TFCC 2013 Comic is Beast Wars Shattered Glass

New and exciting idea! msacras

Prowl's face freaks me out.

It's because the 2013 TFCC Magazine comic is a continuation of "Invasion".

And as I thought, Ultra Mammoth is Classicverse Ultra Magnus.

...guess Ironhide's the Elephant as per his Beast Wars toy... and the Eagle is Prowl? (Though he was an owl in the BW toylines.)

hmm....Interesting

Prowl's the lion, Silverbolt's the eagle.

Well those are the "Off-Camera" Magnaboss Combiner and the Grimlock (Beast wars dinobot repaint) which shared names with the G1 cast and then they've added their own Club Magnus toy on to that.

Perhaps it's more Multiple parallel Universe than Mirror Universe in the sense of normal Shattered Glass - we have seen glimpses of other Universes before like that Optimus that looked a bit like Grand Patriot and so on.

I can't see that this would sit easily with the prior Beast Wars comic though.

I always saw that Silverbolt as some sort of pre-Fuzor Silverbolt (Doggybot) with him somehow being mashed up with that Wolf Deluxe to make the resulting doggybot. Though in terms of vocal pattern the two silverbolts are not unalike - I never saw them as the same individuals.

I'm not sure how the process used there is really got a lot to do with Powermasters other than in terms of it being an Organic-inorganic interface to do with energy transfer. but considering the exact same function can also be done by mini-robots (Hasbro's overlord) it does not seem the right term to me to use.

Then there's a whole other argument as to if Maximal are derived from Micromasters and also if they are even organic at all - Cheetor claimed he wasn't in season 1 - just that he looked it.

P.s.

Silverbolt's Pinion Feathers and beast legs probably should be white.
Oh and he seems to be derived from United Ultra Magnus as much as the Classics one.

Nah, Silverbolt = eagle and Prowl = lion.

Fun stuff, though. I'm all for canonically casting Pretender tech as a proto-Beast-Wars evolutionary step. That always had a nice logic to it.

Hmph. For a moment, I thought they were doing some sort of adaptation of Beast wars Dark Glass (the unproduced episode which would explain why TM2 Dinobot somehow gets the original Dinobots memories in Nemesis Part 2).

I think I've figured out how this works.

In the bonus sequel pages for the "SG Magnus destroys the Classics universe" story, the Transtechs mention that two Classics ships also got caught in the teleportation into the new universe, BUT went elsewhere in time.

So these are Classics characters who got shot back in time in the SG Universe. Not sure which Earth it is but I'd wager it's the SG Prehistoric Earth. Which means no Ark, since the Autobots/Decepticons found Earth in the present day instead of 4 million years ago.

Also recall that the Transtechs JUST went and recruited Timelines Depth Charge to go track these guys down in the same sequel pages. So odds are we'll see the subscription figures in this story.

Why am I worried this is going to shit on Beast Wars?

Could be either really cool or really meh. Hopefully Transquito pops up and guts Prowl or something.

What Ratchet?

It'll be interesting to see where they go with this...as long as we somehow end up with a new Rampage homage toy I'll be happy.

Oh man this so lame
I really wish the club would make better use of its time
The club stories should elaborate on existing fiction and not waste resources with their own confusing continuity

This is elaborating on existing fiction. The time period between G1 and Beast Wars is largely unknown.

meh...

If they DID elaborate on existing fiction, it would ruffle just as many feathers.

They've shrunk the number of sandboxes they're playing with down to the Wings universe, the SG Universe, and Transtech. And the best part of the way they're doing this story so far, off this page, is it's allowing toy repurposing that doesn't actually feel forced or involve renames (there's been precedent for the idea that Prowl/Ironhide/Silverbolt are the G1 guys, this just reconfirms it for this story. And Grimlock was already the G1 character on his bio)

This is already a better use of those toys than the Beast Wars Sourcebook. Not saying much but still.

Its just Ultra mammoth Grimlock and the Magnaboss guys from beast wars. Not shattered glass.

It's not that same time period though.

It's taking remnant characters from the Classics universe that the club just wisely cleaned up (they're redundant thanks to the WoH universe) and repurposing them as their Beast Wars toy counterparts in the SG Universe, which probably has no pre-existing Beast Wars (no Ark crash on prehistoric Earth means no Golden Disk secret message means no Beast Wars).

Odds are the other ship is gonna be full of non-show Beast Wars toys who share names with G1 characters. I could see Buzzsaw/Laserbeak being among them.

*Prowl's face

derpa herp herp

im calling a universe dinobot repaint as the subscription.

As long as it has a new head I'm all for it.

I honestly wouldn't mind that at all. It'd be a nice way to replace the Beast Wars Grimlock toy that suffers from GPS while seeing someone finally use the Classics Dinobot toy again.

Subscription figure is Depth Charge already for 2013.

I wouldn't be against a Grimlock repaint of Universe Dinobot... in fact, it would be a great idea considering the original suffers from GPS.

(Granted, Silverbolt also has plastic issues, from what I've heard. Mine's never broken but apparently he's troublesome)

Though none of hte Autobots were "Shattered Glass" versions. THis just looks like a different universe type and not Shattered Glass.

