Transformers More Than Meets The Eye and Robots In Disguise Comics Coming In Jan 2012!
Read on for a full breakdown of the new series, images for the covers, and QnA info! Caution - Spoilers ahead...
After the Death of Optimus Prime (IDW #125, due in December), the "War for Cybertron" is officially over. The Autobots have won and took control of the planet. They are starting to rebuild. There is a choice though - stay or go. This is where the split into 2 books will happen. More Than Meets The Eye will follow Rodimus and his team, as they choose to leave Cybertron. Robots In Disguise will focus on the new leader, Bumblebee, and how he leads the remaining Autobots (and Decepticons, all Transformers for that matter), on Cybertron. Two books, one universe.
In More Than Meets The Eye, Rodimus will lead at least the following bots - Ultra Magnus, Drift, Ratchet (they are seen on the multi cover images). We will follow them and whomever goes with them in space as they search for the "Knights of Cybertron" a legendary band of bots. They are not even sure if they are real. They supposedly have the power to return Cybertron to the "Golden Age" before the war. This group will run into remnants of the Great War on planets and locations that aren't yet aware it is over, as well as other conflicts. So even though the war is over, it is still an action book.
Robots In Disguise will focus on Bumblebee and his attempts to rebuild Cybertron's society. Bots staying with 'Bee will include at least Ironhide, Prowl and Wheeljack. Thousands of neutral Transformers are returning home knowing the war is over. Cybertronians that fled the planet eons ago without choosing sides. Left over Decepticons are also present and need to be dealt with, re-integrated. Bumblebee doesn't want to return to the past; rather, he wants to forge a new future for their race. Here and now, moving forward. Managing all these factions and points of view is hard and we will follow his journey through that.
So basically - it is a philosophical difference between groups of Autobots after the war. Do they look to the past and try to rediscover it, or move away from it look to the future. We follow each view point in the 2 books.
At first, there will be some cross over in the books. But after the "split" officially happens (I assume Rodimus rolls out with his crew to go planet hopping), the books will be relatively independent of each other. There will be themes that may cross over, and Rodimus' crew members may "call home" every so often. But otherwise, independent.
The way this is being pushed is that if you are new to the IDW universe, new to Transformers, or just want to jump back in, this is a good point to do so. It's a reboot without losing the rich continuity they have built over the last 3 years.
Each issue ships with 5 variant covers, each shows the major players in each group, connected art covers. Will have Auto/Decept tattoos as well when they ship. 4 variants and one by series artist.
With that general back-story, I'll post brief QnA info from the event below. All paraphrased.
MTME/RID Questions
RE: Talent
No set time for arcs, writers, artists. Ongoing. Alex Milne, Guido, Roche, Wildman, Furman, all involved in something right now.
RE: Reading CHAOS first
Chaos - don't need to have read it, but reading Chaos will enhance the RID/MTMTE experience.
RE: Underused characters
Yes. Name tossed out - Metalhawk. Will still continue with core recognizable characters, but secondary guys will be worked in.
RE: Profile books (IDW Verse)
Chance.
RE: Decepticons
Starscream role in RID. Cyclonus even though in IDW not a Decept.
RE: Mini Series
Mini series to spin out from these series like Ironhide or Drift - not right now. Infestation and Original G1 are secondary books right now. Possible down the road.
RE: Furman on main continuity books
Loves work, but for now, he's on original and main is staffed well.
RE: Switching artists every 6 months
Not exact, but switch outs will happen.
RE: Cybertron modes
Wait and see.
RE: Decepticons
Play role - yes. Population of Decepticons in RID. Finding a place for Decepts in new world is a difficult challenge to overcome. Different way in MTMTE.
Non MTMTE/RID Questions:
RE: Last Stand of the Wreckers
Plans to continue - no chance right now.
RE: Legacy of Rust
Looking into it.
RE: Autoacrity
Expect announcement later. Set in past. Part of universe. Surprising revelations. Print/Digital - talk later.
Re: Prime Comic
No comment right now.
RE: Writing
Easier to write for these characters? - Always a challenge, but no different than other properties.
RE: G1 Collections
Will IDW continue to release G1 Marvel, collect full series, and will they do G2 in same way?
