 | | | Botcon 2009 Convention Toys Teaser Information | | Posted on 01-06-2009 at 02:47 PM by Sol Fury | Posting on the Transformers Collectors Club forums, Brain Savage has released a few small hints about what the Botcon 2009 Exclusive toy set might contain: "For one young Autobot..." is all we have revealed so far. While we tend to guard the convention sets and souvenirs closely, I want to let you know that we are very excited about what we have waiting in the wings!
The set we have planned features a select team of Autobots never before featured in G1 in this way. The timeline we are spotlighting is new, yet very familiar...
Let the games begin!
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| | Credit: xZAOx of the 2005 Boards! | Views: 2,385 | | Liokaiser: Quote:
Originally Posted by xZAOx Pete just reiterated it on the club boards. They can't use any molds that were originally created for the movie line. Paramount owns partial licensing to them. Most of those other molds are featured either in the video games or the comic fiction. | Thank goodness. I really don't want to see any Botcon movie toys.
BraveMax: Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarodimus I'm not sure that completely applies any more. For 2007, Dirge used the Ramjet mold, and Ramjet had only been released 3 months earlier. | That's a great point... If I had to guess, I'd say that the mold wasn't actively in use at the time they needed to make these... Maybe Hasbro made them early or something funky like that? Maybe FP got to use the mold first?
Who knows. There aren't any other contradictions to that rule that I can think of, though...
AniProwl:
I'm all for a Wreckers box Set.
Bogatan: Quote:
Originally Posted by JAYSCREAM origional wreakers
impactor-cybertron defence red alert ( i know again, but id kill 4 a fig of him)
roadbuster-barricade/onslaught from energon
whirl-any coptor bot other than armada cyclonus
topspin-cyber slammer recouler
twintwist-another cyber slammer recouler
rack and ruin-????????????
damn didnt really think this through | I had a line up for Animated Wreakers
Impactor - Bulkhead (leader works better than voyager as hes less fat, others have suggested Lockdown either with a new head.
Roadbuster - hasbro are providing him
Whirl - ????
Topspin - ????
Twintwist - ????
Rackn ruin - the new Jetstorm/jetfire set
Emirate Xaron - Any of the prime moulds though the ones without a face plate would save a new head.
Straxus - Deluxe animated Megatron with a new head.
I dont think thats what it will be though. Possibly Universe Wreakers. They would fit a Pre-G1 Cybertron gladitorial theme pretty well, after all who are you going to send to infiltrate that sort of thing if not a young Wreakers crew. If the Elita 1 rumour is for real she would sort of fit as part of the Wreakers based on her 07 role. I really hope its not true or if it is its not the horrid boat toy.
Fembots or Gobots, I hope not just not right for a 25th anivarsary set. Though it could be an Autobot set that trave lto the Gobot Universe as that would be new to TF but familiar to most of us.
Personally I think that the Diaclone theme would have been great for the 25th, but if its true that the universe toys arent being used then it would be a waste. Alternatively the Homage to Botcon/fill in the gaps/previoulsy planned but canvelled line up thats just a lot ot do with wanting that RID Defensor though. Pete did say a while back that the mould probably wasnt viable/ available for a club release. I cant remeber the exact phrase, but it would be nice if he had actually meant couldnt be done for a club exclusive because it was tied into a Botcon set. Slimaximus: Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogatan I had a line up for Animated Wreakers
Impactor - Bulkhead (leader works better than voyager as hes less fat, others have suggested Lockdown either with a new head.
Roadbuster - hasbro are providing him
Whirl - ????
Topspin - ????
Twintwist - ????
Rackn ruin - the new Jetstorm/jetfire set
Emirate Xaron - Any of the prime moulds though the ones without a face plate would save a new head.
Straxus - Deluxe animated Megatron with a new head.
I dont think thats what it will be though. Possibly Universe Wreakers. They would fit a Pre-G1 Cybertron gladitorial theme pretty well, after all who are you going to send to infiltrate that sort of thing if not a young Wreakers crew. If the Elita 1 rumour is for real she would sort of fit as part of the Wreakers based on her 07 role. I really hope its not true or if it is its not the horrid boat toy.
Fembots or Gobots, I hope not just not right for a 25th anivarsary set. Though it could be an Autobot set that trave lto the Gobot Universe as that would be new to TF but familiar to most of us.
Personally I think that the Diaclone theme would have been great for the 25th, but if its true that the universe toys arent being used then it would be a waste. Alternatively the Homage to Botcon/fill in the gaps/previoulsy planned but canvelled line up thats just a lot ot do with wanting that RID Defensor though. Pete did say a while back that the mould probably wasnt viable/ available for a club release. I cant remeber the exact phrase, but it would be nice if he had actually meant couldnt be done for a club exclusive because it was tied into a Botcon set.  |
No way its going to be animated most of the molds are too new probably we're probably looking at another a/e/c and the 07 classics molds is my guess
Bogatan: Quote:
Originally Posted by Basketball Jones It's not the Gobots. Remember Fracture and the other Wal-Mart exclusives in the Movie line? For 2007, Dirge used the Ramjet mold, and Ramjet had only been released 3 months earlier.
