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Botcon 2010 Collector's Club Roundtable

Posted on 06-26-2010 at 03:11 PM by Sol Fury under Conventions
Key points:

2011 Freebie:

Sideburn
- blue recolor of Classics Rodimus in Robots in Disguise Sideburn colors

2011 Club Exclusives:

Generation 2 Ramjet - recolor of Classics Ramjet based on Generation 2 Ramjet
Animated Transtech Cheetor - remold of Animated Blurr with a new head. Not necessarily an Animated universe character

- Action Master Thundercracker from the Classics Seeker mold was planned alongside G2 Ramjet for this years set, but Hasbro told them no based on the fact the molds were in use. Action Master Thundercracker would have been the free attendee figure. Ramjet as noted above will be a Club Exclusive, Thundercracker probably will not happen. Ramjet will probably be Fun Publication's final use of the Classics Seekers.

- No plans to do anything involving the Animated universe.

- Nexus Prime is now owned by Hasbro so he will probably not turn up in the Club Comics again; Hasbro may have their own plans for him, nothing confirmed.

-THERE WILL BE A LIMITED RUN OF 300 MORE PUNCH COUNTERPUNCH EXCLUSIVES. LIMITED TO 1 PER CUSTOMER, IF YOU ORDERED ONE PREVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT ORDER ANOTHER.


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Triggerhappy
G2 Ramjet!! OH!! Ok, for that I will join the club.

EDIT! and Transtech Cheetor!?

Well, that sealed the deal.
Digilaut
Animated Transtech Cheetor? Haha, that's awesome!!
yami4ct
Animated Transtech Cheetor. Hmm, never thought of a Blurr remold for that one. It's perfect, though. I may have to join to get that. Also, a blue Rodimus repaint as RiD Sideburn is very cool.
chrisr291
I will for sure Join for that!!! When should I register?
Tirade
I like the Classics Rodimus Mold, but not a fan of the Sideburn character.

So they do a G2 Ramjet for a club exclusive, but not for the G2 Redux BotCon set? Odd if you ask me.

Also, I have zero interest in animated molds. They might be sitting on that Transtech Cheetor for a long time.
Shatterpoint
I always thought blurr would make a nice Trans tech cheetor.
Valkysas
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So they do a G2 Ramjet for a club exclusive, but not for the G2 Redux BotCon set? Odd if you ask me.
They already said why. Hasbro was using the conehead mold at the time.

This also indicates hasbro is using the normal seeker mold, since they can't do the action master thundercracker deco they wanted to do.

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Also, I have zero interest in animated molds. They might be sitting on that Transtech Cheetor for a long time.
Pretty sure that your opinion alone won't make or break this figure.

They just said they won't touch the animated universe for exclusives at all.

that's stupid.

fun publications is stupid.

the only reason I can see that being justified is if they arent going to do it because hasbro's got that covered through generations or something.
prime13
Nexus prime now owned by Hasbro, eh?
Tirade
@Valkysas

Yes, I just read that info on G2 Ramjet.

As for my opinion, that is right, it's just that. But the fact that FunPub won't touch it for BotCon is smart. Animated is not that popular. I can only imagine the backlash if they started basing BotCon toys on animated molds. It would not be pretty.
Valkysas
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Animated is not that popular.
Sure it is. It'd be more a hell of a lot popular than that elite guard set from last year.

Part of me wonders if they'd avoid the animated universe because of worries about fan fallout that could very likely put the botcon seeker debacle to shame.

EDIT: just clarified. no animated universe touching "at this time". thanks for clearing that up, peoples.
Tenebrouser
It seems to me that outside of the 2006 and 2007 Botcon sets and the hard to miss Punch/Counterpunch figure, the TFCC people have no instincts for coming up with figures worth a damn. The upcoming exclusives are terrible choices, IMO. Who's the brain behind some of these decisions?
RedAlert Rescue
Hasbro said previously in a Q&A or Panel that Blurr was derived from the concept drawings for TT Cheetor - thus the super skinny legs and the hubless back wheels.
Tirade
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Originally Posted by Valkysas View Post
Sure it is. It'd be more a hell of a lot popular than that elite guard set from last year.

