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In-Hand Galleries of Reissue Sixshot

Posted on 08-16-2012 at 07:11 AM by Secretcode under Generation 1
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Thanks to TFW2005 user starfish, we now have an in-hand gallery of the recently released reissue of Generation One Sixshot. The reissue is an Asian Territory Exclusive, features a metallic paint job, and also comes with a commemorative coin like previous Hong Kong Transformers releases.

An additional gallery has also been posted by a user on ACToys.
Views: 6,750 / Credit: Tekmen, Deceptigtar, starfish of the 2005 Boards!

Images for In-Hand Galleries of Reissue Sixshot

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opt1musaber
Interesting.
Ribieconvoy
As soon as I saw that silhouette I knew it was a work of Blitz's. Hopefully Blitz can chime in and let us know if this work is stolen or not.
Scourge_151
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Originally Posted by Ribieconvoy View Post
As soon as I saw that silhouette I knew it was a work of Blitz's. Hopefully Blitz can chime in and let us know if this work is stolen or not.
Is it stolen when it's their IP?
MechaV
wat.
Secretcode
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Originally Posted by Scourge_151 View Post
Is it stolen when it's their IP?
Anytime someone's work is directly stolen without compensation it is technically theft, regardless of IP.

There's no need to freak out or get paranoid just yet. Wait for the artist/user to chime in before going "THEFT!".
PrimusVsUnicron
original fan image next to the package version plz
harrismonkey
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Originally Posted by PrimusVsUnicron View Post
original fan image next to the package version plz
That would be best. At least unless Blitz-wing comes through first and says it is his and he was compensated.
opt1musaber
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Originally Posted by Scourge_151 View Post
Is it stolen when it's their IP?
Lol, this is a very gd point. This has definitely crossed into legal matters.
03Mach1
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Originally Posted by Secretcode View Post
Anytime someone's work is directly stolen without compensation it is technically theft, regardless of IP.

There's no need to freak out or get paranoid just yet. Wait for the artist/user to chime in before going "THEFT!".
So are you saying Blitz stole it originally so too bad or are you suggesting Takara is in the wrong? I couldn't tell based on the wording.
Soundwinder
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Originally Posted by 03Mach1 View Post
So are you saying Blitz stole it originally so too bad or are you suggesting Takara is in the wrong? I couldn't tell based on the wording.
I'm pretty sure his point is that it could be official, that Blitz gave them permission to use it.
Blitz.
So yeah... guess I should say something

the first I heard of this was about 10 mins ago when Little Iron dropped me a note on Deviant art.

TakTom have not been in contact with me about any official use of my art.

I have reached out to someone I know who might know the right channels to deal with this as I'd like to stay on good terms with people who I'd actually like to get paid work from.

On a personal note.... i'm a shocked as you guys. On the one hand I feel kinda cheated that as an artist who's stuck in a dead end retail job I've been ripped off. On the other ZOMG my art on official TF products how freakin cool is that?
Shatterpoint
Hasbro's condemning IP infringment and Takara's commiting it.

Wow.
Chris McFeely
That's some dodgy shit right there.
cobra zartan
Didn't somethingime this happen to a starwars fan in the past? Im sure I remember this happening and the guy ended up with a ton of swag. Please keep us updated!
Grimlock_13
BIG time horse shit right there. Hopefully you'll get compensated for your work Blitz.
MECHADOOM
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Originally Posted by Blitz. View Post
On a personal note.... i'm a shocked as you guys. On the one hand I feel kinda cheated that as an artist who's stuck in a dead end retail job I've been ripped off. On the other ZOMG my art on official TF products how freakin cool is that?
If I were you, I'd keep frendly discourse with Takara/Tomy, but try to find out who "did the art concept" for the packaging, and have some words with that person about artistic integrity, and how they have none.

I had a few designs on Cafe Press that weren't really doing anything, but when Cafe Press changed their agreement, saying they could take my designs and try to sell them on their own without compensating me, I pulled those designs as fast as I could, before the new agreement went into effect.

My point is this: Do you know if Devient Arts has any sort of clause in their rules that says "if you draw something that is the property of another company, that company can use your art"?
Secretcode
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Originally Posted by 03Mach1 View Post
So are you saying Blitz stole it originally so too bad or are you suggesting Takara is in the wrong? I couldn't tell based on the wording.
I want to avoid the vicious cyclical path this conversation usually brings up when saying this, but I'm referring to Blitz's hard work (aka the art) being stolen.

