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Takara Tomy 2013 Autobot and Decepticon Data Discs, Super GT-R

Posted on 11-07-2012 at 09:57 AM by ORIO under Japanese Transformers
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We have some new info on upcoming Takara Tomy releases for 2013 courtesy of Cybergundamn blog. First up are the Autobot and Decepticon Data Discs that will accompany your Fall of Cybertron Soundwave, Soundblaster and Blaster voyager figures. The Data Discs will be sold as four packs at roughly the deluxe price point. Also shown are the Super GT-R Optimus and Star Saber figures. This gives us our first look at GT Star Saber's new head and pictured with both are two small female figurines that will be coming with these releases ala Kiss Players/Binaltech Asterisk.

Release date for all four is April 2013. Check out the images after the break!
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Images for Takara Tomy 2013 Autobot and Decepticon Data Discs, Super GT-R

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PoweredConvoy
RIRFIB (based on the solicitation).

Also in that website are images of the prototypes for GT-R Optimus and Star Saber. They both come with figurines of the girls pictured.

Randy
miscreant
2980 JPY?

Even if that's for a set of four.......... $38.00 for those is daylight robbery.
Starscream Gaga
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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
RIRFIB (based on the solicitation).
On the English toys RIBFIR, as it should be.

Also, I hope Wing Saber can hold the Star Saber like a proper sword. That looks weird.
Soundwinder
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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
RIRFIB (based on the solicitation).

Also in that website are images of the prototypes for GT-R Optimus and Star Saber. They both come with figurines of the girls pictured.

Randy
... well... duh.
Cheem The Rup
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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
RIRFIB (based on the solicitation).

Also in that website are images of the prototypes for GT-R Optimus and Star Saber. They both come with figurines of the girls pictured.

Randy
Yeah posted yet in the super gt thread
Smasher
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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
Also in that website are images of the prototypes for GT-R Optimus and Star Saber. They both come with figurines of the girls pictured.
Please, not this again.
PoweredConvoy
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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga View Post
On the English toys RIBFIR, as it should be.
Not by Takara's methodology it isn't. Frenzy is always blue and Rumble is always red, even when it's not the G1 universe.

Randy
griffin-of-oz
As it should be...


Actually, until recently, the Gen1 cartoon was the only "universe" that had a blue Rumble and red Frenzy.... perhaps someone new (in the last few years) at Hasbro is a Gen1 cartoon fan and is trying to turn the tide back in his favour.
FIRRIB - Transformers Wiki
At least TakaraTomy are remaining uniform with the colours.
PoweredConvoy
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Originally Posted by Smasher View Post
Please, not this again.
Probably more like this, as it's clearly not meant to be controversial / racy.

Randy
Soundwinder
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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
Probably more like this, as it's clearly not meant to be controversial / racy.

Randy
Agreed. I rather liked Asterisk in theory... basically more like proto-Human Alliance (... in addition to proto-Kiss Players, but... can't win them all).
Kaijumaster
do we know if that Rewind is getting a US release?
PoweredConvoy
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do we know if that Rewind is getting a US release?
Yes, all of the Cassette guys seen here are getting a US release too.

Randy
Kaijumaster
sweeeeeet!
Grimlock_13
Those data disks make Legends toys look like Masterpieces. Absolutely pathetic.

I'm definitely passing on the new Alternity Optimus but Star Saber is looking great.
Soundwinder
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Originally Posted by Grimlock_13 View Post
Those data disks make Legends toys look like Masterpieces. Absolutely pathetic.

I'm definitely passing on the new Alternity Optimus but Star Saber is looking great.
Considering they're half the price of Legends, that's pretty much to be expected.
SPLIT LIP
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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga View Post
On the English toys RIBFIR, as it should be.
It should be RIRFIB, since the toys came first.
Transformed
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Originally Posted by miscreant View Post
2980 JPY?

Even if that's for a set of four.......... $38.00 for those is daylight robbery.
Like it or not, this price is on par with toys in Japan, especially the Transformers brand. Toys here, famous ones, come with a premium price. Low prices are associated with rather crappy toys.
miscreant
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Originally Posted by Transformed View Post
Like it or not, this price is on par with toys in Japan, especially the Transformers brand. Toys here, famous ones, come with a premium price. Low prices are associated with rather crappy toys.
Yeah, when you compare it to pricing for other Takara TFs...it may not seem to bad, but my first reaction was still '$40 for those??'

I like the look of the data disks a lot...... but $10 each...ow.
Soundwinder
Makes the MP Cassettes look downright cheap in comparison. I'd sooner pay $30 for one of those over $10 for one of these.
orangeitis
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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
RIRFIB (based on the solicitation).
Interesting... Takara is using the English name for Convimus in this line, but not for Fremble?
PoweredConvoy
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Originally Posted by orangeitis View Post
Interesting... Takara is using the English name for Convimus in this line, but not for Fremble?
They are as they always have.

