TFW Fall of Cybertron Decepticon Data Disks Galleries
The four data disks - or "Diskrons" as SydneyY has named them - are all pretty much built around the central gimmick of Soundwave / Soundblaster where they deploy from the chest and spring open on impact. They are kind of addictive as far as gimmicks go (it is rather fun to watch them "pop out"), but the gimmick sacrifices poseability on them. Rumble and Frenzy each only get up-down rotational movement on their arms, while Ravage fares a bit better with rotational movement in all his legs as well as mid-leg joints. Ratbat has no articulation at all.
They are, basically, built for the gimmick, and it is a cool one which I personally find quite endearing. If you don't like gimmicks or like your toys poseable, you might want to wait for the Masterpiece cassettes next year. But if you like fun gimmckery and engineering, and like the idea of a Soundwave with minions that is not going to run you into the triple digits when all is said and done, this might be for you.
Check out the four galleries by opening the links below:
Generations Fall of Cybertron Rumble
Generations Fall of Cybertron Ravage
Generations Fall of Cybertron Ratbat
Generations Fall of Cybertron Frenzy
DISCUSSION: (Jump To This Thread On The Boards)
bigpink
"Diskrons" is odd... I prefer "Diskcons" and "Discbots" for each faction as we will see these repainted and reused over and over and over and over again for Blaster or Twincast.
Sideswipe80
When are these being released? I haven't seen anything on BBTS.
lordmegatron64
"Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage, Ratbat: Eject. Operation Interference."
Can't believe no one else thought of this!
Can't believe no one else thought of this!
Scaleface
Somehow I just hate the design of this Soundwave and his minions in this style. why would they be giant disks? Plus Soundwave is incredible out of scale to the whole rest of the line. I don't like it at all.
bigpink
It was the first thing that popped into my head when I read it.
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Originally Posted by lordmegatron64  "Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage, Ratbat: Eject. Operation Interference." Can't believe no one else thought of this! |
bigpink
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Originally Posted by Sideswipe80 When are these being released? I haven't seen anything on BBTS. |
Sol Fury
Diskrons is drawing on the official name of the Decepticon cassettes in the Japanese continuity, which was "Cassettetrons" (all the Decepticon factions had similar renaming i.e. Stuntrons and Combatrons). Plus it is also a play on the original Japanese faction name, Destrons.
Anyhow, to each their own. I thought it was cool
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Originally Posted by bigpink "Diskrons" is odd... I prefer "Diskcons" and "Discbots" for each faction as we will see these repainted and reused over and over and over and over again for Blaster or Twincast. |
Anyhow, to each their own. I thought it was cool
Grandum
Would you mind sourcing where it states that that is why it is named the way it is?
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Originally Posted by Sol Fury Diskrons is drawing on the official name of the Decepticon cassettes in the Japanese continuity, which was "Cassettetrons" (all the Decepticon factions had similar renaming i.e. Stuntrons and Combatrons). Plus it is also a play on the original Japanese faction name, Destrons. Anyhow, to each their own. I thought it was cool |
lazerface
These all look really cool, except for Ravage. Looking at Ravage just makes me sad.
Ratbat and the Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw look awesome.
I will be buying all of these though, if they are sold as two-packs.
Ratbat and the Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw look awesome.
I will be buying all of these though, if they are sold as two-packs.
Morbo
Those just look awful. The pictures shown with them next to G1 counterparts really drive home to me what a fail the new discs are, not a one of them even outdid their old selves. The need to service the disc shape, make them capable of springing open if I understand correctly, being tiny and Hasbro's current trend towards being as cheap as possible make them truly terrible.
Frenzy/Rumble's shoulders look bad, and they look about as articulated as a stick. Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw have giant cylinder-part wings, and Ratbat is the same, except they stuck a bat head on the ridiculously long neck. And Ravage is just a pile of random angular plastic with a small head sticking out the front.
The gimmick alone should have sold me these figures, but those pictures really make me reconsider.
Frenzy/Rumble's shoulders look bad, and they look about as articulated as a stick. Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw have giant cylinder-part wings, and Ratbat is the same, except they stuck a bat head on the ridiculously long neck. And Ravage is just a pile of random angular plastic with a small head sticking out the front.
The gimmick alone should have sold me these figures, but those pictures really make me reconsider.