- Moving ahead, more coming, wait and see on where it goes. Not his personal dept so not 100% sure.
RE: Animated Comics
Not at the moment.
RE: Joe/TF Crossover
Not planned, but Infestation 2 is coming out.
RE: Release schedule
MTMTE week 1, RID week 3, etc - At first yes. Eventually, could change due to overall IDW scheduling. Also will try not to do 2/3 books of a single series in a row etc.
RE: Toys
Not his dept. :).
RE: Vetoing IDW ideas
Veto not a good word. Like to see all ideas, go nuts. If Hasbro needs to, will reel back in. With 1/2 exceptions, never vetoed idea. More of a collab, try to go back and forth until ideas work for everyone.
RE: Exodus/Exiles
More Novels? Stay tuned.
RE: Killing more characters
Not for an event just to sell books, but otherwise, no one is safe.
RE: Universes
Novels fall into current Prime Universe, Movie is own verse, and then IDW "G1" is another one.
RE: Other continuities
Right now - no plans to expand other continuities.
RE: War for Cybertron
Are the WFC games considered part of Prime continuity - YES. Quick and decisive answer.
RE: War for Cybertron Comics
WFC comics - no comment, don't read too much into that. Focus of this event is MTMTE/RID.
More Than Meets The Eye and Robots In Disguise Issue #1's and their respective 5 covers each go on pre-order this Friday, make sure to add them to your pull lists or grab subscriptions how you normally do. They should be in stores this January.
TFW2005 would like to thank IDW and Hasbro for passing along this information and involving us in the event.
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DISCUSSION: (Jump To This Thread On The Boards)
StayingInTheBox
Fucking sweet. I'm so on top of this.
Maverick Hunter Christian
The premise of these books sounds scarily similar to how the current ongoing started; except on Cybertron instead of Earth.
Anguirus
I'm acited.
Sounds like Optimus really is going to be dead for awhile, and possibly most of the Decepticons as well.
Moreover, these sound like really new and different sorts of storytelling. They tinker with fundamental assumptions of the TF universe. No Earth, no war, Bumblebee leading the Transformers?
It's 30 years later and for the first time I feel like the G1-based stories are looking FORWARD.
Sounds like Optimus really is going to be dead for awhile, and possibly most of the Decepticons as well.
Moreover, these sound like really new and different sorts of storytelling. They tinker with fundamental assumptions of the TF universe. No Earth, no war, Bumblebee leading the Transformers?
It's 30 years later and for the first time I feel like the G1-based stories are looking FORWARD.
G1Wheeljack
Looking forward to both of these books. Both have solid creative teams and interesting premises.
Smasher
I really don't know what to think.
The IDW Transformers lore has been a bit of a mess.
The space exploration aspect of More Than Meets the Eye sounds like the better of the two.
The IDW Transformers lore has been a bit of a mess.
The space exploration aspect of More Than Meets the Eye sounds like the better of the two.
Boy Blunder
Coming in Januray?
Well, happy birthday to me. Totally on-board with these. IDW always knows how to surprise me.
Well, happy birthday to me. Totally on-board with these. IDW always knows how to surprise me.
General Tekno
Cyclonus and Starscream in RiD? Fascinating - ESPECIALLY the use of Cyclonus given his IDW portrayal (and the acknowledgement in the article that he's not a Decepticon in IDW)
Hot Shot.
The synopses sound discouraging, but I have faith in the creative teams. That artwork is ace.
Kaijumaster
You know, honestly I like this. One of the things I loved about animated was the "war was over...at least ON Cybertron" angle.
ILoveDinobot
HOLY CRAP! I can't wait for the MTME series, Rodimus, Magnus and Ratchet are my 3 favorite bots! 
Aernaroth
RiD Comic
It has no signs of Sky-byte
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It has no signs of Sky-byte
I refuse to read
Meggamus
JamesBenjamin
So if I wanted to start reading some of these IDW books, is there a starting point where everything branches off chronologically or are there multiple universes/continuities within the IDW "G1" universe?
And: has all the older stuff been re-issued in TPB form yet?
And: has all the older stuff been re-issued in TPB form yet?
dj_convoy II
Hmmmmmm.
