TFW2005 Reviews MP11 Masterpiece Starscream V2
Read on to check out the review of the most notorious Seeker, now in Masterpiece 2.0 form!
MP11 Masterpiece Starscream V2 Review
MP11 Masterpiece Starscream V2 Review Part I - Fighter Mode - Introduction & fighter mode
In 2011 we learned that TakaraTomy would be redoing a notorious Decepticon in the Transformers Masterpiece line, Starscream! The original MP3 Masterpiece Starscream release had a controversial debut. While initially designed by Kobayashi Hironori, it was revised by none other than Kawamori Shoji(of Macross fame). Kawamori himself was no stranger to Transformers as he had worked on the Diaclone line, and some of the Diaclone toys were later repainted for the Transformers line.
Kawamori's revision of Kobayashi's original design could be seen as drastic to some. The F-15 alt mode adopted CFT(Conformal Fuel Tanks) which hid the robot mode parts, and 2 guns were molded on the front of the CFT's. The resulting look was that of a single seat F-15E Strike Eagle, instead of the F-15C that Kobayashi's original design resembled. Also added were optional Sidewinder missles mounted on rails. While fighter mode was seen as an improvement by some, the revised robot mode was shockingly different. Kobayashi's original design in robot mode resembled Starscream from the G1 cartoon. Kawamori went for another route, using skinnier legs with big chunks of the CFT's now resembling sword scabbards(but without swords).
MP3 Starscream ended up being rather challenging to stand in robot mode, and the folding hinges near the wings were a source of concern. Breakages were reported on the 1st release and for some of the subsequent repaints. It wasn't at all like MP1 Convoy where quality control all around was superb. With MP3 you had to be more careful when posing and transforming.
Since the release of MP3 Starscream, fans have often wondered, "why did Takara even let Kawamori change the MP3 design?". The legs were not only limited in mobility, and hard to stand, but the iconic look that Kobayashi interpreted was gone. For some fans, this was rectified with the release of iGear's KO seekers which do away with the "hip kibble" and have the lower half of the CFT's molded as part of the lower leg. However, some fans wanted to see something new, something...official. Something that went beyond just making alterations to a pre-existing mold.
Enter MP11 Masterpiece Starscream V2. MP11 is likened to a revised version of Kobayashi's original design, without Kawamori's input/revisions. Add in coronation gear, like an articulated cape, and finally mold/paint MP Starscream in more G1-esque colors, and you have MP Starscream V2. To many fans, G1 Starscream was neither white nor green, he was grey. To date, this is the only MP Starscream molded in grey. It may not be completely cartoon accurate, but it's a lot closer to the cartoon than MP3 ever was. The color palette reminds me a lot of the one used on Henkei Starscream.
One glaring omission is the lack of a display stand. This is disappointing. I suppose the trade-off was the coronation gear. Understandable, but being that each previous MP Starscream release came with a stand, I wish this came with one too.
The fighter mode is sleeker, since it's based on an F-15C Eagle, and lacks CFT's. The drawback is that the robot mode parts are not hidden from the side.
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The legs are not as streamlined with the underside(when viewed from the side) as MP3, but at the same time, MP11 does not look as "fat" as MP3 in fighter mode. MP11's fighter mode looks more toyetic but it doesn't really bother me. The underside doesn't stick out as bad as Classics Starscream and the 1st movie/HFTD leader Starscreams.
The biggest thing I noticed was the lack of gaps. MP3 and some of the later repaints of it had gaps, especially where the windscreen meets the rest of the canopy, resulting in a crooked nose look. MP11 does not have that problem.
MP11 has a wealth of panel lines scribed in but there is no weathering, no ink washes applied. It's a shame too, since the toy is predominantly molded in a grey plastic, and without the lines inked in, this just results in an even more toyetic appearance. I've read some comments from members who state that the lack of panel lines enhances the cartoon-based appearance, but to me, it just looks somewhat cheap without inked-in lines. This isn't a dark plastic like that used on Striker Optimus Prime, this is the grey plastic that fans usually complain about seeing on Hasbro releases. Inking in the panel lines brings out a lot of the subtle detail that otherwise wouldn't be seen well. For example, one of the reasons I dug my MP3 Walmart release was because the lines were inked in. Looked so detailed.
What I did like(and was not expecting), was that the painted blue parts have a metallic finish. These parts include the vertical stabilizers(these stabilizers are molded in grey), forearms, and feet.
The holo-pilot is a neat change. He will flop around in the cockpit unless you push him forward.
I dig the inclusion of the holo-pilot since it gives fans something different from Dr. Arkeville. Plus, I dug how holo-pilots were used in the 2007 movie. To begin with, I'm a fan of piloted mecha and I dug the concept behind Diaclone, so I would rather have A pilot figure than none.
The randome is painted grey, however it may be molded in blue. Some paint was scratched off on mine and I did see a darker color underneath. The radar within is painted in a nice metallic silver.
The outer engine intakes can be positioned up or down:
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Oddly enough, a port for the cannon on the F-15C is not molded on the wingroot of MP11.
The airbrake is the same as on MP3, still has a chrome piston:
Unfortunately, the only weapons MP11 comes with aside from the chest missles, are null-rays.
While I definitely like the hinge system which enables them to stay on during transformation to either mode, I wish there were swappable, optional weapons. Something akin to what the original G1 Starscream had would be cool, like swappable bombs/missles.
The engine covers can still be lifted to reveal the PW F100 engine details(actually opening the engine covers is necessary for transformation, as these engine parts are more than meets the eyes!):
The ball jointed engine nozzles don't have as much range of motion as MP3's engine nozzles. Not a big deal but it is something I noticed when handling it.
The landing gear are the same as on MP3, however the nose gear seems to move tighter, and the landing gear bay for the rear is completely different, as the lower legs of MP11 are completely new:
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The rear landing gear seem to stay in place better than before.
Overall, the fit and flushness of parts is good.The horizontal stabilizers don't feel as tight but seem to be made of a much more durable plastic than on MP3. The spine sticks out just a bit but not very noticeable. There are substantially less gaps when compared to MP3. This may not be as detailed, but it is a more solid fighter mode. Also, G1 Starscream was either an F-15A or F-15C(both single seaters), with no CFT's, just by those facts alone, MP11 is a more accurate(by G1 cartoon/toy standards) Masterpiece Starscream than MP3.
