In-Hand Samples of TFCC Slipstream

Yuck. No. Urgh.

...That's supposed to be female?

That picture, even if it's from an iPhone, reallllllly doesn't do the figure justice. Not sure if this is the best way to produce hype for it.

We have more coming... I thought it looked good. Of course, I also have her sitting on my desk lol. So I am skewed as I am looking at the awesome up close

The figure's overall silhouette is really what sells it as a female. That pic doesn't show the hips and legs which are really important to that effect.

In other words it's the pic not the toy failing here


-ZacWilliam, waiting for the better pics coming later...

Quick shot of full body coming up...

Edit: Will wait for FB pics. Can't get right lighting here. The dark is really hard to distinguish.

*not shocked a female toy based on a male figure looks a bit odd* but I guess this is the most logical choice given the options.

So putting aside my huge hate for slipstream as a character (or rather her lack of character) the toy looks ok.



... now to just wait for someone to make a bust and hips "enhancment" 3rd party item to just prove that people can and will do anything.... and then see it sell in massive numbers

We want more NOW!

This.

The figure has zero female shape to it. Any way you look at it, the mold is just a feminine male... nothing more.

Wake me up when Slipstream gets her own mold.

Agreed with the "I think the figure looks okay, but that pic doesn't" thing.

she needs obvious breasts and a build like a barbie doll to work as a female for some people, apparently.

I don't know what you guys are thinking. I think she looks gorgeous, the pic is just a little dark around the head so it makes it looks a bit strange lighting wise. Nothing more.

Can't wait to have her on my shelf with Skywarp and Knockout. Now I just need a Prime Thundercracker and maybe even one day a Sunstorm.

See the thing is, 'feminine' characteristics aren't 'female' characteristics. There are males with feminine characteristics, and there are females without feminine characteristics. Yes, even in the Transformers species. Good examples of this are TFP Starscream and Strika. The TFP Starscream mold is still a male mold, no matter how feminine it is, just like any Strika mold is female no matter how masculine it is.

Skinny with high heels/lipstick = Feminine characteristics
Wide(r) hips and breasts = Female characteristics

Subscription Service Slipstream has zero female characteristics(except I'd imagine voice, but that's irrelevant for the figure). That is why I personally dislike this figure, and that's why I'm selling him when I get him. He's nothing more than a male redeco of a female character, and I dislike even the idea of that. Unless he's canonically a male version of a female character, without pretending it's female.

And fwiw, I think Barbie has a grotesque body shape.

still looks good to me but i hope that pic is showing that purple much lighter than it is, the promo shots show it much darker. hate promo shots and then the real thing is off.

What she needs is not to have broad shoulders and chest. Boobs don't make a feminine robot. Feminine proportion makes a feminine robot.

Skinny dude =/= female.

The head sculpt is great. Definitely a feminine Seeker in the Prime style. The body, on the other hand, I've never considered remotely of a female build. Slightly effeminate, yes, but there's a very important distinction there.

I dunno; the body looks feminine enough to me.

Agreed 100%.

This Slipstream is just Starscream in drag and renamed.

Terrible idea in 20/20 hindsight.

I like it...I'm going to take a possibly controversial stance here and say that Slipstream is a Cybertronian "otoko no ko", and roll with it. If it hasn't dawned on you yet, that's a male.

The head doesn't feel very seekerish

Wasn't there a thread previously that pretty much established there's no male/female Cybertronians...

On topic not the best photo.

But that's demonstrably wrong across many continuities.

You guys say Slipstream shouldn't have broad shoulders, when Animated Slipstream has broad shoulders...

i agree, i think the toy will look better once better photos are out... i can't wait to get this figure in hand... still need to place my order, gotta remember to do that soon.

Shoulder armor ≠ Shoulders



Besides, she has a smaller frame than the other seekers.

I think the body works just fine. Certainly the best Starscream toy to convert to a female.

Also, without getting into all sorts of gender/sex politics and biology, if they say it's female, it is. An alien species can work however it wants, particularly one where we don't know if they even consider sex/gender a thing.

As for the toy itself, I find the photo a bit poor. The head's details are poorly lit so it's hard to give a good opinion on it. The body colors look great, if a bit brighter than I want/expected. My only issue with the head (that I can tell from the lighting) is that it doesn't really "feel" very different from the base head, even though I know it is original.

