 3 hour film it wouldn't be as fun or as funny. Like books some stories work as big sweeping epics while others work better as short stories.
Omegax80
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Originally Posted by Paarthurnax View Post
I wonder if anybody trashes Transformers as much as the Transformers fans!?!? I mean, you come to a site where people are supposed to love Transformers but all you see is negativity & hate.

I don't think replies from members should be allowed in the movie forum anymore. I like reading the news but the replies just piss me off. Nothin good to say but they still refuse to STFU.
Welcome to the Internet. Enjoy your stay. Tip your waiters on the way out.
jop
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Originally Posted by Paarthurnax View Post
I don't think replies from members should be allowed in the movie forum anymore.
Then who would post in the forum?

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