Classics was still over. | And by this Botcon all new Universe moulds will have been out for over three months and the line will be over so it seems like the same situation. Petes said that theres no new Univcerse mould fair enough but Im not sure its to do with the line being over or not.
I dont remember reading Petes comment on the use of Universe moulds but does he mean all of them or just the new ones? I mean Sunstreaker and Prowl have been out for 6 months or so and dont sport the 25th logo.
Slimaximus: Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogatan And by this Botcon all new Universe moulds will have been out for over three months and the line will be over so it seems like the same situation. Petes said that theres no new Univcerse mould fair enough but Im not sure its to do with the line being over or not.
I dont remember reading Petes comment on the use of Universe moulds but does he mean all of them or just the new ones? I mean Sunstreaker and Prowl have been out for 6 months or so and dont sport the 25th logo. | See thats what I'm thinking when he says new universe mold it could just be the NEW molds i.e. Hound cyclonus and that bunch, but I think the prowl and sunstreaker molds are open for use atleast I really hope so, Maybe a true con exclusive remolding the Prowl mold for Jazz LOL(I can dream can't I?)
Overhaulimus:
I hope I can even just go to BotCon this year,let alone get a set of the figures.
Omegatron1:
As one who's not a fan of the Thunderblast mold, I may have to wait and see before registering for my Iacon package.
BraveMax:
Sadly, the "wait-and-see" tactic tends to end with things like last year's "sold out" debacle. Usually better to bite, then fence the set to pay off part of the expenses Anti Spark:
What about those SS Movie toy repaints? "Ramjet & Skywarp"
dark69: Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti Spark What about those SS Movie toy repaints? "Ramjet & Skywarp" | botcon can't do movie toys at all
iwasherenotyou:
young autobot wheelie? NEVER!!!
young autobot hotrod? maybe
young autobot animated bumblebee? YES!!!! or no. maybe
on_a_warpath:
Maybe they're doing non-cartoon G1 toys.
Y'know, they could do like the deluxe Insecticons, Roadbuster, Whirl, anyone else that I can't think of.
Mr. Sinister:
So, if Impactor is in there, how about Macabre, the Decepticon what killed him?
Black Omega:
Maybe an Autobot themed Classics set? Games of Truth? A new Bumblebee or Hot Rod in the set? Man, the hint is very cryptic.
AlvarezTFbook:
From an insiders perspective it's very interesting to see all of your assumptions.
Johnator:
I am interested as long as they aren't Animated toys.
Victorysabre:
Rik! We miss you at the Club Forum!
Fosterlager: Quote:
Originally Posted by AlvarezTFbook From an insiders perspective it's very interesting to see all of your assumptions. |  I bet it is!
AlvarezTFbook: Quote:
Originally Posted by fosterlager  I bet it is! | I'm just sitting here grinning.
dark69: Quote:
Originally Posted by AlvarezTFbook I'm just sitting here grinning. | your evil! Solscud007: Quote: |
The set we have planned features a select team of Autobots never before featured in G1 in this way. The timeline we are spotlighting is new, yet very familiar...
| Im hoping for diaclone schemes. they could make up a timeline but use diaclone color schemes and that could fit under "yet very familiar"
Beastbot X: Quote:
Originally Posted by Basketball Jones It's not the Gobots. Remember Fracture and the other Wal-Mart exclusives in the Movie line? For 2007, Dirge used the Ramjet mold, and Ramjet had only been released 3 months earlier.
Classics was still over. | Okay then, think about this-- Pre-BW Megatron used the Cybertron Defense Red Alert mold at Botcon 2006, even though that mold had been mass-released only about 9 months before that and Cybertron was still going on during that Botcon.
I'm not sure why they're not using any Universe 2.0 figures, but if it's because they aren't allowed to it's a newer rule rather than an older one.
Insane Galvatron: Quote:
Originally Posted by AlvarezTFbook From an insiders perspective it's very interesting to see all of your assumptions. | What we'd all like to know is, did anybody get anywhere close with their guesses?
AlvarezTFbook: Quote:
Originally Posted by Insane Galvatron What we'd all like to know is, did anybody get anywhere close with their guesses? | Dude, I can't tell you that... But, sometimes things are more than meets the eye. Not just because I know what the set is, but I thought Brian's post was a bigger clue than people think. I don't know if that makes sense or not...
Drew Eiden:
Rik Alvarez sighting! Holy Toledo!
My guess is the Action Masters and their Action Master Partners colors reversed... think how cool that would be!
ams: Quote:
Originally Posted by AlvarezTFbook Dude, I can't tell you that... But, sometimes things are more than meets the eye. Not just because I know what the set is, but I thought Brian's post was a bigger clue than people think. I don't know if that makes sense or not... | If I were to tell you I own every single flipping book you've produced, would that garner me some extra information? SharkyMcShark:
We all know that it'll just be a set of AEC figures repainted to look slightly more like G1 characters to get everyone clamouring to pay through the nose for.
