 | | | Transformers Henkei C-07 and C-08 are Sunstreaker and Prowl | | Posted on 04-08-2008 at 03:49 PM by Super_Megatron | RSS Feeds | Thanks to Spencer from Agesthreeandup.com for letting us know that the final 2 Japanese Classics figures from the upcoming assortment will be Sunstreaker and Prowl.
As previously reported D-04 is Ramjet and C-06 is Jetfire. These figures are scheduled for this September.
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From the releases I have received, C-07 is Sunstreaker and C-08 would be prowl.
Spencer.
Fosterlager: Quote:
Originally Posted by agesthreeandup From the releases I have received, C-07 is Sunstreaker and C-08 would be prowl.
Spencer. | Thanks for the update!
Red Snarl:
Had a feeling at least one of them would be a universe classics. Thought the other one would be Cliffjumper.
clonemanager:
Just wondering whether the Japanese's 'd be released before the Hasbro 's classics 2.0 ?
Velcrohead:
WANT!!!
No, NEED!!!
Fosterlager: Quote:
Originally Posted by clonemanager Just wondering whether the Japanese's 'd be released before the Hasbro 's classics 2.0 ? | The Universe versions are scheduled for August, the BBTS Henkei preorders cite a September release. I like the timing, I'll be able to compare paint differences and get what I like better!
Hiro Prime:
I wonder if they will chrome certain parts on them like the other Henkei or change any paint to make them stand out a bit more.
Fosterlager: Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiro Prime I wonder if they will chrome certain parts on them like the other Henkei or change any paint to make them stand out a bit more. | Chromed-up engine on Sunstreaker? Chrome light rack and Japanese police deco on Prowl?
Valkysas:
Hmmm...
I bet we'll be able to get a red Powerglide after all.
Basketball Jones:
The Henkei line does not seem to incorporate repaints, a significant departure for Takara.
Wonder which company will produce a Sideswipe first?
Draven:
Hmm If they chrome up Sunstreaker's engine, I'll get one. That's a worthy use of chrome (unlike, for instance, a bit of Grimlock's neck. I mean really. WTF).
BigRC83: Quote:
Originally Posted by fosterlager The Universe versions are scheduled for August, the BBTS Henkei preorders cite a September release. I like the timing, I'll be able to compare paint differences and get what I like better! | DITTO.
Velcrohead:
Hoping for a Henkei Thundercracker...that would be a nice "thanks" for Takara (though I'm sure those who have the Botcon version would be ill about it.)
atomicthumbs: Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkysas Hmmm...
I bet we'll be able to get a red Powerglide after all. | Nice call!
Glad these will be release so close to the Hasbro. Thanks for the news! This is going to save a lot of us some money!
Sure would like a Cliffjumper though.
Incepticon:
Still hoping they release Cliffjumper. I'd like one without silver flames & painted headlights.
Paladin:
Forgive the skeptic in me, but....
where's the proof????
Megatronwp38:
Nice. That seems like a good move for takara. they are realeasing their classics all as one line,unlike hasbro
Storm:
hmm, the hasbro version wouldbe cheaper, depends on wether they end up looking that different.
lookinglasself:
Hmm, I guess I'll have to wait for comparison pics of the two now. A red Powerglide would be sweet.
Darth Rodimus:
I am really split now, Animated or Henkei, I going towards all show Autobots and the best Cons like Leader Megs, Screamer, Skywarp, Soundwave
Hiro Prime: Quote:
Originally Posted by Basketball Jones The Henkei line does not seem to incorporate repaints, a significant departure for Takara.
Wonder which company will produce a Sideswipe first? | Give them a little more time, as Takara usually likes to have a good sellection of figures out before they start with repaints. I imagine that we'll see Skywarp and Cliffjumper before too long.
Hasbro will put them out first, followed shortly by Takara.
And I'd like to point out a little something about the Botcon seekers that many people may be forgetting... They sold them out. They aren't gonna release any more of them.
So it doesn't really hurt FP for Takara to release a Thundercracker, Thrust, or Dirge except for the aftermarket value of the set. Of course if Takara really cared about that, they wouldn't reissue older figures. Thundercracker could be done in the Anime Blue instead of the dark blue that FP did so as to not completely cheat FP's thunder and they can just as easilly make their own wings for the other two if they wanted. I think if FP was smart, they'd lease the wing mold for Thrust to them for some cash or discount on a future exclusive. Besides, there would be chrome parts on them which would mark them as different anyways.