Driskull98
I think they look pretty nifty.
knightmare6
I have Laserbeak and Buzzsaw, along with Soundwave and Soundblaster. The disks are a bit of a fight to get them into either chests of Wave or Blaster, and the back of the figures (Wave/Blaster) pops out so that you can press from behind to eject the disks. I just wish there was some posability with the disks. I wouldn't have minded have both Laserbeak and Buzzsaw at least be able to stand on their legs and look down at least or something. Instead both just lay flat on the ground on their belly.
SydneyY
If you are referring to "Diskron" name, there's no source. I was exchanging PMs with a Japanese member about those "data disks" and we kind of settled with "Diskrons", as Sol said, Decepticon cassettes are called Cassetterons in Japan. Nothing official in "Diskrons"
So yeah when Autobot Data Disks come out, I'll call them Diskbots. It's only logical (to me)
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Originally Posted by Grandum Would you mind sourcing where it states that that is why it is named the way it is? |
So yeah when Autobot Data Disks come out, I'll call them Diskbots. It's only logical (to me)
SydneyY
Yeah Ravage was a bit disappointing. He looks and feels very fiddly. To be honest I wasn't expecting much from those Disks since I wasn't too impressed with Buzzsaw that came with Soundblaster. But different paint apps and head made a world of difference (Ratbat) and I find Rumble and Frenzy adorable! Onto the "Gotta Catch 'em ALL" game, I am.
My son wanted to see how many Disks can be fit inside the chest, and while 3 disks can be stored, the third one didn't pop out 
It's a simple and fun gimmick though I hope little kids won't break the disks.
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Originally Posted by lazerface These all look really cool, except for Ravage. Looking at Ravage just makes me sad. Ratbat and the Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw look awesome. I will be buying all of these though, if they are sold as two-packs. |
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Originally Posted by knightmare6 I have Laserbeak and Buzzsaw, along with Soundwave and Soundblaster. The disks are a bit of a fight to get them into either chests of Wave or Blaster, and the back of the figures (Wave/Blaster) pops out so that you can press from behind to eject the disks. I just wish there was some posability with the disks. I wouldn't have minded have both Laserbeak and Buzzsaw at least be able to stand on their legs and look down at least or something. Instead both just lay flat on the ground on their belly. |
It's a simple and fun gimmick though I hope little kids won't break the disks.
knightmare6
I'm more worried about Soundwave/blaster breaking since the back is just that one piece of plastic, heh
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Originally Posted by SydneyY It's a simple and fun gimmick though I hope little kids won't break the disks. |
TF FOC Autobots
AWESOME! Totally getting all of these guys!
YoungPrime
Thank you!
I thought I was in the Twilight Zone for a minute. There's nothing about these things that makes me wanna buy them.
The Generation figures released this year overall get a C-
FOC must stand for "F***ing Over Collectors" because those Happy Meal Throwbacks aren't even worthy of being fish tank ornaments.
Come'on Hasbro, you've gotta do better seriously!
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Originally Posted by Morbo Those just look awful. The pictures shown with them next to G1 counterparts really drive home to me what a fail the new discs are, not a one of them even outdid their old selves. The need to service the disc shape, make them capable of springing open if I understand correctly, being tiny and Hasbro's current trend towards being as cheap as possible make them truly terrible. Frenzy/Rumble's shoulders look bad, and they look about as articulated as a stick. Lazerbeak/Buzzsaw have giant cylinder-part wings, and Ratbat is the same, except they stuck a bat head on the ridiculously long neck. And Ravage is just a pile of random angular plastic with a small head sticking out the front. The gimmick alone should have sold me these figures, but those pictures really make me reconsider. |
I thought I was in the Twilight Zone for a minute. There's nothing about these things that makes me wanna buy them.
The Generation figures released this year overall get a C-
FOC must stand for "F***ing Over Collectors" because those Happy Meal Throwbacks aren't even worthy of being fish tank ornaments.
Come'on Hasbro, you've gotta do better seriously!
Chris McFeely
Want these so much. This is all about play pattern.
lazerface
So are Soundwave/Soundblaster and all these minions already released in the states?
ViperDragon
Instead of Disc (or Disk, which reminds me of those crappy and useless Floppy Disks), why not call them Data-cons/Data-bots. They are robots designed for data storage plus IMO sound better than Disc/Disk.