There is some heft when picked up. It feels like a more detailed, main-line leader class figure. It does not feel fragile in fighter mode. While the fighter mode is pleasing, MP11 truly shines in another mode...
DISCUSSION: (Jump To This Thread On The Boards)
Shin Densetsu
Shin Densetsu
MP11 Masterpiece Starscream V2 Review Part III MP3 VS MP11 brief showdown & conclusion
MP3 has a crooked nose, MP11 doesn't. An F-15 Eagle with a crooked nose doesn't look right. You can also tell, the crookedness wasn't planned! It's a design flaw on MP3(though not as bad on some releases).
Fighter mode:
This may be up to personal preference. Despite not having inked in panel lines like MP3, MP11 is molded/painted in G1 cartoon colors, and as stated earlier, MP11 lacks the CFT's of MP3, therefore, is a more accurate representation of G1 Starscream. The sleeker look of MP11 helps.
Robot mode:
While MP3 features 2 faces, 1 of which with Starscream's iconic smirk, it also feaures skinnier legs than MP11 and the notorious hip kibble. Meanwhile, MP11 features just 1 face sculpt that means business, a color palette closer to G1, is substantially easier to stand/pose, and is fully compatible with the new coronation gear. MP11 also feels more solid, substantially more durable, not as fragile, and has way better range of motion for the legs(especially since it lacks the hip kibble of MP3).
Fighter mode may boil down to personal preference(some of you may like the F-15C Eagle more than the F-15E Strike Eagle), but MP11 shines in robot mode and is the better figure than MP3. It's more playable, a lot less worrisome to handle, and looks more iconic.
So was MP11 worth buying? I would say yes, however, I would think about it if you already have any incarnation of MP3. If you handle your Transformers a lot and like posing them, MP11 is a good figure to pick up. The latter holds true especially if you found MP3 to be a pain in the ass to transform and pose in robot mode. MP11 is much easier to transform from either mode. It's a lot easier to transform than ROTF Leader Optimus. For example, on ROTF Leader Optimus there are some areas where I would just get stuck for a few minutes...to more. Not so with MP11. I'd even say Alternators/Binaltech Smokescreen was tougher to transform. If you dig alt modes and just leave your Transformers on display most of the time, you might be content with MP3. MP3 arguably only outshines MP11 in fighter mode, mainly due to the CFT's that Kawamori added on to disguise the robot mode parts, and the inclusion of Sidewinder missles. Another noticeable aspect is the fact that MP3 has panel lines inked in. MP11 has nearly all of the same panel lines scribed in but without being inked in, therefore looks more plain on the surface. While this can be easily rectified with a thin Gundam marker, I'd be remiss to leave that out of the review. However, in every other way, MP11 is the superior figure.
EDIT: warning about Gundam markers:
ONLY USE THE BRUSH MARKERS MEANT FOR PANEL LINES TO INK IN THIS FIGURE, THE REGULARFINE LINE GUNDAM MARKER IS OIL-BASED, TOO THICK AND NOT FORGIVIN. THE BRUSH MARKERS ARE WATER BASED AND EXCESS IS EASILY WIPED OFF.
MP3 has a crooked nose, MP11 doesn't. An F-15 Eagle with a crooked nose doesn't look right. You can also tell, the crookedness wasn't planned! It's a design flaw on MP3(though not as bad on some releases).
Fighter mode:
This may be up to personal preference. Despite not having inked in panel lines like MP3, MP11 is molded/painted in G1 cartoon colors, and as stated earlier, MP11 lacks the CFT's of MP3, therefore, is a more accurate representation of G1 Starscream. The sleeker look of MP11 helps.
Robot mode:
While MP3 features 2 faces, 1 of which with Starscream's iconic smirk, it also feaures skinnier legs than MP11 and the notorious hip kibble. Meanwhile, MP11 features just 1 face sculpt that means business, a color palette closer to G1, is substantially easier to stand/pose, and is fully compatible with the new coronation gear. MP11 also feels more solid, substantially more durable, not as fragile, and has way better range of motion for the legs(especially since it lacks the hip kibble of MP3).
Fighter mode may boil down to personal preference(some of you may like the F-15C Eagle more than the F-15E Strike Eagle), but MP11 shines in robot mode and is the better figure than MP3. It's more playable, a lot less worrisome to handle, and looks more iconic.
So was MP11 worth buying? I would say yes, however, I would think about it if you already have any incarnation of MP3. If you handle your Transformers a lot and like posing them, MP11 is a good figure to pick up. The latter holds true especially if you found MP3 to be a pain in the ass to transform and pose in robot mode. MP11 is much easier to transform from either mode. It's a lot easier to transform than ROTF Leader Optimus. For example, on ROTF Leader Optimus there are some areas where I would just get stuck for a few minutes...to more. Not so with MP11. I'd even say Alternators/Binaltech Smokescreen was tougher to transform. If you dig alt modes and just leave your Transformers on display most of the time, you might be content with MP3. MP3 arguably only outshines MP11 in fighter mode, mainly due to the CFT's that Kawamori added on to disguise the robot mode parts, and the inclusion of Sidewinder missles. Another noticeable aspect is the fact that MP3 has panel lines inked in. MP11 has nearly all of the same panel lines scribed in but without being inked in, therefore looks more plain on the surface. While this can be easily rectified with a thin Gundam marker, I'd be remiss to leave that out of the review. However, in every other way, MP11 is the superior figure.
EDIT: warning about Gundam markers:
ONLY USE THE BRUSH MARKERS MEANT FOR PANEL LINES TO INK IN THIS FIGURE, THE REGULARFINE LINE GUNDAM MARKER IS OIL-BASED, TOO THICK AND NOT FORGIVIN. THE BRUSH MARKERS ARE WATER BASED AND EXCESS IS EASILY WIPED OFF.
dkr7
very nice review, only one thing, pull those intakes forward 
can't wait to get mine
can't wait to get mine
Sentinel
Very nice review. Unfortunately for me, I am a Masterpiece completist and I am sure that despite the fact I fully intended to skip this "redundant" version of SS, I am sure I will be picking it up, due in no small part to your review. Dammit... 
That more accuarate grey really does look awesome, and the redesigned head is much better than the MP-03 version.