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Originally Posted by Shatterpoint View Post
Hasbro's condemning IP infringment and Takara's commiting it.

Wow.
It is not Takara. Asian Exclusives are for territories such as China, Malaysia, etc. and are not handled by Hasbro US or Takara, but by Hasbro Asia.
Blitz.
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Originally Posted by MECHADOOM View Post
If I were you, I'd keep frendly discourse with Takara/Tomy, but try to find out who "did the art concept" for the packaging, and have some words with that person about artistic integrity, and how they have none.

I had a few designs on Cafe Press that weren't really doing anything, but when Cafe Press changed their agreement, saying they could take my designs and try to sell them on their own without compensating me, I pulled those designs as fast as I could, before the new agreement went into effect.

My point is this: Do you know if Devient Arts has any sort of clause in their rules that says "if you draw something that is the property of another company, that company can use your art"?
I'm not interested in burning bridges with any company that seems to be as cool as TakTom or/and Hasbro.

As for this artist I'm not going to seek out some guy to tell him what he did was wrong.... I'm sure some hasbro legal eagle will do that for me

As for DA it actually seems to be ran really well its very much about supporting the artist in the hopes they use the print service they offer rather then taking everything. And you can find a ton of big names if you just look up their names
MECHADOOM
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Originally Posted by Blitz. View Post
I'm not interested in burning bridges with any company that seems to be as cool as TakTom or/and Hasbro

As for DA it actually seems to be ran really well its very much about supporting the artist in the hopes they use the print service they offer rather then taking everything. And you can find a ton of big names if you just look up their names
I wasn't suggesting you burn bridges with the company... it's just that someone, somewhere out there, was told to produce art for this toy. And instead of doing their job, they went to google and did an image search for Sixshot, and selected the coolest pic they could find (yours) to pass off as their own work. They likely got paid for it, too. That's the person I'd take issue with.
StayingInTheBox
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Originally Posted by Blitz. View Post
So yeah... guess I should say something

the first I heard of this was about 10 mins ago when Little Iron dropped me a note on Deviant art.

TakTom have not been in contact with me about any official use of my art.

I have reached out to someone I know who might know the right channels to deal with this as I'd like to stay on good terms with people who I'd actually like to get paid work from.

On a personal note.... i'm a shocked as you guys. On the one hand I feel kinda cheated that as an artist who's stuck in a dead end retail job I've been ripped off. On the other ZOMG my art on official TF products how freakin cool is that?
Wow ... this is most interest. Please keep us posted Blitz.
Blitz.
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Originally Posted by MECHADOOM View Post
I wasn't suggesting you burn bridges with the company... it's just that someone, somewhere out there, was told to produce art for this toy. And instead of doing their job, they went to google and did an image search for Sixshot, and selected the coolest pic they could find (yours) to pass off as their own work. They likely got paid for it, too. That's the person I'd take issue with.
bah I edited in a little bit as you quoted me.

yeah the artist who traced the pic was stupid but I dont feel like I need to hunt him down as I'm sure when the right people know they will make it quite clear its at best risky at worse a crime.


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Didn't somethingime this happen to a starwars fan in the past? Im sure I remember this happening and the guy ended up with a ton of swag. Please keep us updated!
I will have to look into this. But yeah post car fire and theft a freebie sixshot would be boss.

Oh snap best idea ever I will contact the guys at Kapow and if they get any coins in I will sign it from the "real" artist... for the lolz
MECHADOOM
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Originally Posted by Blitz. View Post
bah I edited in a little bit as you quoted me.

yeah the artist who traced the pic was stupid but I dont feel like I need to hunt him down as I'm sure when the right people know they will make it quite clear its at best risky at worse a crime.

I will have to look into this but if suddenly a box of swag turned up that would make my week much happier (post car theft and torching it really cant get much lower)
I must say, you're handling this very well, and it seems you have a more level head about this than I would. Hasbro would do well to welcome you into their fold. And what's this about a car theft?