It's just Hasbro who has decided to change things up recently to match their version of the cartoon.

It'd almost be like if TakaraTomy decided to start calling Skywarp Thundercracker and vice versa due to an animation mistake.

Frenzy has always been the blue guy for Japan and Rumble the red guy, and until recently that was true for Hasbro too. So TakaraTomy probably sees it as something that would confuse their customers so decides not to do it. It's not like Frenzy was Fumiko and Rumble Rumiko and they changed their names to their English counterparts - they've always been the same as their English counterparts so any kind of switch would just add to the confusion.

Randy
Macross7
So here is the question. If Japan always had Frenzy-Blue & Rumble-Red, how did they name them in the cartoon? Blue guy was making things shake. Can't get around that. Just let the kids be confused why the guy who sounds like shaking is never featured while a guy with a crazy name is shaking things up?
orangeitis
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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
They are as they always have.
They have also always called him 'Convoy", rather than 'Optimus Prime' too. They're calling him the latter because these are Hasbro characters. But then they decide not to call Fremble by their domestic names...

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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
It's just Hasbro who has decided to change things up recently to match their version of the cartoon.
How can we know that it's 'recently'? Just because they've resumed making Fremble toys?

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It'd almost be like if TakaraTomy decided to start calling Skywarp Thundercracker and vice versa due to an animation mistake.
Honestly, I don't think it's because of 'an animation mistake', it's probably because FIRRIB is more recognizable to western fans due to an animation error in the G1 cartoon.

Yes it might be to avoid confusion. But(at least IMO) I'd think that calling a character they've known to be Convoy/'Konboi' since before the franchise was even called Transformers now 'Oputimasu Puraimu' would be almost as confusing.
Soundwinder
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Originally Posted by orangeitis View Post
They have also always called him 'Convoy", rather than 'Optimus Prime' too. They're calling him the latter because these are Hasbro characters. But then they decide not to call Fremble by their domestic names...

How can we know that it's 'recently'? Just because they've resumed making Fremble toys?

Honestly, I don't think it's because of 'an animation mistake', it's probably because FIRRIB is more recognizable to western fans due to an animation error in the G1 cartoon.

Yes it might be to avoid confusion. But(at least IMO) I'd think that calling a character they've known to be Convoy/'Konboi' since before the franchise was even called Transformers now 'Oputimasu Puraimu' would be almost as confusing.
Because Rumble/Frenzy IS confusing, and there's no reason for them to change at all. Hell, we can't even decide on Rumble/Frenzy. Takara, at least, has been very consistent. Movie + Prime Optimus = Optimus, all else Convoy. Red guy is Rumble, blue guy is Frenzy.

... and we know it's recently because... it's happened recently. Hasbro was very consistent about Rumble being red from 1984-2010 or so. That... qualifies are recent, I think.

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So here is the question. If Japan always had Frenzy-Blue & Rumble-Red, how did they name them in the cartoon? Blue guy was making things shake. Can't get around that. Just let the kids be confused why the guy who sounds like shaking is never featured while a guy with a crazy name is shaking things up?
They just swapped the names so that the animation matched the toys.
orangeitis
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... and we know it's recently because... it's happened recently. Hasbro was very consistent about Rumble being red from 1984-2010 or so. That... qualifies are recent, I think.
We know there has been FIRRIB Hasbro toys released since 2010, but what confirmation do we have that Hasbro in general has been FIBRIR till 2010? Comics? Other merchandise/fictions?
PoweredConvoy
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Originally Posted by Macross7 View Post
So here is the question. If Japan always had Frenzy-Blue & Rumble-Red, how did they name them in the cartoon? Blue guy was making things shake. Can't get around that. Just let the kids be confused why the guy who sounds like shaking is never featured while a guy with a crazy name is shaking things up?
Frenzy & Rumble had the same power, voice, and personality on the show (the voice actors were different on the Japanese show though). So it didn't matter that Frenzy was causing rumbles as Rumble did too (regardless of what they were named).

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Originally Posted by orangeitis View Post
They have also always called him 'Convoy", rather than 'Optimus Prime' too. They're calling him the latter because these are Hasbro characters. But then they decide not to call Fremble by their domestic names...
Because for almost everything except the old cartoon they're still named the same as what Takara has been calling them. Even the recent change where Frenzy is red and Rumble is blue only has thus far applied to the Prime / Aligned versions as the RtS Rumble (who was blue) was never released.

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How can we know that it's 'recently'? Just because they've resumed making Fremble toys?
Alternator Rumble and Robot Hero Rumble (RH Rumble came out just a couple years ago) were colored as the red guy.

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Originally Posted by orangeitis View Post
Honestly, I don't think it's because of 'an animation mistake', it's probably because FIRRIB is more recognizable to western fans due to an animation error in the G1 cartoon.
That may be true, but for as many people who associate Frenzy & Rumble with the cartoon. There are just as many who associate them with the toy and original comic books (and a lot of the newer comics and toys).