Hate to be Debbie Downer, but I wish Roberts was writing the "On Cybertron" book. Don't really care for Hot Rod/Rodimus (in pretty much ANY incarnation), and his design still looks poor to me. I mean, I'll totally read it... I'm just a little bummed. Maybe James'll turn me around...
I'm really a little surprised that RiD sounds better to me, as I thought bopping around in space was gonna be what I wanted. I think it's mainly just the idea of Rodimus leading the 'bots on a nebulous quest...
Oh, and ugh to Drift, as well.
Hate to be Debbie Downer, but I wish Roberts was writing the "On Cybertron" book. Don't really care for Hot Rod/Rodimus (in pretty much ANY incarnation), and his design still looks poor to me. I mean, I'll totally read it... I'm just a little bummed. Maybe James'll turn me around...
I'm really a little surprised that RiD sounds better to me, as I thought bopping around in space was gonna be what I wanted. I think it's mainly just the idea of Rodimus leading the 'bots on a nebulous quest...
Oh, and ugh to Drift, as well.
scubaboy31
this sounds absolutely fucking fantastic! I think this may be the point where they stop re-inventing the wheel, and let it start rolling...
I can't wait!
...not that I'm not enjoying the book at the moment...
I can't wait!
...not that I'm not enjoying the book at the moment...
Shatterblast
It all sounds interesting, but I don't expect them to go that long before they bring Optimus and Megatron back and re-start the war. As much as I'd love for Transformers to stay one ever changing narrative that's not the reality of what this franchise is, sooner or later it'll go back to Optimus vs. Megatron and Autobots vs. Decepticons, any deviation from that for any extended period of time will lose a lot of the supposed "hardcore fans". I just hope that they're serious about this and will see it through for a good long while, IDW's lack of consistent art direction and storytelling has been tiring.
scubaboy31
I also hope that pic of WFC style designs actually hints towards them using some of them. I really want to see the end of the hideous camaro-Bee we'd had the past few years, after the sublime E.J Su redesign.
Smasher
There was Hearts of Steel; an alternate continuity set in the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution. That's kind of the only one.
The entire IDW run except for the previous four or five months is available in TPB.
Check Amazon.
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Originally Posted by JamesBenjamin  So if I wanted to start reading some of these IDW books, is there a starting point where everything branches off chronologically or are there multiple universes/continuities within the IDW "G1" universe? And: has all the older stuff been re-issued in TPB form yet? |
The entire IDW run except for the previous four or five months is available in TPB.
Check Amazon.
Tony_Bacala
Quoted for TRUTH. 
I think the books look good, but the use of "Robots In Disguise" rubs me the wrong way. It should be used as a secondary tag line on toys, etc, but not as a primary name for anything anymore. There was a series/show/toy line with that name already. Confuses fans trying to learn history, search results, ebay listings, store listings, etc. Same goes for any other line name already used - Cybertron, Energon, etc.
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I think the books look good, but the use of "Robots In Disguise" rubs me the wrong way. It should be used as a secondary tag line on toys, etc, but not as a primary name for anything anymore. There was a series/show/toy line with that name already. Confuses fans trying to learn history, search results, ebay listings, store listings, etc. Same goes for any other line name already used - Cybertron, Energon, etc.
xZAOx
Ugh. Who cares? This is the billionth fucking soft reboot IDW has done. We got a title to 30 finally, only for them to soft reboot it YET AGAIN.
It's just that they act like this is the jumping on point that everyone was waiting for! But we did that with AHM. Then this ongoing. Not to mention the billion miniseries before that.
I know IDW isn't the only comic book company in the industry that refuses to have a title go into double digits if they can keep from it, preferring to do nothing but countless #1's, but damn, it's irritating. Hopefully the stories will at least be interesting.
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It's just that they act like this is the jumping on point that everyone was waiting for! But we did that with AHM. Then this ongoing. Not to mention the billion miniseries before that.
I know IDW isn't the only comic book company in the industry that refuses to have a title go into double digits if they can keep from it, preferring to do nothing but countless #1's, but damn, it's irritating. Hopefully the stories will at least be interesting.