That more accuarate grey really does look awesome, and the redesigned head is much better than the MP-03 version.
nelodiavolo
I'm a HUGE SS fan, and I planned to skip this version since I have MP Walmart SS w/coronation kit, Ghost SS, MP-03 "GreenScream", and Hasbro Skywarp. I'm up to my eyes in MP seekers! But I HAD to look at this review. Its decided, I am getting this....
thanks!
thanks!
Shin Densetsu
No problem man.
I have Walmart Starscream, Ghostscream, Thundercracker, and Walmart Skywarp, and I'm still glad I picked MP11 up.
I started inking mine in with a Gundam thin black marker too.
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Originally Posted by nelodiavolo  I'm a HUGE SS fan, and I planned to skip this version since I have MP Walmart SS w/coronation kit, Ghost SS, MP-03 "GreenScream", and Hasbro Skywarp. I'm up to my eyes in MP seekers! But I HAD to look at this review. Its decided, I am getting this.... thanks! |
I have Walmart Starscream, Ghostscream, Thundercracker, and Walmart Skywarp, and I'm still glad I picked MP11 up.
I started inking mine in with a Gundam thin black marker too.
adambman
Mind: read.
Review: informative.
Haha, well done Shin - this is something I've been considering picking up and your review certainly tips me more to the affirmative. Or more of a priority at least lol; I really want to get behind the now dubbed MP 2.0 line, adn unlike MP-10, which I also want, this would easily fit in my Pile of Loot for the budget limit. I should make a move either way as soon as BBTS get my TCC Runabout in. Then there's a Unicron to consider and at least one United Stepper down the line - the latter can wait.
With that much at least in mind perhaps my intent to get MP-11 sounds like a foregone conclusion haha. Really glad you reviewed it next to the Hasbro deco, I wonder if this will help cement fans' decisions to buy or not respectively or change more minds either way. What I liek about the figure, to name a few things, is that it is a cleaner figure overall; I like resourceful touches such as the engine area components being used in the transformation, the obvious hip kibble fix and more to my eye how good it is that the air intake fairings are an example of cleaning things up just by addressing some fiddly or fragile play elements instead of dumbing the transformation down.
The deco is also clean and to the point. Perhaps a large block of grey to some but it lets the sculpted details speak for themselves. The dominance of one colour reminds me of some comments made over United Grapple - too much yellow in his case. To which I thought that while this may be true for some while a figure's under the spotlight, that sort of thing tends to make them sit well visually within a collection of related figures. I suspect the same will be true for those who can imagine or indeed collect a good number of upcoming and as yet unforseen Masterpiece releases. That is, if this Starscream looks too grey on his own, there should be some more seekers along before too long to amend that.
Review: informative.
Haha, well done Shin - this is something I've been considering picking up and your review certainly tips me more to the affirmative. Or more of a priority at least lol; I really want to get behind the now dubbed MP 2.0 line, adn unlike MP-10, which I also want, this would easily fit in my Pile of Loot for the budget limit. I should make a move either way as soon as BBTS get my TCC Runabout in. Then there's a Unicron to consider and at least one United Stepper down the line - the latter can wait.
With that much at least in mind perhaps my intent to get MP-11 sounds like a foregone conclusion haha. Really glad you reviewed it next to the Hasbro deco, I wonder if this will help cement fans' decisions to buy or not respectively or change more minds either way. What I liek about the figure, to name a few things, is that it is a cleaner figure overall; I like resourceful touches such as the engine area components being used in the transformation, the obvious hip kibble fix and more to my eye how good it is that the air intake fairings are an example of cleaning things up just by addressing some fiddly or fragile play elements instead of dumbing the transformation down.
The deco is also clean and to the point. Perhaps a large block of grey to some but it lets the sculpted details speak for themselves. The dominance of one colour reminds me of some comments made over United Grapple - too much yellow in his case. To which I thought that while this may be true for some while a figure's under the spotlight, that sort of thing tends to make them sit well visually within a collection of related figures. I suspect the same will be true for those who can imagine or indeed collect a good number of upcoming and as yet unforseen Masterpiece releases. That is, if this Starscream looks too grey on his own, there should be some more seekers along before too long to amend that.
[Wing_Saber-X]
Great review, Shin! Pics are magnificent and really shows what this MP release is all about! 
Good news: My supplier mentioned April 18th release date here where I'm at!
Good news: My supplier mentioned April 18th release date here where I'm at!
CyberShadow
Excellent review! Its nice to hear an unbiased, in hand review and comparrison. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
EightiesKid
Terrific detailed review. I had planned to pick this up but wanted to see some reviews first after getting burned on MP-9. I'llbe putting in my order very soon. From yourreview it sounds as id theconparison vetween MP-11 and MP-3 is similar to the conparison between MP-10 and MP-1, the newer version is more functional, moreanime accurate, easier to transform and pose. Sounds awesome.
Rijie78
Useful review, thanks. The feet (or rather the lack of ankle articulation) still kill it for me - but I wonder if it's possible to get a balljoint in there; or even to transplant the front of the mp3 lower leg onto mp11..
miscreant
This review just made my toy slush fund $170 lighter.
Thanks, i think?
Thanks, i think?
Incepticon
Fantastically detailed review - thank you so much.
knoted
Awesome review, awesome toy.
The sculpt changes, the colouring....they all just ' work' for me, whereas all previous versions didn't do it for me :/
The sculpt changes, the colouring....they all just ' work' for me, whereas all previous versions didn't do it for me :/
TCJJ
Hmm, it's an interesting one. I was really keen on getting MP-11, but I'm not so sure now. I won't argue that he looks great, but I also think he looks cheap. Sure, I could do a black wash or panel lining (or both) of my own, but the fact that it isn't done from the get-go..... I just can't stand that on a figure that costs so much. It feels like TakaraTomy just took the easy way out.
I also prefer the white to the grey. Personal preference. I don't dislike the grey, I just prefer the white, even though I know some people are of the opposite mindset.
Anyway, it was a good, informative review.
I also prefer the white to the grey. Personal preference. I don't dislike the grey, I just prefer the white, even though I know some people are of the opposite mindset.