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Originally Posted by orangeitis View Post
Yes it might be to avoid confusion. But(at least IMO) I'd think that calling a character they've known to be Convoy/'Konboi' since before the franchise was even called Transformers now 'Oputimasu Puraimu' would be almost as confusing.
The 2007, 2009, and 2011 films have changed things around. So starting with those lines and Animated they switched to the Hasbro names. The only exception thus far has been Ricochet and Stepper.

It's kind of surprising that Hasbro is going with the cartoon names since they usually stick to the toy interpretations with most of their colorations (but this might be an exception).

Any way, not sure why we're even discussing this at this point. Takara isn't going to change but Hasbro has as of recent.

Randy
PoweredConvoy
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Originally Posted by orangeitis View Post
We know there has been FIRRIB Hasbro toys released since 2010, but what confirmation do we have that Hasbro in general has been FIBRIR till 2010? Comics? Other merchandise/fictions?
Unless you count Prime Rumble and the just released FoC figures then Hasbro has stuck to RIRFIB up until now. The RtS toy was going to be FIRRIB but he was canceled. Every other toy of them has been RIRFIB and that still holds true for the G1 interpretations as everything thus far has been Prime / Aligned (though I imagine that will change if they ever release the Masterpiece figures).

I do wonder if they ever released the reissues how they'd name them.

Randy
orangeitis
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Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy View Post
Alternator Rumble and Robot Hero Rumble (RH Rumble came out just a couple years ago) were colored as the red guy.
Oh, okay then. I forgot about them for some reason.
Autovolt 127
I stopped caring who's who. I only go with whatever Hasbro doing right now.
orangeitis
That's what I'm doing too, but only for Fremble. Characters like Slag and Spastic will always have their original names to me.
Dolza_Khyron
woohoo! more kissplayers!
soundwave144
wow, i cant beleive that after all these years there are peeps that still argue this point. WHO CARES which one is frenzy or rumble? why cant we just buy the toys and not worry about who calls who what? if'ns u wanna call them whoever when u get them in hand, then thats ur way. no need to argue. we r a community of fans and seems like everybody wants to argue or fight over piddly stuff like this. geez!
Starscream Gaga
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It should be RIRFIB, since the toys came first.
Nope!
[Wing_Saber-X]
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Also, I hope Wing Saber can hold the Star Saber like a proper sword. That looks weird.
First off it's Star Saber (character) and his sword did not have an official name of its own. It was the 'Saber Blade' or summin like that. Get your facts right, man.
Starscream Gaga
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First off it's Star Saber (character) and his sword did not have an official name of its own. It was the 'Saber Blade' or summin like that. Get your facts right, man.
Sorry, I don't know very much about the Japanese cartoons. My mistake.
Transformed
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Yeah, when you compare it to pricing for other Takara TFs...it may not seem to bad, but my first reaction was still '$40 for those??'

I like the look of the data disks a lot...... but $10 each...ow.
I hear you, but in Japan, that's just the way it is. It's hard to look at them as the way the are abroad, I'm sure, but if you were able to walk down the isles of toy stores in Japan, you'd see how reasonable/normal the price is compared to comparable toys on the shelves.

Things cost more in Japan, that's just the way it is. Won't these be available in the States and elsewhere? I don't recall seeing any info saying this is a Takara exclusive, so if it isn't and you don't like the prices you see, wait it out ...but if you like the paint apps you're seeing, well, you'll have to bite the bullet.
Superquad7
I'm really liking those discs.

Those Skylines need to be 1:24 though.
TCJJ
I REALLY want this Super-GT line to be the return of Kiss Players. Don't ask me why. I don't know why. But I want it to happen. I also want those figures. I missed out on Alternity and can't be bothered spending the money to get Optimus and Megatron now, so I definitely have to get that Super-GT Optimus Prime. It looks great.

By the way, RIBFIR. That's my preference, at least. Then again, I watched G1 but didn't read the Marvel comics.
[Wing_Saber-X]
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Sorry, I don't know very much about the Japanese cartoons. My mistake.
np, dude. s' cool
Maz
CALLLLLSONNNNNIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCC GT-R!!!!!!!!!! A decade and a half of being a PlayStation Gran Turismo and Super GT freak, nearly 30 years of being a TF freak, this is just going to shatter my wallet next year because there's no bloody way I'll be able to resist. I was happy to ignore this initiative if they just stuck to the Motul Autech GT-R, but the Calsonic tears it...

Is it too much to hope for a Raybrig or Takata Dome Honda NSX-R, a Petronas Lexus....a YellowHat-sponsored Sunstreaker.....

EDIT: I have never owned the Alternity toys, but from what I see, the hood of the car transforms in a way that the central part of the splitter/grill isn't there in robot mode as the chest...so would the "MOTUL" across the Convoy's hood become..."MOUL" ?

All the best
Maz

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