General Tekno
Sounds like someone needs to update their sig to reflect this opinion 
Totally get where you're coming from, mind. Though isn't Hasbro doing some toys under a "Robots in Disguise" subline next year, going off their NYCC slides?
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Totally get where you're coming from, mind. Though isn't Hasbro doing some toys under a "Robots in Disguise" subline next year, going off their NYCC slides?
Inner-Demon
I have been carefully optimistic about these two books since they were announced, but initially discouraged that it was going to take killing Prime AGAIN, to get there. Luckily, this actually sounds like a broad step forward. I really feel like G1 is finally progressing past what we have seen time and again, to maybe some truly unique territory.
I will certainly be picking up both books come January, and hopefully continue to do so afterward. Finally some redemption after All Hail Megatron! Sign me up.
I will certainly be picking up both books come January, and hopefully continue to do so afterward. Finally some redemption after All Hail Megatron! Sign me up.
General Tekno
Yeah; it is annoying, I will agree there. But conversely, this new direction does sound interesting - and it would be odd to have an ongoing interleave with two separate stories.
...except I just remembered that they're doing that with Archie: The Married Life. Which is EVEN TRICKIER because that book has two separate branching continuities with the same cast interleaving.
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Originally Posted by xZAOx Ugh. Who cares? This is the billionth fucking soft reboot IDW has done. We got a title to 30 finally, only for them to soft reboot it YET AGAIN. It's just that they act like this is the jumping on point that everyone was waiting for! But we did that with AHM. Then this ongoing. Not to mention the billion miniseries before that. I know IDW isn't the only comic book company in the industry that refuses to have a title go into double digits if they can keep from it, preferring to do nothing but countless #1's, but damn, it's irritating. Hopefully the stories will at least be interesting. |
...except I just remembered that they're doing that with Archie: The Married Life. Which is EVEN TRICKIER because that book has two separate branching continuities with the same cast interleaving.
Deadboy
This sounds terrible. IDW totally lost their way with AHM and every new direction they've tried since has been even worse. I wish I could just stop caring but I own the entire IDW run up until 15 or 16 of the ongoing (can't remember at the moment) so I keep poking my head back in with news like this to see if they're finally doing something I can support. Seeing this only makes me feel even more justified in my decision to drop the book, though.
Tony_Bacala
I am selectively ignoring that and pretending I didn't see it. Blasphemy. And, bad for the other reasons too. How is a mom doing a google search for Robots In Disguise toys at Christmas next year going to know the difference between the figures from 10 years ago and the ones now, if they are both readily available at online retailers who cary more than current lines? Not to mention she has to wade through wiki pages and sites like these in the results. And for pages on this comic book for that matter, which also won't be connected.
Just my skewed perspective 2 cents, no one cares about that ish
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Just my skewed perspective 2 cents, no one cares about that ish
khopson
I hear what you're saying. I'll probably check out these books, but I'm amazed they (including Dreamwave prior to IDW) can't make a continuous ongoing series. They've done this (used the term ongoing series) several times before, only to kill it off or lead into some other title. It gets confusing after a while, especially for people who are scanning over all of the titles and trying to get a feel for what goes where. Just stick with one title for crying out loud. If they want to do spin-offs, etc., that's fine. However, like you, I'm starting to get tired of this.
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Originally Posted by xZAOx Ugh. Who cares? This is the billionth fucking soft reboot IDW has done. We got a title to 30 finally, only for them to soft reboot it YET AGAIN. It's just that they act like this is the jumping on point that everyone was waiting for! But we did that with AHM. Then this ongoing. Not to mention the billion miniseries before that. I know IDW isn't the only comic book company in the industry that refuses to have a title go into double digits if they can keep from it, preferring to do nothing but countless #1's, but damn, it's irritating. Hopefully the stories will at least be interesting. |
ORIO
I am excited. Roberts and Roche on one title is solid gold.
No plans for Wreckers or Dinobots bums me out.
5 variant issues for each though? Is it the 90's again?
Edit: The WFC designs on that one cover are extremely interesting... especially with what they said regarding that series.
No plans for Wreckers or Dinobots bums me out.
5 variant issues for each though? Is it the 90's again?
Edit: The WFC designs on that one cover are extremely interesting... especially with what they said regarding that series.
caitlindevi
when did Hot Rod become Wolverine?