Anyway, it was a good, informative review.
webz
I'm torn... I really like my Walmartscream. I actually like the darker arms, the grittier look. The lack of hip kibble is my biggest draw to MP11. The MP3 Starscream just looks more mischievous and evil to me. MP11 looks too much like cartoon Starscream, which brings to mind images of the cartoon's whiny imbecile, rather than the comics' cunning manipulator. This will be on my list next to MP10... I'll pick it up on a sale, but not paying full import price.
Hopefully Takara will redo Megatron as a legitimate design. G1 Megatron never had a decent licensed toy. The skinny, awkward legs, oversized mullet, and unfortunate placing of the trigger made the 80's toy look horrible. Masterpiece Megatron had too many engineering issues, so I refrained from purchasing.
Hopefully Takara will redo Megatron as a legitimate design. G1 Megatron never had a decent licensed toy. The skinny, awkward legs, oversized mullet, and unfortunate placing of the trigger made the 80's toy look horrible. Masterpiece Megatron had too many engineering issues, so I refrained from purchasing.
GUIGUI
You didn't transform the hands right. The back of the hands are supposed to show in jet mode, not the sides. MP3 must have the hands disposed the same way.
Could you show a picture of the below of MP3 and MP1 in jet mode, with the hands transformed correctly?
One last question: can the MP11 Coronation gears be put on the MP3 figure?
You didn't transform the hands right. The back of the hands are supposed to show in jet mode, not the sides. MP3 must have the hands disposed the same way.
Could you show a picture of the below of MP3 and MP1 in jet mode, with the hands transformed correctly?
One last question: can the MP11 Coronation gears be put on the MP3 figure?
DPrime
Great review - I got mine yesterday, and agree with almost all of this.
The only thing I want to point out is the whole panel lines thing. I'm not convinced they should be as obvious as they are on the Walmart version - not at that scale, anyway.
Compare some of the pics Shin took to these:
Yeah, if you walk up to an F-15 the lines might be very obvious, but that's 1/1 scale. In the end, of course, toss it up to personal preference. It does "trick" the eye into thinking it appears more realistic, so I can see why people like them, but I don't think it's actually more accurate.
The only thing I want to point out is the whole panel lines thing. I'm not convinced they should be as obvious as they are on the Walmart version - not at that scale, anyway.
Compare some of the pics Shin took to these:
Yeah, if you walk up to an F-15 the lines might be very obvious, but that's 1/1 scale. In the end, of course, toss it up to personal preference. It does "trick" the eye into thinking it appears more realistic, so I can see why people like them, but I don't think it's actually more accurate.
DJCHARTERS
god that F-15 looks sexy. i dunno i was about to bite on mp-11 untill i saw these pics. i can now see what people meant about the grey colour. i just dunno which ones to get now.
Max Rawhide
Many thanks for a very thorough review. If there was any question I had about this figure, it's now been answered. Am starting to look forward to gettting mine.
Not a big fan of panel lining myself as well. Especially when it's black it looks like a drawing and not of a real thing.
If I'm going to put panellining on MP-11 (got to receive him first) it'll be in a shade of gray slightly darker than the figure. That way the lines will be more realisitic IMO.
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Originally Posted by DPrime The only thing I want to point out is the whole panel lines thing. I'm not convinced they should be as obvious as they are on the Walmart version - not at that scale, anyway. Yeah, if you walk up to an F-15 the lines might be very obvious, but that's 1/1 scale. In the end, of course, toss it up to personal preference. It does "trick" the eye into thinking it appears more realistic, so I can see why people like them, but I don't think it's actually more accurate. |
If I'm going to put panellining on MP-11 (got to receive him first) it'll be in a shade of gray slightly darker than the figure. That way the lines will be more realisitic IMO.
PoweredConvoy
Got mine yesterday and there is no comparison the new one is miles better than the original.
The original looks like a piece of junk compared to it now (I never cared much for the white USA Starscream in particular).
Great review!
Randy
The original looks like a piece of junk compared to it now (I never cared much for the white USA Starscream in particular).
Great review!
Randy
Trailbreaker77
Looks like I'll be owning my 8th Masterpiece seeker soon.
Ratzo99
Hmm. Interesting review. Can't say I agree with the sentiment that this figure is superior in most ways to the previous seeker mold. I mean, I'm all for supporting a new figure, as we don't want Takara to suffer financially, but pretending something is superior, just because it's new seems a little silly to me.
My thoughts on specific points:
• The face/head on MP3 is far superior, it offers two faces, and it's a nicer sculpt. The Mp11's face doesn't look like any Starscream I've ever seen. I think it looks almost feline, and the curved cheeks are a bit feminine.
• The nullrays/weapons on Mp11 being mounted on ugly struts/bars make the jet mode look ridiculous, and if you pop them off the arms in robot mode, you're left with gigantic ball joint ports that stick out like a sore thumb. Also, you don't get the missile option for jet mode, which looked awesome on MP3.
• The crooked nose thing has indeed been an issue on some toys, but I do seem to remember there being a simple solution to this, I can't remember right now, but I'm sure someone will chime in. Anyway, it's barely noticeable, and to point it out as a big flaw, when Mp11 makes the jet-mode look toyish (in comparison), seems a little ridiculous.
• The new feet on Mp11 look pretty bad, first off, he now has gigantic high heels, and secondly, the feet do not sit flush with the ground at any position, so he always looks "uncomfortable".
• The hip kibble on MP3 could always be attached to the lower leg in order to achieve the same look that iGear and Mp11 boasts. Only gripe I have about it, is that the vertical stabilizers are very close to the ground and can make posing a little more limited than when they're on the hips.
• Poseability should be roughly the same, if not BETTER on MP3, my reasoning for this is that Mp11 doesn't appear to have movable hip skirts, and MP3 does. This moveable hip skirting allows the hip joints to swing forward nice and far, but many people are unaware of this. I don't require the display stand to pose my MP3 mold seekers dynamically.
• The jet mode definitely does NOT look "sleeker", Mp11 makes it look like a cheaper toy, with robot mode parts way more visible (which gives a jagged, un-smooth appearance), and the truly awful way that the null rays attach under the wing, and the lack of missile options, and the lack of display stand all equal a vehicle mode that is definitely a step down, any other conclusion seems kind of deluded to me.