Move along, nothing to see here
Dinobot Nuva: Quote:
Originally Posted by ams I'd like to get some clarification on this, maybe at Botcon.
I can understand not being able to reuse CC BB or some of the other licensed vehicles, but does that mean EVERY mold made for the movie line is off limits? Why would Wreckage or Landmine be off limits, for example? | Wreckage is at the very least still based off of an ILM movie design, and therefore licensed.
Landmine's vehicle mode is also "licensed" in the sense that its meant to be an accurate representation of the buggies specifically designed and built for Sector 7 in the movie, so royalties or however it works would still have to be given to Paramount or w/e.
Dark Starscream: Quote:
OK, while we are working on finalizing the convention details, brochure and registration forms, we wanted to start the speculation game:
"For one young Autobot..." is all we have revealed so far. While we tend to guard the convention sets and souvenirs closely, I want to let you know that we are very excited about what we have waiting in the wings!
The set we have planned features a select team of Autobots never before featured in G1 in this way. The timeline we are spotlighting is new, yet very familiar...
Let the games begin!
Brian
| "Autobots" = not Beast Wars.
"Never before featured in G1 in this way" = G1 characters featured G1 universe.
"Timeline is new, yet familiar" = A new G1 universe.
This is Shattered Glass 2.
nsr46gamer:
"For one young Autobot..."..... this makes me think it has something to do with hot rod/rodimus prime. and the new but familar thing might have something to do with the animated series..... but it's already getting a hot rod character in season 3..... im stumped
SarahMobius:
Praying for WWI timeline >.<
Please no more wreckers... we have enough Springers already... (please don't hate me)
Is this going to be an ALL Autobot set..?
Edit: I also cast my vote for Elita-1... the toy was in the Botcon07 comic and just never happened... do want.
Hobbes-timus Prime:
I'm guessing it's the Animated Elite Guard done in a Classics/G1 style.
Fosterlager: Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbes-timus Prime I'm guessing it's the Animated Elite Guard done in a Classics/G1 style. | A Classics Sentinel Prime would be epic!
MoonRacer Prime:
Animated repaints with new heads!!
Hmm....
Bulkhead as Cromia
Prowl or Bumblebee as Moonracer
Lockdown as Elita (pink not yellow)
Optimus as Firestar
Gryph: Quote:
Originally Posted by Octavius Prime Fixed | I think Sentinel Prime would make a better Primal.
Solscud007:
For diaclones and in staying within the 'not using universe molds'
They could do the following
Powered Convoy (blue classics prime)
Black Walther P38 (black classics megs, yes it isnt diaclone but microchange get over it.)
Dino Robot (blue pants diaclone grimlock) not much of an idea though
Red Ligier JS11 F-1 (red mirage)
Marlboor Wheeljack (energon downshift)
black ironhide (energon towline)
diaclone starscream
If going by the loop hole of Ramjet and 07 botcon, then maybe they could use the sunstreaker and prowl mold. There is a large enough gap possibly? then we could get the diaclone police sunstreaker and blue bluestreak maybe.
Hobbes-timus Prime:
*backtracks through thread* Quote:
Originally Posted by AlvarezTFbook I thought Brian's post was a bigger clue than people think. | "tend to guard"
I think I called it, from a theme stand point, at least.
ETA: And, you know, if anyone called it before me, kudos. Long thread and all.
AutoCon2076:
What if it's the Headmasters and Targetmasters in a Shattered Glass War Within universe? That'd be old, new, familiar, and unfamiliar at the same time - right?
~Z
Fosterlager: Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbes-timus Prime *backtracks through thread*
"tend to guard"
I think I called it, from a theme stand point, at least.
ETA: And, you know, if anyone called it before me, kudos. Long thread and all. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Brian Savage waiting in the wings | evebird:
Yup. I think you guys got it.
Guard and wings.
Drew Eiden:
So my question is this... is it the Animated Elite Guard characters in G1-style toys. (ie Cybertron Defense Red Alert as Animated Ultra Magnus)
Or
Animated Elite Guard toys as G1 Style characters. (ie Animated Ultra Magnus repainted as Springer or something)
S250:
one day I heard a rurmor........Cybertron Thunderblast repaint....but not confirmed.
Hobbes-timus Prime:
To fosterlager: Brilliant!
To Drew Eiden: I would guess G1 molds done as Animated Elite Guard and Animated Exclusive characters (like perhaps Lugnut) made in a G1 style from A/E/C and Classics/Universe molds.
Off of what S250 said: Maybe Thunderblast as a "G1-styled version of the Animated Elita/Blackarachnia" character?
Commtech: Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnator I am interested as long as they aren't Animated toys. | The animated hater again.
BigRC83:
...one thing is for sure, they will be repaints I cannot afford.
General Tekno:
Oh man... I HOPE that they're doing Animated characters such as the Elite Guard in a G1 style.
I would LOVE Sentinel Prime and co. done in that style. Throw in a G1-styled Lugnut and I'm sold!
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