That said, I own two sets of the Botcon sets and I could care less if they did them or not. I'd still buy a set from them just to add to my collection. If they did, they'd make a crapload of cash as they'd sell right out. so they'd be stupid not to. But that's just my opinion.
Fort Max:
Really cool to see such a short gap between releases again. It should be like this globally imo.
FREEFALL:
I hope for a red powerglide as well. AND a G1 colored Onslaught!!
B-Fox: Quote:
Originally Posted by FREEFALL I hope for a red powerglide as well. AND a G1 colored Onslaught!! | I agree on red Powerglide, but isn't Onslaught already colored like in G1? The Universe Ultra is dark blue and mustard-colored.
butz:
If they do a version of Powerglide, and its any other color than white (with red details) it'll probably be the one time I buy the Takara version of a Classics figure totally in lieu of the Hasbro version. Hasbro PG would be fine on his own, but with Jetfire and now Silverbolt, theres too many similarly colored airplane Autobots and PG is the odd man out (for me at least).
FREEFALL: Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Fox I agree on red Powerglide, but isn't Onslaught already colored like in G1? The Universe Ultra is dark blue and mustard-colored. |
Ya know, after comparing the two with pics online. You're right. But the new Universe one is lighter shade of blue (Although that might not be the case when the toy gets released) Maybe the Henkai version won't say SWAT all over it.
B-Fox: Quote:
Originally Posted by FREEFALL Ya know, after comparing the two with pics online. You're right. But the new Universe one is lighter shade of blue (Although that might not be the case when the toy gets released) Maybe the Henkai version won't say SWAT all over it. | Probably a surefire bet on that one. And his riot shield will be entirely made of CHROME! Vangelus:
Grats to japan!
I was afraid they'd have a similarly godawful long wait to get our Classics 2.0, after how long it took for them to get domestic Classics.
giga-galvatron:
I want Sunstorm and remold Bumper first!
Noisemaze:
That would be really sweet if they released Thundercracker,Thrust,Dirge & G1 accurate Skywarp. I could totally get rid of my Hasbro versions and give the finger to FP (which I always do anyway).
SmokescreenGT:
A red Powerglide would be awesome. I hope they announce that before I end up buying the white one. As far as Prowl and Sunstreaker are concerned, I'm not sure the differences will be enough for me to shell out more money when I can just pay $10 for the Hasbro versions. I'll have to wait and see some pics before deciding.
Obvious Prime: Quote:
Originally Posted by Noisemaze That would be really sweet if they released Thundercracker,Thrust,Dirge & G1 accurate Skywarp. I could totally get rid of my Hasbro versions and give the finger to FP (which I always do anyway). | Yes. Along with anyone who didn't go to Botcon '07. Myself included.
Paradigm-Shift Prime:
Neat. Two figs I wouldn't find having 2 variations of!
Ravenxl7:
Personally, I'll be sticking with the Hasbro versions. They'll be cheaper and easier for me to get. Even if Takara makes a mostly red Powerglide, I'll be sticking with Hasbro's (the white with red details deco doesn't bother me, even with multiple other similarly colored Autobot jets). The two major reasons I prefer the Hasbro versions of the Classics 1.0 figures is 1. They aren't slave-ish to their G1 counterparts decoes, and 2. They don't have randome and useless, imo, chromed parts.
Galaxy Convoy: Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiro Prime That said, I own two sets of the Botcon sets and I could care less if they did them or not. I'd still buy a set from them just to add to my collection. If they did, they'd make a crapload of cash as they'd sell right out. so they'd be stupid not to. But that's just my opinion. | Agreed. It's a cash cow just waiting to be milked. And I'm sure someone at Takara has had to have noticed how much they sell for on the secondary market.
Johnator:
I own a Botcon Thundercracker but releasing it Henkei style would be awesome. Count me in the "release red Powerglide" camp. Great news!
B-Fox:
Anybody know if anything came of that Henkei manga "Clone Seekers 01-05" thing? I assumed we'd be getting repaints of the generic Seekers (Sunstorm, etc,etc) based off that...
Rijie78:
Interesting, I'm also looking forward to seeing what the deco differences might be like between the Hasbro & Takara versions; especially as the Hasbro ones don't look too shabby to start with, from what we've seen so far.
The dodgy repaint filler like Blaster aside, these new Classics look to be designed infinitely better than the first series, which all looked a bit rubbishy IMO. I'm stoked that Prowl & Sunstreaker have a kind of mini-Alt thing going on (especially with Sunstreaker's Mirage-esqe legs), and Galvatron is rad despite his small size. Balljoint ankles on deluxes, it makes all the difference.