I'm sure there are some other things I could compare, but I don't want to be typing all morning. I like elements of this new Mp11, but I wouldn't buy it unless it was on sale by a wide margin. To those who prefer it, I'm happy for you, but let's not attempt to claim the original mold was flawed, when in reality, it was an excellent design that was simply a different "flavor". I do like the solid grey appearance almost as much as the white "walmart" SS, but the mold changes to the jet form kind of ruin its appeal for me, personally.
No disrespect intended by my differing with your points of view. Cheers!
My thoughts on specific points:
• The face/head on MP3 is far superior, it offers two faces, and it's a nicer sculpt. The Mp11's face doesn't look like any Starscream I've ever seen. I think it looks almost feline, and the curved cheeks are a bit feminine.
• The nullrays/weapons on Mp11 being mounted on ugly struts/bars make the jet mode look ridiculous, and if you pop them off the arms in robot mode, you're left with gigantic ball joint ports that stick out like a sore thumb. Also, you don't get the missile option for jet mode, which looked awesome on MP3.
• The crooked nose thing has indeed been an issue on some toys, but I do seem to remember there being a simple solution to this, I can't remember right now, but I'm sure someone will chime in. Anyway, it's barely noticeable, and to point it out as a big flaw, when Mp11 makes the jet-mode look toyish (in comparison), seems a little ridiculous.
• The new feet on Mp11 look pretty bad, first off, he now has gigantic high heels, and secondly, the feet do not sit flush with the ground at any position, so he always looks "uncomfortable".
• The hip kibble on MP3 could always be attached to the lower leg in order to achieve the same look that iGear and Mp11 boasts. Only gripe I have about it, is that the vertical stabilizers are very close to the ground and can make posing a little more limited than when they're on the hips.
• Poseability should be roughly the same, if not BETTER on MP3, my reasoning for this is that Mp11 doesn't appear to have movable hip skirts, and MP3 does. This moveable hip skirting allows the hip joints to swing forward nice and far, but many people are unaware of this. I don't require the display stand to pose my MP3 mold seekers dynamically.
• The jet mode definitely does NOT look "sleeker", Mp11 makes it look like a cheaper toy, with robot mode parts way more visible (which gives a jagged, un-smooth appearance), and the truly awful way that the null rays attach under the wing, and the lack of missile options, and the lack of display stand all equal a vehicle mode that is definitely a step down, any other conclusion seems kind of deluded to me.
I'm sure there are some other things I could compare, but I don't want to be typing all morning. I like elements of this new Mp11, but I wouldn't buy it unless it was on sale by a wide margin. To those who prefer it, I'm happy for you, but let's not attempt to claim the original mold was flawed, when in reality, it was an excellent design that was simply a different "flavor". I do like the solid grey appearance almost as much as the white "walmart" SS, but the mold changes to the jet form kind of ruin its appeal for me, personally.
No disrespect intended by my differing with your points of view. Cheers!
CyberShadow
If there was a like button here, I would be hitting that thing. I totally agree with all points (except that I like the hip scabbards, they add dynamism to the figure and movement, which I love). I thought that the review was excellent because these points were expressed as opinions, rather than 'this one is definately better than the previous version which is now horrible' and that's what I look for in a review. That said, put me down as another devoted fan of the original version who simply prefers it.
To me, copying the limitations of the 80's animation (flat colours because frames were hand drawn, for example) or 80's engineering (dropping the CFTs and exposing the robot colour panels because it was that specific model of F-15) kind of goes against what I personally want from the MP line.
I am not going to tell anyone who likes this that they are wrong, and I am not ruling out picking one up in the future, but it's a different figure trying to do different things and appeal to a different collector - which is exactly what a second version should do. I happen to be in the smaller group who wanted what MP-03 delivered over and above what MP-11 does.
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To me, copying the limitations of the 80's animation (flat colours because frames were hand drawn, for example) or 80's engineering (dropping the CFTs and exposing the robot colour panels because it was that specific model of F-15) kind of goes against what I personally want from the MP line.
I am not going to tell anyone who likes this that they are wrong, and I am not ruling out picking one up in the future, but it's a different figure trying to do different things and appeal to a different collector - which is exactly what a second version should do. I happen to be in the smaller group who wanted what MP-03 delivered over and above what MP-11 does.
AngryChad
Great review! Agreed on all points, especially the face sculpt.
Never did like the head on MP-03, which is why I never opened the box. I always figured someone would make a replacement head it was so bad, but I never saw one. Now I can finally have an MP Starscream worthy of display.
Oh and the colors are a ton better. A wash would've been disappointing; out of place with every other MP figure. You can always add a wash if you want, but it's a lot harder to take it off.
Never did like the head on MP-03, which is why I never opened the box. I always figured someone would make a replacement head it was so bad, but I never saw one. Now I can finally have an MP Starscream worthy of display.
Oh and the colors are a ton better. A wash would've been disappointing; out of place with every other MP figure. You can always add a wash if you want, but it's a lot harder to take it off.
FatalT 71
That was a great review - now I can tell he's worth the money I laid out to get him. More than worth it, it seems like!
Should be here tomorrow...
Should be here tomorrow...
adambman
Yeah that's another good point along the lines of what I posted; even among other seekers the wash wouldn't really fit. At least a black or dark was would look harsh on Sunstorm, redundant on Skywarp and probably a bit tacky on Thundercracker, particularly if he were to have a metallic deco in the MP-11 format.
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charsdc2
He looks awesome!
Mumps
The main difference between this new one and the old one is the focus. The old one, the focus was on the Jet mode, and the bot mode suffered because of it. This time around, the Bot mode is the focus and the Jet mode suffers as a result, though not too much.
My MP-11 came in yesterday, and I have to say that it is my favorite version of the 2 toys.
My MP-11 came in yesterday, and I have to say that it is my favorite version of the 2 toys.
eriku
I agree on all points - especially about the hip articulation. It seems strange that they would update and 'improve' a mold and then make the articulation more limited. They claim the new MP line is meant to be more playable, but Prime and now Starscream having limited hip movement kind of goes against that.
Anyway, I feel like I've been moaning about this toy far more than I should. I guess I just "don't get it" and will have to leave it at that.
Oh, excellent review BTW, Shin!