Surge
January? I'm subscribing to RID (can you do that? I'm new to comics) with Christmas money.
Lumpy
yeah, there's plenty of old stuff on TPB, but i'd say just start with these new series and see where it takes you...
yeah, i see that... but i think they're just running out of ideas, and to go with MTMTE, RID just works better...
apparently it is the 90's... and that is dumb... i will not be buying 5 of the same book to have all the images... i'll just download the cover image with all 5 books together as a wallpaper on my computer instead...
I'm pretty excited to see where these books take us... and despite doing soft reboots multiple times in the past few years, it works for now... especially after some of their prior attempts have not worked so well... i also don't really see this as a reboot at all, it's just an expansion and splitting of the story, very similar to Green Lantern leading to Green Lantern Corp or Batman and Detective comics...
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Originally Posted by ORIO I am excited. Roberts and Roche on one title is solid gold. No plans for Wreckers or Dinobots bums me out. 5 variant issues for each though? Is it the 90's again? Edit: The WFC designs on that one cover are extremely interesting... especially with what they said regarding that series. |
I'm pretty excited to see where these books take us... and despite doing soft reboots multiple times in the past few years, it works for now... especially after some of their prior attempts have not worked so well... i also don't really see this as a reboot at all, it's just an expansion and splitting of the story, very similar to Green Lantern leading to Green Lantern Corp or Batman and Detective comics...
ORIO
I don't get why it's a big deal when a company reboots. More specifically, when IDW does it. I don't care what number the story is on just so long as the story itself continues.
Smasher
In IDW's case it's because the reboot rubs its nose in the face of what came before it.
There were about ten plot points from Furman's run that were completely ignored when All Hail Megatron came around.
Then the ongoing ignored several items from the All Hail Megatron arc.
The reboots have robbed readers of their investments in the original stories -to a certain extent.
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There were about ten plot points from Furman's run that were completely ignored when All Hail Megatron came around.
Then the ongoing ignored several items from the All Hail Megatron arc.
The reboots have robbed readers of their investments in the original stories -to a certain extent.
ORIO
Which were either tied up or expanded upon in Coda or the ongoing.
Such as?
Not saying your wrong or calling you a liar. But what for example..?
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Not saying your wrong or calling you a liar. But what for example..?
StayingInTheBox
The 5 variant issues is kind of ridiculous ... and I'm probably going to be ridiculous and buy them all. WTF?
khopson
There's a difference between rebooting and having several different titles of the same product. I don't mind rebooting, but IDW likes to take story arcs (Infiltration, Devastation, All Hail Megatron, etc.) and make them into series. Normal comics have story arcs within an ongoing title (continuity), which makes it a lot easier to follow. That's my gripe.
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nobleprime
All I can say is two things; it looks to hold promise, but more importantly.....FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP DRAWING THEM IN F...ING MOVIE STYLES! No one likes the movie design crap, it's why I quit reading them after AHM.
Smasher
Some things were yes -not to my satisfaction though.
Other things like Ore-13, the Transformers holomatter avatars, and all the various 'pop-out gadgets' they had available to them in vehicle mode just vanished.
Maybe I spoke in haste, but several things bugged me.
Starscream saves Megatron at the end of AHM and then in the first issue of CODA he's plotting how to kill him or at least let him die.
The Autobots completely ignore the chain of command and have a popularity contest to vote Bumblebee the new leader.
Prowl basically infiltrated Kup's mind so that he had a popular figure to support his agenda. What agenda? What did Kup actually do because of Prowl?
I never even thought that for a second, but thanks for stating it.
I don't require people to agree with me in order to have a discussion.
I should qualify my claims though by stating that I have been reading IDW in TPB form and I am a little behind.
Some of what I have mentioned may indeed have been resolved and I just haven't read that far yet.
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Other things like Ore-13, the Transformers holomatter avatars, and all the various 'pop-out gadgets' they had available to them in vehicle mode just vanished.
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Starscream saves Megatron at the end of AHM and then in the first issue of CODA he's plotting how to kill him or at least let him die.
The Autobots completely ignore the chain of command and have a popularity contest to vote Bumblebee the new leader.