Part of me wonders if they'd avoid the animated universe because of worries about fan fallout that could very likely put the botcon seeker debacle to shame.
The problem with the Elite Guard set from last year had to do with the molds used. Look at this year's set: full of Classics/Universe molds. Seems to be selling very well.

EDIT: Looks like they are talking about not touching animated universe, not necessarily the molds. Oh goody. Just what everyone wants to see.
Valkysas
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EDIT: Looks like they are talking about not touching animated universe, not necessarily the molds. Oh goody. Just what everyone wants to see.
I'm cool with that. We can get some stuff we can shove in animated anyways. Hopefully they'll hit that cybertronian prime mold for kup.
TheFallen
RID Sideburn as Classics Rodimus repaint and Transtech Cheetor means I'm definitely joining the club
Red Snarl
So there's a chance that G2 sideswipe could be released on the club site? Please God please make this happen.
Sol Fury
Final update from Brian Savage:

THERE WILL BE A LIMITED RUN OF 300 MORE PUNCH COUNTERPUNCH EXCLUSIVES. LIMITED TO 1 PER CUSTOMER, IF YOU ORDERED ONE PREVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT ORDER ANOTHER.

They are limiting them strictly to people who missed out last time.
Fort Max
It's fantastic to see the animated moulds getting further life and the potential for future exclusives is enormous.
Tirade
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Originally Posted by Sol Fury View Post
Final update from Brian Savage:

THERE WILL BE A LIMITED RUN OF 300 MORE PUNCH COUNTERPUNCH EXCLUSIVES. LIMITED TO 1 PER CUSTOMER, IF YOU ORDERED ONE PREVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT ORDER ANOTHER.
Will there be a bigger head?

Nice that there are going to be some more available for those that want P/CP. Those should still sell out fast though.
Laser_Optimus
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Originally Posted by Sol Fury View Post
Final update from Brian Savage:

THERE WILL BE A LIMITED RUN OF 300 MORE PUNCH COUNTERPUNCH EXCLUSIVES. LIMITED TO 1 PER CUSTOMER, IF YOU ORDERED ONE PREVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT ORDER ANOTHER.

They are limiting them strictly to people who missed out last time.
Any news on when these will be made available on the club site?
Trek
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Originally Posted by Sol Fury View Post
Final update from Brian Savage:

THERE WILL BE A LIMITED RUN OF 300 MORE PUNCH COUNTERPUNCH EXCLUSIVES. LIMITED TO 1 PER CUSTOMER, IF YOU ORDERED ONE PREVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT ORDER ANOTHER.

They are limiting them strictly to people who missed out last time.
Woo Hoo! I'll re-join the club again for this! (I didn't renew this year because I missed out on P/CP).
guard convoy
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Originally Posted by Tenebrouser View Post
It seems to me that outside of the 2006 and 2007 Botcon sets and the hard to miss Punch/Counterpunch figure, the TFCC people have no instincts for coming up with figures worth a damn. The upcoming exclusives are terrible choices, IMO. Who's the brain behind some of these decisions?
lets see, in the fanbase, g2 ramjet and animated transtech cheetor are HIGHLY DESIREABLE......i mean, when blurr was revealed what did people clamor for? a transtech cheetor repaint, and people have been wanting a g2 ramjet for years.....they know what fans want, they are giving us what we want

i am drooling over the g2 ramjet and transtech cheetor, and sideburn, always wanted a sideburn lol

and saying animated is not popular is not true, 90% of the fandom loves animated, only a few fans really hate it
chrisr291
Front page that news!!! Tons of people will want to know more P/CP's will be released!
MidnightBliss
Now maybe I can get my hands on a P/CP without being bent over the proverbial log!!!
guard convoy
hehe another chane at punch/counterpunch, got to get some cash in time