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Originally Posted by Ratzo99 Hmm. Interesting review. Can't say I agree with the sentiment that this figure is superior in most ways to the previous seeker mold. I mean, I'm all for supporting a new figure, as we don't want Takara to suffer financially, but pretending something is superior, just because it's new seems a little silly to me. My thoughts on specific points: • The face/head on MP3 is far superior, it offers two faces, and it's a nicer sculpt. The Mp11's face doesn't look like any Starscream I've ever seen. I think it looks almost feline, and the curved cheeks are a bit feminine. • The nullrays/weapons on Mp11 being mounted on ugly struts/bars make the jet mode look ridiculous, and if you pop them off the arms in robot mode, you're left with gigantic ball joint ports that stick out like a sore thumb. Also, you don't get the missile option for jet mode, which looked awesome on MP3. • The crooked nose thing has indeed been an issue on some toys, but I do seem to remember there being a simple solution to this, I can't remember right now, but I'm sure someone will chime in. Anyway, it's barely noticeable, and to point it out as a big flaw, when Mp11 makes the jet-mode look toyish (in comparison), seems a little ridiculous. • The new feet on Mp11 look pretty bad, first off, he now has gigantic high heels, and secondly, the feet do not sit flush with the ground at any position, so he always looks "uncomfortable". • The hip kibble on MP3 could always be attached to the lower leg in order to achieve the same look that iGear and Mp11 boasts. Only gripe I have about it, is that the vertical stabilizers are very close to the ground and can make posing a little more limited than when they're on the hips. • Poseability should be roughly the same, if not BETTER on MP3, my reasoning for this is that Mp11 doesn't appear to have movable hip skirts, and MP3 does. This moveable hip skirting allows the hip joints to swing forward nice and far, but many people are unaware of this. I don't require the display stand to pose my MP3 mold seekers dynamically. • The jet mode definitely does NOT look "sleeker", Mp11 makes it look like a cheaper toy, with robot mode parts way more visible (which gives a jagged, un-smooth appearance), and the truly awful way that the null rays attach under the wing, and the lack of missile options, and the lack of display stand all equal a vehicle mode that is definitely a step down, any other conclusion seems kind of deluded to me. I'm sure there are some other things I could compare, but I don't want to be typing all morning. I like elements of this new Mp11, but I wouldn't buy it unless it was on sale by a wide margin. To those who prefer it, I'm happy for you, but let's not attempt to claim the original mold was flawed, when in reality, it was an excellent design that was simply a different "flavor". I do like the solid grey appearance almost as much as the white "walmart" SS, but the mold changes to the jet form kind of ruin its appeal for me, personally. No disrespect intended by my differing with your points of view. Cheers! |
I agree on all points - especially about the hip articulation. It seems strange that they would update and 'improve' a mold and then make the articulation more limited. They claim the new MP line is meant to be more playable, but Prime and now Starscream having limited hip movement kind of goes against that.
Anyway, I feel like I've been moaning about this toy far more than I should. I guess I just "don't get it" and will have to leave it at that.
Oh, excellent review BTW, Shin!
dmc2008
Yes I admit he looks fantastic, but $160 is a joke!
pud333
I got mine from HLJ for $162 shipped EMS. IT would have been $10-15 cheaper if I had gone with SAL shipping, but that takes a month sometimes. For that price, it's excellent.
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Acidophilus
Could someone please confirm if the hip skirts on the updated mold do not move?
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I saw a minor stressmark. And I wonder for the hinges areas, are there a lot of stressmark?
Does it have any major production fault like MP09 that we better wait for another reissue for this?
So far the only complaint I heard is that when you move the hands up, the upper body will be moved up too.
I saw a minor stressmark. And I wonder for the hinges areas, are there a lot of stressmark?
Does it have any major production fault like MP09 that we better wait for another reissue for this?
So far the only complaint I heard is that when you move the hands up, the upper body will be moved up too.
harrismonkey
This is better than I expected.
But I still have to go Greenscream all the way. I LOVE that toy. G1 Starscream was the only original seeker I never got. I've always disliked the color scheme, and I found the characters whining on the cartoon obnoxious.
I loved how Greenscream took some risks and updated a few things (similar to how the alternators were updating things). I've always been a little disappointed he was the only MP mold to take such chances.
The one thing I do find very disappointing about the new MP11 (he really is nicer than expected) is the plastic. I've noticed with recent MP's that they are using less paint than you'd expect. But the plastic choices have been very nice and given the toys a very good look. MP11's plastic does look more toyish than others (except maybe MP9). I'm a bit concerned if this ends up being a new trend in the toy line.
But I still have to go Greenscream all the way. I LOVE that toy. G1 Starscream was the only original seeker I never got. I've always disliked the color scheme, and I found the characters whining on the cartoon obnoxious.
I loved how Greenscream took some risks and updated a few things (similar to how the alternators were updating things). I've always been a little disappointed he was the only MP mold to take such chances.
The one thing I do find very disappointing about the new MP11 (he really is nicer than expected) is the plastic. I've noticed with recent MP's that they are using less paint than you'd expect. But the plastic choices have been very nice and given the toys a very good look. MP11's plastic does look more toyish than others (except maybe MP9). I'm a bit concerned if this ends up being a new trend in the toy line.
shockwave2005
Fantastic review.
Once I have the money, I will definitely pick this up.
Once I have the money, I will definitely pick this up.
Switch625
I think it looks great, but the hip kibble never bothered me and I see no reason to replace my Walmart MP Starscream. The only problem I have with this release is that it I think it greatly reduces my already small chances of getting an MP Thundercracker that matches the other two older model MP Seekers.
miscreant
Attempting to evaluate toys made for foreign markets based on American pricing doesn't really work.
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ex dtw2003
Great review.
I get the panel lining thing, but put me in the camp that you can't have it both ways. Panel lines look better in alt but make a G1 deco look"off" in bot mode. Which do we want more?
I get the panel lining thing, but put me in the camp that you can't have it both ways. Panel lines look better in alt but make a G1 deco look"off" in bot mode. Which do we want more?
OMEGAPRIME1983
Wow, what a review! I really like how this looks, though.. I can't understand WHY they made his head sit so high.. it looks to me that his head is sitting literally between the intakes, and it could probably sit down on the flat surface of the cockpit. Would have made it look worlds better I bet..
Jarrod
Or maybe we say it's superior, because we really do think it is. Every point you mentioned above is exactly why I like it better.