Edit: just found the thread about the car, ouch!
Blitz.
honestly I just find it a bit funny since i've not had as much drama in the last week as I've had in the last 3 years
BP20XX
Man, gorgeous. Simply gorgeous. I've never had a sixshot so I'm definitely gettin' one before the year's out!
cybergaurdian
Wow Blitz. Awesome that your art is on an official product! But, PLEASE contact whomever needs to be contacted to make sure you get A: proper recognition and credit, especially since it is so hard to break in to the business and this is your "stepping stone" or "door opener" possibility, and B: the person who was supposed to make their own art for Hasbro Asia gets dealt with by management. This is theft on that person's part, so whatever punishment happens to him/her will have brought this on themselves.
Triggerhappy
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Originally Posted by cybergaurdian View Post
Wow Blitz. Awesome that your art is on an official product! But, PLEASE contact whomever needs to be contacted to make sure you get A: proper recognition and credit, especially since it is so hard to break in to the business and this is your "stepping stone" or "door opener" possibility, and B: the person who was supposed to make their own art for Hasbro Asia gets dealt with by management. This is theft on that person's part, so whatever punishment happens to him/her will have brought this on themselves.
seconded! super cool tho, congrats
Cadbane
I guess this is how it happened-
The guy who "borrowed" Blitz's work is either a freelance or an employee at Hasbro Hong Kong, then the person who approved the artwork obviously didn't have the knowledge to recognize it and let it passed. They might not pay enough attention to a coin sleeve design.

I think it can be resolved peacefully. Good to see you are calm there, Blitz.
Valkysas
So, uh...

aside from the art theft, which does indeed suck, why does an off-site gallery get frontpaged, when there's one right here on TFW from yesterday that didn't?

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...t-reissue.html
vmagnum
That is shitty. They could have at least try to appreciate fans who make the most out of a drawing, but hell no, they decided to just snatch one up and pretended nothing happened.
Zyros
Didn't DA have it a few years back that anything you posted up there, while retaining ownership of it, you gave them permission to do whatever the hell they wanted with it? Not sure if that's changed, though.
Tekmen
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Originally Posted by Blitz. View Post
So yeah... guess I should say something

the first I heard of this was about 10 mins ago when Little Iron dropped me a note on Deviant art.

TakTom have not been in contact with me about any official use of my art.

I have reached out to someone I know who might know the right channels to deal with this as I'd like to stay on good terms with people who I'd actually like to get paid work from.

On a personal note.... i'm a shocked as you guys. On the one hand I feel kinda cheated that as an artist who's stuck in a dead end retail job I've been ripped off. On the other ZOMG my art on official TF products how freakin cool is that?
Nice to hear there's some progress going!
Plz keep us updated.
Hope you will have your credit and payment for this official involvement! XD
Acid Wing
Slag, as a fellow fan artist, this is messed up, but at the same time, I see where Blitz is coming from in terms of being excited in seeing one's art on an official HasTak product. Then again, not being credited is just plain insulting and dishonorable. I hope you'll be able to resolve the situation with a positive outcome.
PoweredConvoy
Asia Exclusive Sixshot Reissue | Facebook

Really good gallery of Sixshot from about 2 weeks ago.
thesiege_2005
This reminds me of the time one of my works was used in the Beast Wars TV show without any credit... (Yes, I know I sound like Kup.) Still convinced that my rendition of the Decepticon symbol (see here) was used in "Nemesis, Part I" (at around 10:41). Of course I could not claim ownership of the trademarked symbol itself, just the JPEG that was floating around the World Wide Web in those early days of its existence. So at the time I just thought it was cool that I contributed something to Transfandom at large, so I understand the feeling of bittersweet elation.
However, Blitz, after looking at your awesome reinterpretation of the character (which goes way above and beyond just tracing an existing IP and putting it out there) I sincerely hope you do something about this and try to get some sort of compensation. I would not worry too much about offending HasTak -- if anything they will respect you more as an artist if you stand up for yourself and YOUR IP. And as others have said, it could actually open some doors. Best of luck.
YoungPrime
Meh....Hasbro really needs to give us an upgrade. If not...how much is that 3rd party one?
[Wing_Saber-X]
@Blitz: Sorry to hear about your predicament. Hope it turns out well for you.