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Originally Posted by bigpink "Diskrons" is odd... I prefer "Diskcons" and "Discbots" for each faction as we will see these repainted and reused over and over and over and over again for Blaster or Twincast. |
soundwave144
ooooooooooooohhh! i like-a da data-cons-a. it just kind of feels right... yeah... but i dont like the look of em myself. i love the larger soundwave fig, and look forward to having blaster, but i liked the analogy with the stick... they arent that great and was hoping for something...else i guess
Lody666
Ratbat-meh
The other three are CRAP
The other three are CRAP
Lody666
When Hasbro gets it right they get it right
But man oh man when it's bad...it's BAD
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Originally Posted by YoungPrime Thank you! I thought I was in the Twilight Zone for a minute. There's nothing about these things that makes me wanna buy them. The Generation figures released this year overall get a C- FOC must stand for "F***ing Over Collectors" because those Happy Meal Throwbacks aren't even worthy of being fish tank ornaments. Come'on Hasbro, you've gotta do better seriously! |
But man oh man when it's bad...it's BAD
lars573
I'd really like to know what you were expecting for half a legend figure?
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Originally Posted by YoungPrime Thank you! I thought I was in the Twilight Zone for a minute. There's nothing about these things that makes me wanna buy them. The Generation figures released this year overall get a C- FOC must stand for "F***ing Over Collectors" because those Happy Meal Throwbacks aren't even worthy of being fish tank ornaments. Come'on Hasbro, you've gotta do better seriously! |
Tracer
To be fair. Ravage that came with Hound was pretty awesome in the Universe line. Maybe something like that?
lars573
These disks are better than that Ravage.
Anguirus
Problem: They are one Legends figure, in a two-pack. That's what they are priced as.
For full price, the criticism is pretty justified.
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Originally Posted by lars573 I'd really like to know what you were expecting for half a legend figure? |
For full price, the criticism is pretty justified.
AnegefalosGR
**Looks at Perfect effect Frenzy Rumble, looks back at thread** AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Sol Fury
Not yet. They are out in Australia, which is where SydneyY got his from, and they are also out in Asia.
Problem with that logic: PE Rumble cost 5-10 times as much as these. Even with Hasbro's overall lower production costs, there's no way they could do something as complicated at the same price.
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Originally Posted by lazerface So are Soundwave/Soundblaster and all these minions already released in the states? |
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Originally Posted by AnegefalosGR **Looks at Perfect effect Frenzy Rumble, looks back at thread** AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
AnegefalosGR
I guess you are right because I am comparing apples and oranges Mr Sol Fury. Different toyline (3rd party CHUG imitations to official Fall of Cybertron line) and different price tag.
But I just couldn't help myself not give a very negative initial reaction!
But I just couldn't help myself not give a very negative initial reaction!
CapnScumbone
gimmickry vs. quality i see. these are less poseable and more poorly proportioned than their original incarnations.
Chris McFeely
I will happily sacrifice elbows, with a giant smile on my face, in exchange for a Soundwave who actually shoots cassettes out of his chest that transform on their own. I WILL be down on my hands and knees on the floor with the toys and saying "Rumble, Ravage, Laserbeak, eject - *snap* *pyong* - eject! - *snap* *pyong* - EJECT! *snap* *prong*" I have waited twenty-eight years for this. IT IS JOY AND I WILL OWN IT ALL.
YoungPrime
Perhaps an improvement on the Legends figures we got over 29 years ago maybe?
Declaring it a legends figure is no excuse either way since I would've preferred scout class figures instead.
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Originally Posted by lars573 I'd really like to know what you were expecting for half a legend figure? |
Declaring it a legends figure is no excuse either way since I would've preferred scout class figures instead.
YoungPrime
Okay then raise the price....I mean they're doing anyway so lets see some quality in exchange for our dollars.
Those PE figures are beautiful. So cool that I even caved in and bought them over those United R/F figures we never got in the States mind you.
If Hasbro made the same figures calling them the Platinum Edition selling them for the price as Scout or even Deluxe class they still would've sold faster than hotcakes.
We all know how ridiculously high those 3rd party figures can get which is why we rely so much on Hasbro to step their game up. Instead, it's their lack of quality or ability to produce the figures fans want, that breaths air into these other companies in the first place.
I get it though, it's a gimmick. Problem is that it's a lacking, whether it's a budgeting issue or not.
So in 29 years how poor in quality will the next Soundwave and cassette iteration be in comparison to the current?
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Originally Posted by Sol Fury Problem with that logic: PE Rumble cost 5-10 times as much as these. Even with Hasbro's overall lower production costs, there's no way they could do something as complicated at the same price. |
Those PE figures are beautiful. So cool that I even caved in and bought them over those United R/F figures we never got in the States mind you.