-The head: MUCH nicer sculpt, totally looks like Starscream to me. The first version was way to small, they head vents were too narrow, and the face changing gimmick, while nifty was just a gimmick. I never used the "normal" face anyway, plus it meant the neck joint was in a weird place because of it.
-The nullray struts, while ugly to you, are an awesome way of not having to remove pieces too me. They do not stand out in vehicle mode in my eyes. And the lack of missiles? Big whoop, SS was NEVER shown to have them, and they would just have to be swapped out for robot mode anyway.
-The crooked nose...yeah I had to fix that on 3 of my seekers, I shouldn't have to fix it, this one does it right out of the box. Not to mention it just fits together more solid anyway.
-MP3's feet always looked ridiculous to me, the angle they sat at, and the curvyness of them made them look like horse hooves or something. Yes MP11 could use some ankle articulation, they do LOOK much better. It's far less obvious in person surprisingly. As for the heels, I'll take big ugly heels that provide incredibly solid support versus none anyday. They are totally needed when using the cape...and while I had no problem standing my MP3 before, MP11 does stand significantly better.
-The hip kibble, are you kidding me? Yeah, it "could" be popped off and attached awkwardly to the legs, sticking up far past the knee, while preventing any kind of straight legged pose. Or you could more heavily mod it like I did (and I-gear) and have it permanently attach, and slide, on the lower leg. But no matter what it still looks "tacked on" and did not really follow the lines of the legs very well. All of which you still had to do something on your own to the toy. On the other hand, here is MP11, ready to go right out of the box, with the mod already done.
-Hold MP11 once, and you'll see his hip articulation is FAR greater. The little flaps on his hips DO NOT get in the way at all. In fact the ball joints on the original mold DO limit articulation...that is a fact, not opinion. As for the front flaps, they are hinged the exact same way as the original, meaning just as useless as the original. Neither one can actually flip upward/forward because the abdomen parts get in the way. I can move the legs forward the exact same degree on both molds
-In my eyes, the lack of CFT's does indeed made the jet mode look "sleeker." MP-3 looks too fat now...and that's not me being "deluded" thats just me expressing my opinion of what I think an F-15, and especially an F-15 representing Starscream in particular should look like. (This goes for regular, real world F-15's too...I think the CFTs make them look fat). And yes, it does expose some of the robot mode parts...the arms, that's it. I'd guarantee that if that one panel of the lower arms was just painted grey, we wouldn't have any of these complaints, there'd just be a flat, smooth grey panel.
If any part makes it look more "jagged" its the lower legs, which definitely are more pronounced...but that has nothing to do with the CFTs.
As for the original mold being "flawed", think about it this way: MP Starscream is supposed to be the Masterpiece version of the character, yet is a pretty significant departure in appearance from the actual character, so therefore it is inaccurate. Not saying its a flawed toy, just not the best representation of who it was supposed to be.
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Originally Posted by Ratzo99 Hmm. Interesting review. Can't say I agree with the sentiment that this figure is superior in most ways to the previous seeker mold. I mean, I'm all for supporting a new figure, as we don't want Takara to suffer financially, but pretending something is superior, just because it's new seems a little silly to me. My thoughts on specific points: • The face/head on MP3 is far superior, it offers two faces, and it's a nicer sculpt. The Mp11's face doesn't look like any Starscream I've ever seen. I think it looks almost feline, and the curved cheeks are a bit feminine. • The nullrays/weapons on Mp11 being mounted on ugly struts/bars make the jet mode look ridiculous, and if you pop them off the arms in robot mode, you're left with gigantic ball joint ports that stick out like a sore thumb. Also, you don't get the missile option for jet mode, which looked awesome on MP3. • The crooked nose thing has indeed been an issue on some toys, but I do seem to remember there being a simple solution to this, I can't remember right now, but I'm sure someone will chime in. Anyway, it's barely noticeable, and to point it out as a big flaw, when Mp11 makes the jet-mode look toyish (in comparison), seems a little ridiculous. • The new feet on Mp11 look pretty bad, first off, he now has gigantic high heels, and secondly, the feet do not sit flush with the ground at any position, so he always looks "uncomfortable". • The hip kibble on MP3 could always be attached to the lower leg in order to achieve the same look that iGear and Mp11 boasts. Only gripe I have about it, is that the vertical stabilizers are very close to the ground and can make posing a little more limited than when they're on the hips. • Poseability should be roughly the same, if not BETTER on MP3, my reasoning for this is that Mp11 doesn't appear to have movable hip skirts, and MP3 does. This moveable hip skirting allows the hip joints to swing forward nice and far, but many people are unaware of this. I don't require the display stand to pose my MP3 mold seekers dynamically. • The jet mode definitely does NOT look "sleeker", Mp11 makes it look like a cheaper toy, with robot mode parts way more visible (which gives a jagged, un-smooth appearance), and the truly awful way that the null rays attach under the wing, and the lack of missile options, and the lack of display stand all equal a vehicle mode that is definitely a step down, any other conclusion seems kind of deluded to me. I'm sure there are some other things I could compare, but I don't want to be typing all morning. I like elements of this new Mp11, but I wouldn't buy it unless it was on sale by a wide margin. To those who prefer it, I'm happy for you, but let's not attempt to claim the original mold was flawed, when in reality, it was an excellent design that was simply a different "flavor". I do like the solid grey appearance almost as much as the white "walmart" SS, but the mold changes to the jet form kind of ruin its appeal for me, personally. No disrespect intended by my differing with your points of view. Cheers! |
-The head: MUCH nicer sculpt, totally looks like Starscream to me. The first version was way to small, they head vents were too narrow, and the face changing gimmick, while nifty was just a gimmick. I never used the "normal" face anyway, plus it meant the neck joint was in a weird place because of it.
-The nullray struts, while ugly to you, are an awesome way of not having to remove pieces too me. They do not stand out in vehicle mode in my eyes. And the lack of missiles? Big whoop, SS was NEVER shown to have them, and they would just have to be swapped out for robot mode anyway.
-The crooked nose...yeah I had to fix that on 3 of my seekers, I shouldn't have to fix it, this one does it right out of the box. Not to mention it just fits together more solid anyway.
-MP3's feet always looked ridiculous to me, the angle they sat at, and the curvyness of them made them look like horse hooves or something. Yes MP11 could use some ankle articulation, they do LOOK much better. It's far less obvious in person surprisingly. As for the heels, I'll take big ugly heels that provide incredibly solid support versus none anyday. They are totally needed when using the cape...and while I had no problem standing my MP3 before, MP11 does stand significantly better.