Prowl basically infiltrated Kup's mind so that he had a popular figure to support his agenda. What agenda? What did Kup actually do because of Prowl?
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Originally Posted by ORIO Not saying your wrong or calling you a liar. But what for example..? |
I don't require people to agree with me in order to have a discussion.
I should qualify my claims though by stating that I have been reading IDW in TPB form and I am a little behind.
Some of what I have mentioned may indeed have been resolved and I just haven't read that far yet.
SouthtownKid
A relaunch is not the same thing as a reboot. And relaunches are just a fact of life in modern comics. Sales numbers are never going to allow a TF comic series to reach #80 again in the current market. There just aren't enough readers to keep an ongoing running that long anymore. So every time sales start to dip now, you can expect another relaunch from a new #1. It's a cheap pop that temporarily boosts sales until the next dip. Marvel and DC do the same thing with their comics, as well.
For my part, I enjoyed the slight re-purposing in AHM... maybe because it was the first time I could get into the IDW TF comics at all... and then again for the ongoing.
For my part, I enjoyed the slight re-purposing in AHM... maybe because it was the first time I could get into the IDW TF comics at all... and then again for the ongoing.
YoungPrime
......Okay so like is he Bumblebus Prime now or is he more like Tatto from Fantasy Island?
ORIO
The Ore-13 I'll agree with. The others I wouldn't really say they were loose ends. Although, you're right, seeing those things revisted would be interesting.
Good point. But Starscream wouldn't be Starscream if he wasn't planning an overthrow.
Ok, I absolutely agree with you there. Jazz should've stepped up. But I understand why that happened. Bumblebee is popular, they threw him up front. Then again, I do like what they've done with Jazz and Prowl. Looking forward to the next issue specifically because of those two characters.
That's a damn good question too. While that story in Coda was amazing and I loved it, it didn't really go anywhere. To be fair, I think Prowl just wanted Kup to be a focus of attention and hope for the Autobots.
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Macross7
So IDW makes this big effort to combine all their books and renumber them so Prime dying is #125....and they spin it into TWO books now. What was the point of combining them? Unless they go #126 RID #127 MTMTE #128 RID..etc. No wonder there are so many threads of which order to read the comics in. It makes no damn sense.
I'll probably read the first few issues of both but I'll probably drop them if they are just running around space & not going back to Earth. Never really like comics set in space. No grouding in reality.
I'll probably read the first few issues of both but I'll probably drop them if they are just running around space & not going back to Earth. Never really like comics set in space. No grouding in reality.
khopson
If you promote a book right, you can keep readers interested. Like I said, each of these separate books are basically just story arcs within a continuous series. I see stuff all of the time in Previews by other publishers hyping up forthcoming story arcs. Marvel and DC do a great job of this. Why can't IDW do the same? Do they really have to kill off every book and create a new title for continuity purposes? I realize DC and Marvel have titles that have been around for 70 years and will always have a following, but as big as the franchise is, Transformers should be able to muster a strong enough following to validate an ongoing series. Sales for the current series have been pretty consistent for a while now, and there are titles (other publishers) with lower sales than Transformers that have had an ongoing series for years. I don't doubt that these new books create a short-term spark, but as I mentioned, it all comes down to marketing.
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Originally Posted by SouthtownKid A relaunch is not the same thing as a reboot. And relaunches are just a fact of life in modern comics. Sales numbers are never going to allow a TF comic series to reach #80 again in the current market. There just aren't enough readers to keep an ongoing running that long anymore. So every time sales start to dip now, you can expect another relaunch from a new #1. It's a cheap pop that temporarily boosts sales until the next dip. Marvel and DC do the same thing with their comics, as well. For my part, I enjoyed the slight re-purposing in AHM... maybe because it was the first time I could get into the IDW TF comics at all... and then again for the ongoing. |
Shizuka
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Ceasar121
I tell you, I'm all for new directions, but the very idea of Bumblebee as a leader is stupid and makes my interest lower... I'm tired of the movie influencing other continuities. Prowl as leader makes sense, Jazz ok. Ironhide ok. Magnus Ok. Hell even Cliffjumper... ok. But all the frontlining for Bumblebee is FUCKING LAME. Next thing you know, Shipwreck is going to be leading the GI Joe squad.