Also, fuck T.Tomy/Hasbro for not giving us an updated Sixshot. This 'new 2012' G1 chromed Sixshot is just a half-ass, shoddy and rushed attempt at making more money. Im so sticking with the Hexatron 3rd party release.
Che
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Didn't DA have it a few years back that anything you posted up there, while retaining ownership of it, you gave them permission to do whatever the hell they wanted with it? Not sure if that's changed, though.
Don't think so:
deviantART: Copyright Policy
By the way
"Some examples of copyright infringement (this is only a partial listing) can include:
...
Using a creative work commercially."

And even if there is some obscure legal permission, this doesn't give moral permission to someone just use the work of an artist without ask permission...
jtscribe
You'd think there'd be Tak/Tom or Hasbro folks who keep an eye on the site, or somebody here knows somebody that can get the ball rolling to get this taken care of!
GizmoTron
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Originally Posted by [Wing_Saber-X] View Post
@Blitz: Sorry to hear about your predicament. Hope it turns out well for you.

Also, fuck T.Tomy/Hasbro for not giving us an updated Sixshot. This 'new 2012' G1 chromed Sixshot is just a half-ass, shoddy and rushed attempt at making more money. Im so sticking with the Hexatron 3rd party release.
The irony of this whole post. I don't see how you can feel sorry for Blitz's possible stolen art while at the same time support a 3rd Party that steals IPs.
Che
Cool easy way to solve this mess:

Hasbro:
- Okay... that's... embarrassing... and someone's head will roll out...
*Run to call Blitz*
[Wing_Saber-X]
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Originally Posted by GizmoTron View Post
The irony of this whole post. I don't see how you can feel sorry for Blitz's possible stolen art while at the same time support a 3rd Party that steals IPs.
yeah guessed I never thought of that!
while I feel sorry for Blitz, I don't support T.Tomy/Hasbro's Asia marketing arm for not clarifying or asking him for permission to use his art en mass and for commercial release. In addition, I wont be tempted to give my hard earned dough on something T.Tomy obviously is putting out as a desperate sign to make a quick buck off collectors. I used to be an ardent supporter but when of if T.tomy screws up in terms of failing to deliver and using inferior ways/ shoddy QC and false advertising with highly photo-shopped pics of their recent releases, then I have to draw the line as a consumer/ collector & fan.

IMHO, Hexatron offers something exciting, and for me whilst I don't generally support most blatant direct and copycat clone 3rd party stuff like Igear's... I will consider getting Hexatron because it is familiar enough to be a different yet unique take on he original Sixshot toy.
YoungPrime
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The irony of this whole post. I don't see how you can feel sorry for Blitz's possible stolen art while at the same time support a 3rd Party that steals IPs.
Hasbro isn't a group full of saints either...they play it extra careful while making those vehicle alt modes good enough to avoid getting sued or having to pay car companies for their designs.

Sure I guess you could say that by paying these car companies to use their designs it would cost us more.. but hell they're ripping us off with those skimpy overpriced figures anyway. (Look at the FOC line!)

It goes both ways...
Che
And anyway, Hasbro has how to defend itself pretty well... If they didn't do more yet it is because they legally can't do or they just don't want to do.

That's not exactly the same case of artists...
Deceptigtar
we do have a review here already instead of linking else were...

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...t-reissue.html
The_Black_Sheep
He does look pretty nice... But I really don't need another Sixshot. A reissued Artfire on the other hand...
starfish
I already posted some more in-hand photos (and a review) in this thread:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...t-reissue.html

Maybe worth a news credit?
Omnius
Can I haz nooz credit?
NormanB
I want a news credit too. Just because.

Also, Blitz, that's a fine piece of work, and I hope a little cheddar rolls your way for the use of it.
Star Saber
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Originally Posted by Blitz. View Post
bah I edited in a little bit as you quoted me.

yeah the artist who traced the pic was stupid but I dont feel like I need to hunt him down as I'm sure when the right people know they will make it quite clear its at best risky at worse a crime.




I will have to look into this. But yeah post car fire and theft a freebie sixshot would be boss.

Oh snap best idea ever I will contact the guys at Kapow and if they get any coins in I will sign it from the "real" artist... for the lolz
Hope you do get compensated, and maybe you can use that compensation to get the toy. It must be really awesome to have your artwork on an OFFICIAL Transformer toy!

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