-The hip kibble, are you kidding me? Yeah, it "could" be popped off and attached awkwardly to the legs, sticking up far past the knee, while preventing any kind of straight legged pose. Or you could more heavily mod it like I did (and I-gear) and have it permanently attach, and slide, on the lower leg. But no matter what it still looks "tacked on" and did not really follow the lines of the legs very well. All of which you still had to do something on your own to the toy. On the other hand, here is MP11, ready to go right out of the box, with the mod already done.
-Hold MP11 once, and you'll see his hip articulation is FAR greater. The little flaps on his hips DO NOT get in the way at all. In fact the ball joints on the original mold DO limit articulation...that is a fact, not opinion. As for the front flaps, they are hinged the exact same way as the original, meaning just as useless as the original. Neither one can actually flip upward/forward because the abdomen parts get in the way. I can move the legs forward the exact same degree on both molds
-In my eyes, the lack of CFT's does indeed made the jet mode look "sleeker." MP-3 looks too fat now...and that's not me being "deluded" thats just me expressing my opinion of what I think an F-15, and especially an F-15 representing Starscream in particular should look like. (This goes for regular, real world F-15's too...I think the CFTs make them look fat). And yes, it does expose some of the robot mode parts...the arms, that's it. I'd guarantee that if that one panel of the lower arms was just painted grey, we wouldn't have any of these complaints, there'd just be a flat, smooth grey panel.
If any part makes it look more "jagged" its the lower legs, which definitely are more pronounced...but that has nothing to do with the CFTs.
As for the original mold being "flawed", think about it this way: MP Starscream is supposed to be the Masterpiece version of the character, yet is a pretty significant departure in appearance from the actual character, so therefore it is inaccurate. Not saying its a flawed toy, just not the best representation of who it was supposed to be.
StarFire_MK2
Thanks for a great review! I didn't realize MP-11 was the same scale as MP03 until just now. I already have a Seeker armada so I won't be getting these, but I suspect one day, when the wing fracture happens, I'll replace MP03 with this!
Eric
Well now I feel glad that I sold Masterpiece Skywarp then. 
Definitely getting this toy if Hasbro releases it.
Definitely getting this toy if Hasbro releases it.
Acidophilus
Thank you jarrod for confirming that the front hip flaps do move just as mp-03's did. I thought that is what it looked like form the pictures I've seen.
So forward hip/leg range is just as good as the original, and the figures overall articulation is improved.
This looks like the figure MP-03 Should have been.
I have placed my order for it.
So forward hip/leg range is just as good as the original, and the figures overall articulation is improved.
This looks like the figure MP-03 Should have been.
I have placed my order for it.
NLWprime
when compared to the old one this looks way better then the old one
Ratzo99
I could debate the merits and issues of both, but it doesn't matter - if you like it better, hey, that's great. I would disagree with the quoted text above, though.
You make it sound like there are vast improvements made. You can plainly see in comparison photos that both molds are nearly identical. My argument is simply that Mp11 is every bit a downgrade, in certain respects, as it is an upgrade, in other respects. Add to that, the huge pricetag (above what it cost the first time this mold came out), and all I'm left with is a big pass.
I'd like to see a pose that you can do with Mp11, that I couldn't duplicate with MP3. Please prove what "FAR greater" amounts of articulation this new mold has, as you've claimed.
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You make it sound like there are vast improvements made. You can plainly see in comparison photos that both molds are nearly identical. My argument is simply that Mp11 is every bit a downgrade, in certain respects, as it is an upgrade, in other respects. Add to that, the huge pricetag (above what it cost the first time this mold came out), and all I'm left with is a big pass.
I'd like to see a pose that you can do with Mp11, that I couldn't duplicate with MP3. Please prove what "FAR greater" amounts of articulation this new mold has, as you've claimed.
pud333
I don't know what the naysayers are seeing. MP-11 is the better toy. The only thing that bothers me on it, are the bars that attach the null-rays permanently to the arms. They look terrible in fighter mode. They could have completely avoided this by leaving that part of the original design alone. But whatever. I think this toy takes a few steps forward, and one step back, so it's still not the perfect Jet transformer, but it's still very nice and better than the old one.
Megatron31
would you mind confirming if the correnation accessories fit onto the mp3 mold
dkr7
They dont, different shoulder design = different size shoulders
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Ah yes. This is the way that MP3 ought to have looked, in the eyes of most fans. The biggest changes include the following:
Transformation to robot mode is relatively easy(and easier than MP3). With the new parts, MP11 has a more balanced silhouette in robot mode. This actually results in a robot mode that is much easier to pose than MP3. No more attempts at finding a pose that can be maintained without toppling over. MP11 is easy to pose in robot mode and most importantly fun to pose.
The head sculpt no longer features a smirk, but a confident, yet shifty look. The face is nowhere near as dark as initial images suggested, and looks quite good. It reminds me of the way Starscream was drawn in the Dreamwave comics.
It is a bigger head than the head on MP3, however the sides are spring-loaded and fold in during transformation.
The chest missles are retained but the ones on mine could've been painted a lot better. The apps look cheap:
My only issue with robot mode is that the torso does not have a very secure connection to the waist. As such, moving the shoulders up/forward may result in the torso moving up with them. This issue was present on MP3 and its repaints. Surprised this wasn't fixed when it seems like just about everything else was.
Coronation gear
The shoulders each have a tab that the coronation shoulder pads plug into:
These tabs can move as to not hinder shoulder articulation.
The coronation shoulder pads also feature tabs that flip up as to not hinder shoulder articulation:
After plugging the shoulder pads in, clipping the articulated cape on, and crowning MP11 Starscream, the end result is:
MASTERPIECE KING STARSCREAM!
The cape has 2 hinges down the middle, and is mounted on a clip by 2 ball joints. The clip itself has detents which lock it into position on either side:
Overall the coronation gear is a lot of fun. Adds a lot of personality to an already worthwhile figure. I like how the cape is made of plastic, as it has hinges which enable it to be posed. It can be heavy for the ball joints if you pose the cape straight up. However, by working the hinges and swivel, you can find ways to keep it up.