If Hasbro made the same figures calling them the Platinum Edition selling them for the price as Scout or even Deluxe class they still would've sold faster than hotcakes.
We all know how ridiculously high those 3rd party figures can get which is why we rely so much on Hasbro to step their game up. Instead, it's their lack of quality or ability to produce the figures fans want, that breaths air into these other companies in the first place.
I get it though, it's a gimmick. Problem is that it's a lacking, whether it's a budgeting issue or not.
So in 29 years how poor in quality will the next Soundwave and cassette iteration be in comparison to the current?
MWG
Ratbat is the only one that really looks decent to me. I'll probably get his pack and FOC Soundblaster to accompany WfC Soundwave, GDO Laserbeak, Universe 2 Ravage, and United Frenzy & Rumble (still wish Hasbro would release these in the U.S.). Now FOC Blaster and his discs may almost be "must-gets" since it is probably the best (and ONLY in the case of the minions) "modern" toys they will get.
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Sol Fury
Your personal opinion that it "should have been a Scout" doesn't make it any better or worse in fact, only in your own eyes, and therefore the Legends scale could be considered a concession. I can appreciate the viewpoint, but to be honest, my feeling is you have high standards that are next to impossible to meet. Correct me if I'm wrong on that, as I know you have a particular idea of what you'd like to see happen I've just yet to see you praise something as having met that (the comics being an exception)
In the meantime - I'm with McFeely:
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Originally Posted by YoungPrime Perhaps an improvement on the Legends figures we got over 29 years ago maybe? Declaring it a legends figure is no excuse either way since I would've preferred scout class figures instead. |
In the meantime - I'm with McFeely:
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Originally Posted by Chris McFeely I will happily sacrifice elbows, with a giant smile on my face, in exchange for a Soundwave who actually shoots cassettes out of his chest that transform on their own. I WILL be down on my hands and knees on the floor with the toys and saying "Rumble, Ravage, Laserbeak, eject - *snap* *pyong* - eject! - *snap* *pyong* - EJECT! *snap* *prong*" I have waited twenty-eight years for this. IT IS JOY AND I WILL OWN IT ALL. |
Grimwing
The return of Activators. Which were awesome. I love spring loaded transformations. No missiles to lose. No batteries to leak, no oversized accesory the figure can't grip properly. Just collector friendly desk candy play time.
Fall of cybertron themed micro activators!
Fall of cybertron themed micro activators!
Aernaroth
Bonus Round: Launching them through hoops and through towers of stacked blocks while they transform.
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Originally Posted by Chris McFeely I will happily sacrifice elbows, with a giant smile on my face, in exchange for a Soundwave who actually shoots cassettes out of his chest that transform on their own. I WILL be down on my hands and knees on the floor with the toys and saying "Rumble, Ravage, Laserbeak, eject - *snap* *pyong* - eject! - *snap* *pyong* - EJECT! *snap* *prong*" I have waited twenty-eight years for this. IT IS JOY AND I WILL OWN IT ALL. |
Cracka J
yeah I gotta say I'm pretty overly excited for these. kinda realize they won't be much in terms of articulation or display but they look like they will be a helluva lot of fun in addition to sw/sb. a few bucks more for a couple minions? sure I'm down.
Cracka J
yeah I gotta say I'm pretty overly excited for these. kinda realize they won't be much in terms of articulation or display but they look like they will be a helluva lot of fun in addition to sw/sb. a few bucks more for a couple minions? sure I'm down.
chuckcjc
Kinda sad when they are all outclassed by 29+ year old G1 designs.
lazerface
When are Soundwave/Soundblaster and all these "cassettes" going to be released in the states?
soundwave144
lmao! dude! i am sooo with ya on the play aspect! loved the response, i even caught myself adding new sound effects as i wuz reading it *pweew* *pweew* lol. i just cant see purchasing them for their overall look i think
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Originally Posted by Chris McFeely I will happily sacrifice elbows, with a giant smile on my face, in exchange for a Soundwave who actually shoots cassettes out of his chest that transform on their own. I WILL be down on my hands and knees on the floor with the toys and saying "Rumble, Ravage, Laserbeak, eject - *snap* *pyong* - eject! - *snap* *pyong* - EJECT! *snap* *prong*" I have waited twenty-eight years for this. IT IS JOY AND I WILL OWN IT ALL. |
Nemisispath
geniuspath strikes again! I'm calling the minions the "DISKcepticons"!
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