lol i am laughing at the fact that the only reason the g2 set was done was to make an actionmasters thundercracker, i love them guys for that haha too bad it never happened
Trek
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Originally Posted by guard convoy View Post
hehe another chane at punch/counterpunch, got to get some cash in time
I'm setting some aside now. I won't get caught out again.
barrelks
So, if we join the club now, we would receive next year's figure (Sideburn) and not Dion, correct? If I can get lucky enough to get one of the P/CP, I may have to do that, and Ramjet is a 100% winner for me.
Trek
^ Correct. Deadline to get Dion as the club freebie was March 16th this year.
chrisr291
I know i'm probably dreaming but when will they release photos of the Blue Rodimus/G2 Ramjet?
tarheels
Al least I have another shot at P/CP. I hope they don't put it up while I am at work again.
Gryph
No Action Master Thundercracker? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! T_T
xZAOx
Wow, the club is going to have an awesome 2011 year for toys, same as 2010.

Overall they've done an awesome job this year with everything. I have many little gripes about P/CP (which noone brought up at the QA unfortunately), but all-in-all, all the club toys and the BotCon toys are awesome. Hopefully the BotCon 2011 set continues the trend.
Triggerhappy
I hope Hasbro are doing Action Master Thundercracker themselves
wipedout
Talked with Brian on the side in the Hallway (Nice guy BTW) They hope to put up the pre-order for the 300 P/CP in 2-3 weeks.

As far as the Head is concerned nothing will be changed. Apparently the head was an effup at the factory. They said the Factory wanted to even make it smaller. Confirmed as just one big screw up which was out of their control. They thought it could have easily been at least 10-15% bigger.
Abrogate
- So Clench wasn't meant to have pink guns? Well I call that a happy accident, cos I like them better this way.


- RiD Sideburn. Well, it's not something I would've asked for (jonesing for more Elite Guard/G2 stuff), but I'm not really gonna complain about a free figure. I'm sure it'll look nice with Sky-Byte. And will be a lot easier to transform than the real Sideburn


- So this set was originally based around AM Thundercracker, who didn't get made at all, and now G2 Ramjet is slotted for an exclusive? Eh, I can't really see paying exclusive prices for Ramjet with him not being a different character (i.e. Slipstream or something). I know it has no bearing on the toy, but it matters to me. Ironically, I might've considered paying for Thundercracker, just cos he's so bizarre and I'd love to see how they'd put it on the Classics mold.


- Transtech Cheetor from Animated Blurr. Mildly interested. I like the Transtech stories, but they tend to focus more on the bots who stumble into their 'Verse, rather than Transtechs themselves, so it's a bit hard to get a feel for them. Plus, he'll be lonely with no other Transtechs. But, I at least dig the idea of him being made (though, as I said with Sideburn, would've liked something else).

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Originally Posted by Tirade View Post
As for my opinion, that is right, it's just that. But the fact that FunPub won't touch it for BotCon is smart. Animated is not that popular. I can only imagine the backlash if they started basing BotCon toys on animated molds. It would not be pretty.
If they had a year that was fully dedicated to Animated, with the boxset being all Animated molds, etc. I wouldn't mind that. It'd definitely save me money that I shouldn't be spending and it WOULD be popular with people like David Willis, who are already big spenders.

However, if they took Animated molds and mixed them in with other molds to pass them off as G1 characters, I wouldn't go for that. As much as I love Animated's take on characters like Wreck-Gar, Blurr, Arcee (etc), the molds themselves just really can't fit in aesthetically with the "CHUG" stuff. Even the movie stuff fits in better than that.
ORIO
Sideburn sounds cool! That's about all I'm into off of this panel
Gryph
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Originally Posted by Tirade View Post
Animated is not that popular.
You are a funny man.
wipedout
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Originally Posted by ORIO View Post
Sideburn sounds cool! That's about all I'm into off of this panel
Don't really care about the character but would love to have a Rodimus in those colors. They just confirmed me joining for another year, Henkei Rodimus and Wildrider need company.
G.B. Blackrock
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Originally Posted by Gryph View Post
No Action Master Thundercracker? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! T_T
Yeah.... Me, too.