Overall, looks nice, I might grab it if I find one at a good price.

Agreed; females have multiple body types.

Need I remind everyone of the awesome that is Strika?

The first toy of Slipstream, and it sucks.

Great.

Well, I do suppose that anyone that doesn't want their Slipstream can sell to the ones that do.

Guess I'll have to save up for then, right? X3

exactly. a female character does not have to have noticeable boobs and child-rearing hips to be an acceptable female. and they're robots on top of it.


furthermore, these toys are at best headswaps - they arent new molds, or significant retoolings, the service is working with what it's got. This is the only fig i want (i have a small collection, and all the FE starscream molds so far so...) And i think the fig looks great, even if it doesnt end up being'perfect' when i get it in hand ill still like it on the merits of its color scheme and mold.

if you dont like this redeco, what other mold would you have had them use for Slipstream. It's also nice just to have one more fembot available, keep em coming (next year Strika from RID Dreadwing K????)

Why Dreadwing? His altmode isn't even similar.

Strika from Bulkhead would make more sense to me.

EDIT: Actually.... why not Breakdown?

yeah,why not breakdown? besides we can save dreadwing for jhiaxus or something. hmmm,now i wonder if the guys behind these exclusives can find a way to make "exclusive" weapons to replace the arms micron.

Not necessarily.

I thought I already did.

What does being robots have to do with it? They're also a life form - a species. And while not all species has sexes, the Transformers are modeled after IRL humans. Same arm, leg, and head structures in usually the same configurations. To claim that it stops there without a detailed understanding of Transformer physiology would be wrong, IMO.

I love Strika, that toy is great... I'd love a new version of her too...

better idea- i had it in my head that strika was a plane for some reason. fixed brain is fixed.


TFCC are you seeing this- Strikadown for subscription service 2014!

(i m not sure if this would ever happen cause it might be risky or whatever, but imagine they did a whole six figures, all fembots from different continuities or something? That would be pretty awesome. it shouldnt actually be risky to make fembots, but i wonder if people would complain if they did that as a theme one year. i think it would be really progressive and brilliant to see that as a reality.

Looks hideous. I may get it for my Animated Slipstream stand in though and make sure the face isn't visible.

Like paying tolls...EZ Pass.

The robots proportions are pretty exagerated in some cases. You'll never find a human being shaped like Optimus in TFP, not to the same extreme as him. Not all human women have big breasts and curvy hips, some have small breasts and no hips.. Im just saying that a female TF could be big like bulkhead, with aproximately the same mass, and it wouldnt make her any less female/feminine in her appearance, cause women robots can be big like bulkhead just like man robots can.

All of my $90!

I think the chin is just a bit too long.

Nice cosplay, Knockout.

Seriously, that looks a lot like his head.

Eh... I'm not digging it so far, it just looks like Starscream is dressing in drag.

Skinny does not mean feminine.

However, just because the character is a female doesn't mean she needs to look feminine.

So it works.

True enough.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it seems that you're missing the point. Even if the mold had something that resembled T&A, the mold is still male, because it was originally intended for a male character.

Take Cybertron Override, for example. The toy and animation model is male, regardless of what Hasbro says. But Hasbro's artwork of Override is female, as it was created with Override being female in mind.

It depends, as far as I know. Different continuities handle Transformer physiology in different ways. If it's like the G1 cartoon where they are able to build/construct each other like humans do with Earth robots, then you're absolutely right there. But in other continuities where the Transformers are an actual species with lineages, families, etc and their bodies have nanomachines coursing through their veins, then that possibility is very low..

For the record, if you wanna treat the toy as a female, go right ahead. I'm not trying to stop you or change your mind. Hell, this isn't even an argument to me. The question as to why some of us don't think TFSS Slipstream is 'female' enough was brought up, and I'm trying my best to give my reasons.

So the club just updated their Facebook page with another picture of Slipstream.

(As opposed to the first FB pic they took which was bad, so they took it down and reshot the photo)

Ah, beaten to it!

I think she looks wonderful.

Well I like her.

So does she come with a new head? Or just the old one? I thought a new head was involved with this figure?

That IS a new head.

Also, they confirmed in the facebook posts that the lips are indeed photoshopped black; I assume that's the intention (not to mention why these are "samples", so they can catch stuff like that)

That mistransformation greatly helps distinguish her from Starscream.

The head is new.