My interest in these comics is to NOT be reading something like the movies, and then the designs and ideals are totally the movie verse. Slightly interested in the Rodimus 'team' series, Bumblebee leading Cybertron.... Not at all. Mainly because some former Decepticon, hell maybe even a bot would come along and say, you know what? I can kick your ass. I'll be the new leader.
Personally, I'm still pissed at the idea the Bots would have a popularity contest to pick a leader.
My interest in these comics is to NOT be reading something like the movies, and then the designs and ideals are totally the movie verse. Slightly interested in the Rodimus 'team' series, Bumblebee leading Cybertron.... Not at all. Mainly because some former Decepticon, hell maybe even a bot would come along and say, you know what? I can kick your ass. I'll be the new leader.
Personally, I'm still pissed at the idea the Bots would have a popularity contest to pick a leader.
SouthtownKid
DC just relaunched ALL their books at #1 just one month ago. Marvel has relaunched pretty much every series they own at some point or other. Uncanny X-Men was just relaunched. Spider-man has been relaunched numerous times. Same with Captain America, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, everything. There are now zero comics that have been continuing for 70 years without relaunches.
They are all still around, but when sales start to slump, you will get a relaunch. And it doesn't matter how you promote a book; reader drop off is inevitable.
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They are all still around, but when sales start to slump, you will get a relaunch. And it doesn't matter how you promote a book; reader drop off is inevitable.
Kaijumaster
giving it some more though this DOES feel like an attempt to bring Focus to the comics, which have been an utter Mess since AHM ended. Even the current Choas story is just that.....utter chaos, the every other issue, the super dark art, the booms and bangs serving now purpose, and through all of it Galvatrons trying to SAVE the universe and Primes just saying "ERR...Galvatron Bad!" when Galvatron tries to talk to him. And when Galvatron says "F it all I'll save the universe without you".... Prime sayis "Lets talk about this" ?!?!? Like 2 issues you refused to do just that!!!!
Issue 22 & 23 where such a hit because they cut through all this crap we've had since AHM #12. I really hope this rebranding brings it into focus, but seriously, the whole Bumblebee things needs to end. Unless he gets the Matrix and Becomes Beedmus Prime.
Issue 22 & 23 where such a hit because they cut through all this crap we've had since AHM #12. I really hope this rebranding brings it into focus, but seriously, the whole Bumblebee things needs to end. Unless he gets the Matrix and Becomes Beedmus Prime.
ZacWilliam
Rogers and Roche have produced some of the best TF stories EVER by this point. Nothing Roberts has written has been less than wonderful. Their book should be the best TF story of next year, easy.
Can't wait.
And I've heard very good things about what Barber did to fix the Movie books, so I'm all in.
-ZacWilliam, these should be awesome books. like I said, can't wait.
Can't wait.
And I've heard very good things about what Barber did to fix the Movie books, so I'm all in.
-ZacWilliam, these should be awesome books. like I said, can't wait.
ScottyP
IDW Run in a nutshell (just my opinion, no one get too butthurt):
- Start strong, Furmanverse starts to get fleshed out.
- Confuse sequence of events thoroughly through Spotlight series and other mini-series.
- Furmanverse becomes a mess with no direction.
- AHM relaunch. Ok, awesome.
- Ongoing happens. Mess with no direction from the beginning.
- Lead up to Chaos, esp. 22/23 as previously mentioned, are awesome.
- Chaos (so far): mess with no (obvious) direction.
- RiD/MTMtE relaunch. Wait and see. Hope for the best.
- Start strong, Furmanverse starts to get fleshed out.
- Confuse sequence of events thoroughly through Spotlight series and other mini-series.
- Furmanverse becomes a mess with no direction.
- AHM relaunch. Ok, awesome.
- Ongoing happens. Mess with no direction from the beginning.
- Lead up to Chaos, esp. 22/23 as previously mentioned, are awesome.
- Chaos (so far): mess with no (obvious) direction.
- RiD/MTMtE relaunch. Wait and see. Hope for the best.
Optimus8404
No Optimus Prime= EPIC FAIL! Nice work IDW. Keep ruining the comic continuity.
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