Backscatter:
Holy Hetrodyne! Prowl and Sunstreaker are AWESOME! EPIC WIN!
Obvious Prime:
I, for one, would love some classics generics. Even those lavender HoC dudes.
And the purple guy from MtMtE pt. 1 with the flame-thrower hand.
Liege Prime:
I really don't care about minor or even major paint app changes if the one Hasbro gave us is already pretty decent. Only Megatron in the first wave is really worth the change, and from what I've seen, I will have to agree that Powerglide is the only one that Hasbro seems to be messing up the main paint job with in the new waves.
Railguard: Quote:
Originally Posted by Liege Prime I really don't care about minor or even major paint app changes if the one Hasbro gave us is already pretty decent. Only Megatron in the first wave is really worth the change, and from what I've seen, I will have to agree that Powerglide is the only one that Hasbro seems to be messing up the main paint job with in the new waves. | I totally agree with you and I also have to say HASBRO RELEASE THESE DAMN THINGS ALREADY!! I'm tired of waiting!!!!! Oh and nice pic below your name Liege Prime!
butz:
I really hope (even though its pretty damned unlikely) that Takara gets into this whole Classics thing enough that they start doing some unique molds along with the repainted ones (think Robotmasters, but better).
Theres quite a few Japanese-only characters I'd love to see a Classics depiction of that I'm fairly certain Hasbro isn't going to commission (a Classics Star Saber, for example).
Devastattor:
Hope they use better materials on SS than the upcoming US release appears to have. The US version looks really plasticky from all the photos released. I assume that Takara will do it much better.
GreenScream:
kewl man. Really like the Henkei paint jobs, so will wait for these guys. Now D-05 Skywarp and D-06 Thundercracker.
PoweredConvoy: Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastattor Hope they use better materials on SS than the upcoming US release appears to have. The US version looks really plasticky from all the photos released. I assume that Takara will do it much better. | Not that there's probably anything wrong with Hasbro's plastic, but HenKei Bumblebee's car mode is painted (it's hard to tell because the color is so close, but it's a lot more glittery than the other yellow parts) so Sunstreaker may be the same.
Randy
Fosterlager: Quote:
Originally Posted by PoweredConvoy Not that there's probably anything wrong with Hasbro's plastic, but HenKei Bumblebee's car mode is painted (it's hard to tell because the color is so close, but it's a lot more glittery than the other yellow parts) so Sunstreaker may be the same.
Randy | Yeah, yellow plastic is hard to make not look like plastic, unless you add orange tint to it like Movie Bumblebee.
A Henkei maroon/silver deco is the only thing that could possibly make 'ol Powerglide more pimp. airfox: Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiro Prime So it doesn't really hurt FP for Takara to release a Thundercracker, Thrust, or Dirge except for the aftermarket value of the set. | If any hypothetical (sp?) Henkei seekers are exactly the same as the ones from FP for a fraction of the cost, it could hurt FP. Not hurt them on last year's Botcon set's sales, but on future sets. Just remember what happened when Glen started dropping the price on the Exclusive HoC Troop Builder set for example.
If the toys are different (lighter blue on Tcracker, different wing deco, etc.), we're talking similar but different exclusives. That's what I see Takara doing. Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiro Prime I think if FP was smart, they'd lease the wing mold for Thrust to them for some cash or discount on a future exclusive. Besides, there would be chrome parts on them which would mark them as different anyways. | IIRC, FP owned molds are made with a material (alluminum?) that's (a) cheaper and (b) takes fewer reuses. For all we know, Thrust wings' toolings may be gone forever by now.
-airfox
Fit For natalie: Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Hmm If they chrome up Sunstreaker's engine, I'll get one. That's a worthy use of chrome (unlike, for instance, a bit of Grimlock's neck. I mean really. WTF). | Crazily enough, the neck chroming was in Hasbro's original deco plan for their Grimlock. They then replaced it with the random paint wash due to cost, apparently, which is why they only bothered to paint wash that one section. Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiro Prime I think if FP was smart, they'd lease the wing mold for Thrust to them for some cash or discount on a future exclusive. Besides, there would be chrome parts on them which would mark them as different anyways. | I think Glen told us that back when 3H had the convention license, to save money (and the expectation that convention exclusive toys are only made in limited numbers anyway), they generally used aluminium or some other kind of cheaper metal for new parts tooling, and at the end of the convention run the tooling is in too poor condition to be reused.
Given how cost-concious FP is, I don't see this changing with them, so if TakaraTomy do the other coneheads, they'll need to come up with the parts toolings themselves.
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