I'm sorry, but this isn't "Shattered Glass" Beast Wars. This is just normal Beast Wars. At least so far. We've always known the Tripredacus members and Grimlock were the Autobots of the same name just reformatted into Maximals. Ripping off Maximum Dinobots isn't at all original either.

I was hoping FunPub would have left Beast Wars well enough alone as far as "Shattered Glass" is concerned. I have very low expectations for this. If this is the new direction they're taking with the comic, then why the hell is this years BotCon set Machine Wars based?! Why not dig out the old BW molds, or even the Cybertron Beast Planet figures, and repaint those in "Shattered Glass" colors. Gah! This just has FAIL written all over it!

C'mon, FubPub...let's do some Shattered Glass Alternators. Nobody's doing anything with those molds at the moment.

You are assuming that the club would even have the freedom to interact with existing fiction. Hasbro has the final say, the final "yea or nay", on anything that the club does, including fiction (like, for example, how the club is not able to do anything using Nexus Prime because Hasbro has taken ownership of the story of the 13)

On those grounds, because of the amount of planning that is involved, and Hasbro's ability to scupper plans fairly late in the game AFAIK, you cannot blame the club fiction for taking the safer route and telling stories that Hasbro is unlikely to pull out their "actually we have plans for X, therefore we do not want you to use them for story Y" card.

"Beast Wars Shattered Glass?" Really? Whatever, that comic looks nifty.

The premise is radically different from the routes the current IDW comics are taking, so for variety's sake it's a good thing.

Couldn't be less interested in it, though. They'll probably encounter Shattered Glass versions of Beast Wars characters, but the novelty has worn off.

Classicsverse was destroyed during Invasion yet many heroic Autobots and evil Decepticons now reside in the SG-verse. This would take place there and these are five of the surviving heroic Autobots.


The Beast Wars TV show and spin-off stories probably now takes place in Wings of Honor continuity.

It's set in the same continuity as summer's "Invasion" story where the Classicsverse Earth was moved into the Shattered Glass universe. Shattered Glass Beast Wars probably means just what Digilaut said, they'll meet an SG Optimus Primal and crew (hoping SG Primal is a winged monkey, Wizard of Oz style!)

I must have totally missed that. Thanks

And there's two ships that got shot back in time, like in the regular Beast Wars.

I suspect the other ship has Decepticons who have Beast Wars toys sharing their names. So my guess for the crew includes the following candidates:

-Megatron (gator)
-Laserbeak
-Buzzsaw
-Iguanus
-Ravage (aka Panther)
-Insecticon (one of the group)
-Bonecrusher (he's a Maximal, but it's a name reuse)
-Razorclaw
-Soundwave (Mutant)

Where was this story arc at? I dont remember it.

Nope, prowl is the lion, just under the eagle, who is silverbolt.

i know im holding my breath but maybe we will get a rodimus primal out of b'boom

Well... derp moment for me. Should've figured that the bot on the rightmost was Silverbolt... and yea... that would make more sense.

Yay news credit!

I hope SG Tantalus is a Wise-Cracking Red,Blue Predacon.

The epilogue of the Timelines 2012 comic. I think those pages got posted on the TCC site, too.

To sum up, the Transtechs mention that, as well as Earth, two Classics ships got teleported into the SG universe, but ended up unstuck in time (so they've evidently travelled into Earth's past).

We know one has these Autobots on it, so it doesn't take much thought to figure out the other one had Decepticons. And going off how they seem to be using existing toys (Ultra Mammoth aside as he's a subscription figure) with Autobot names already, I'm imagining the Decepticons will meet the same fate.

I kinda hope there isn't an SG Primal.

There was no Ark on Prehistoric Earth, which means no Golden Disk message and thus no incentive for someone to time travel back there.

(There is that Origin Matrix, but it seemed implied that it was safe until the universal crossover threw things out of whack)

interesting that they'd go "beast machine" with botcon being based on "machine wars" no big deal, just interested to see how it all ties in if at all

They must have the freedom because they have done it at least three times.
The first years cybertron story, pre beast wars story, and post animated story were all way more interesting then any of the shattered, transtech, or classic garbage they've produced. Granted that's just my ranking of these stories but reading a comic I'm paying a premium for that at best will explain 4 random renames from 15 years ago is just not appealing.

because its the club's mission to destroy everything we love dear

seriously, I almost vomited when I saw the words "Beast Wars Shattered Glass" on my monitor

Sure I am sick right now, but still, its like the club wants me to hate them, which they succeed at

You know I'd actually be all for that.

Anyway this seems somewhat interesting. I wonder if it will be just as confusing as all of the other Beast Wars fiction has been for me.

IMHO the Classicsverse storyline is a FunPub thing and not within Hasbro's already questionable continuities.

I think the Universe Optimus Primal and BM T-Wrecks can easily work for the SG versions of Primal and Megatron. Don't forget all those Fox Kids repaints.

I kinda think SG Beast Wars can be a interesting idea. Also Grimlock from Universe Dinobot please.

And I doubt they can do anything with them because the molds are licensed.