It's not like I ever really thought they WOULD do it, but to find that they got so close, and then that when the opportunity to use one of G2 Ramjet or AM Thundercracker opened up again, they chose G2 Ramjet, thereby essentially ensuring that AM Thundercracker could never happen...

it hurts a bit.
G.B. Blackrock
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Originally Posted by Triggerhappy View Post
I hope Hasbro are doing Action Master Thundercracker themselves
Seems to me that there was a stronger chance (which isn't saying much) that they'd have done G2 Ramjet themselves.

Yet FP chose G2 Ramjet over AM Thundercracker anyway.
Scantron
Won't be renewing my Club membership next year. I'm already very unhappy with the Club and there's nothing they have planned for 2011 that has enough draw to get me to hold my nose and waste more money on them. I will be getting the Sideburn 'freebie', since I renewed after March 16th to get P/CP this year, but I'm undecided about whether I'll keep it or just bundle it with my past year worth of Club Newsletters and sell it.

Very glad to hear that P/CP is getting another small production run for those who missed out the first time; I was able to get an order in the first round, so will sit out this one. Also glad to hear that Nexus Prime has "graduated" to Hasbro ownership. I was interested in seeing how his hunt for the pieces of the Star Saber would go and maybe Hasbro will pick up on that, since the Club dropped it for this "Elite Guard" crap that's going through the Club comics now.
Strarf
Next year's Club exclusives sound cool. I am so going to have to join the Club.
Gryph
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Originally Posted by G.B. Blackrock View Post
Yeah.... Me, too.

It's not like I ever really thought they WOULD do it, but to find that they got so close, and then that when the opportunity to use one of G2 Ramjet or AM Thundercracker opened up again, they chose G2 Ramjet, thereby essentially ensuring that AM Thundercracker could never happen...

it hurts a bit.
They didn't pick Ramjet over AMTC. Hasbro wouldn't let them use the normal seeker mold, because they're currently using it.
G.B. Blackrock
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Originally Posted by Gryph View Post
They didn't pick Ramjet over AMTC. Hasbro wouldn't let them use the normal seeker mold, because they're currently using it.
Actually, that "wouldn't let them use it" applies only to BotCon 2010. FP was planning the entire theme around AM Thundercracker, and G2 Ramjet was also to be included. That couldn't happen this year because Hasbro is making Generations Dirge with the mold. That applies to BOTH G2 Ramjet and AM Thundercracker.

HOWEVER, Hasbro is allowing G2 Ramjet for NEXT year for the club, because Hasbro isn't using the mold THEN.

If you like, I can blame the lack of AM Thundercracker on Generations Dirge, rather than the upcoming club G2 Ramjet.
Tirade
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Originally Posted by Gryph View Post
You are a funny man.
If a BotCon theme were to use one of the following:

1) CHUG molds

or

2) Animated molds

You tell me which will sell better? Yeah, that's right, the CHUG ones will most certainly go over better with the fans. IMHO, Animated has a rather fanatic, but small following.
MrSoundwaveGuy
Talk about lame Club exclusives. Transtech Cheetor could be cool but he'll probably just end up looking absurd
Grimlock_13
AWESOME news about G2 Ramjet for next year!!!!!!!

Wish AM Thundercracker would see the light of day (Or G2 Starscream) but since they didn't get permission to use the mold, I'll hold onto a thin string of hope they release Thundercracker and Sunstorm in Generations!

Rodimus in Sideburn colors is pretty funny since RiD Sideburn's super mode was Hot Rod inspired

Though Blurr is one of the few Animated molds I didn't think was garbage, I'm still passing on that Cheetor.
Abrogate
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Originally Posted by MrSoundwaveGuy View Post
Talk about lame Club exclusives. Transtech Cheetor could be cool but he'll probably just end up looking absurd
That's how Transtechs are supposed to look

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