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| Tokyo Toy Show: Images of MP-07 Thundercracker, Alternity GT-R Convoy, & Henkei |
| Posted on 06-19-2008 at 09:57 AM by Tim Formas | | Fantofan.jp has posted images from the 2008 Tokyo Toy Show, at which several upcoming Transformers items were shown off. The previously reported Nissan GT-R that has been solicited is actually for a new Transformers line from TakaraTomy called Transformers Alternity and the Nissan GT-R will be Convoy (Optimus Prime) and will be available in two colors (Ultimate Metal Silver and Vibrant Red). The first look at MP-07 Thundercracker is shown, as well as images of the upcoming Transformers Henkei (Japanese Classics) figures. The Henkei pictures also show off a prototype of Henkei Ratchet, which appears to be a repaint/remold of the Universe/Henkei Ironhide figure. Pictures can be seen at the FanToFan.jp link above or by clicking on the picture to the left.
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Originally Posted by WhiteMocha  Oh, and I don't know what this thing is, but it's awesome.  | That is the reason Bandai are the No.1 toy company in Japan!  Quote:
Originally Posted by jnmx2000 this by far looks like one of the coolest transformers toy to come along in a long time, I don't get why everyone is down on this guy, he looks amazing! | Me neither, oh wait yes I do, it's scale, price and character choice. Scale is a bit of a bummer but hey these will go great with both classics and the movie figures (of which there are plenty) so they'll be loads of guys for him to hang out with. Character choice doesn't bother me, I buy TF's because they're fascinating to me mechanically not because they're character x or y. If you are bothered by it then it's easily changed.
As for Price, well this I am down on. On the one hand it's an awesomely detailed deluxe scale Alternator with a full interior (probably) steering and a clever transformation that reduces the width of the front. On the other hand it's a deluxe toy that costs the same money as a Voyager, I hope (read: pray) that it'll actually be diecast but I'm not going to hold my breath. Otehr then that we're just going to have to wait and see why this costs so much and determine it's worth accordingly. Chances are though that I'll be getting this and then eagerly awaiting the next, if there even is one, Takara seems to have been having some trouble lately and genuinely new figures from them have become a rarity. Quote:
Originally Posted by optimus major and also if you look at the pic where the gt-r is with bumblebee, then compare it to the main gt-r pic....you will notice SIGNIFIGANT differences
i think the gt-r will be alt sized, and the one with bumblebee was just a test figure to practice transformation sceme and automorph (do they have that?) | That looks like it's just a mock up, probably a photo they took earlier in the production process and decided to re-use. Quote:
Originally Posted by Scourge_151 WOW!
Convoy as a GTR is mine as soon as is possible, deluxe-size and fitting in with movie figs is an extremely nice bonus.
I'll take mine in red thankyouverymuch | QFT, red for the win! 
So to sum up I think this is awesome and will be ordering in due course. In the meantime could someone get the lowdown on this from Hasbro at TFcon? Maybe they're already planning to use it to bolster the movie/25 Aniversary line.
Ravenxl7:
Thundercracker actually looks pretty good, but the only thing there that interests me is the new Alternity Optimus Prime. I'm actually kinda hoping that Hasbro brings that over here. Out of the two paint-jobs that Takara's releasing, the one I would probably like most to come over here is the silver one, but depending on what it looks like, the red one might actually look better in the end.
Noisemaze: Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteMocha
Oh, and I don't know what this thing is, but it's awesome. | Out of that whole page, THAT'S the one thing that caught my eye! I don't know what it is but I WANT IT!!!!  Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundwave2 JumboWhale, from the current Go-Onger Sentai (Power Rangers) in Japan. | Power Rangers eh? Not bad!
cypherstorm:
Yeah I agree.. might be a bit bigger than previously thought.... compare the size to the size of the guys hand in the reflection, not bumblebee... i think it is binaltech size. YAY! Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutcrusher Hold on a minute, everyone. If we look at this picture, it looks like an Alternator sized bot compared to the person in the mirror. The picture with Bumblebee might not mean anything, unless the caption quite literally says that it is to the scale.  | SMOG:
The GTR looks pretty awesome in general. The robot mode is SWEEEET.
Yeah, it's Convoy... AGAIN. But a slight head mod or swap, and that silver version becomes a kickass Jazz, so that doesn't bother me too much.
Scale is still a confusing question... and with the price attached to it, it would be a deal breaker for me. I think Hasbro really should look at bringing out a more mass-market version of this mold, otherwise we're gonna have another Aveo debacle.
zmog
Fort Max:
That's just a reflection, it's not something you could use to make an accurate size assessment.
Chainclaw:
I'm getting the GT-R in both colours whether they're deluxe or voyager. If the GT-R is a deluxe however, it has an impressively detailed interior.
Feralstorm:
In recent (Tomy) years, Takara has been doing an excellent job of making stuff that interests me, but turns me away upon closer inspection.
Classics toys with more G1-accurate color and chrome parts? Count me i... Aw that's a shame.
New, smaller Alternator? Hey that's... Is THAT it? ... It's another Convoy ya say? ... Well, that's just ... never mind.
Of course, I'm one of those weird guys who don't like a zillion tiny fiddly bits and the 225-step transformations Takara enjoys for their home market toys.
Oh well, welcome, Alternity G2 Go-bot Optimus Prime for those that want him. Max-prime:
Pre-ordered both GT-R ... reguradless of size the detail looks really good.
stevej:
MP Thundercracker will be mine. No worries there.
As for this Nissan. Erm... What is the point? I mean... It's like someone said "you know what we need - we need a new line that sits right in the middle of Classics, the movie line and Binaltech. That'll sell to collectors of all of the above!"
Of course what Einstein didn't realise was that by being out of scale with BT, a lot of BT collectors won't be interested (like me) and then by making it Convoy of all characters then it's not going to sit too well with EITHER movie OR Classics collections. I mean, lets say I actually collected Classics would I really need to buy Prowl and Convoy and then think I'd also like a Convoy that looks a bit like Prowl?
So... Is this a new line? If so will we see the same old characters trudged out again? Or is it just something Takara had to do because of a licencing agreement that was dawn up before BT went on haitus? Or something similar to that Chevy TF but that's more available?
Sorry to be negative but until I see where the rest of this line can go then color me completely uninterested. Takara have a habit of starting new toylines... Doing Convoy, Megs, a white Prime repaint and Hod Rod and then killing the line. Which is a bit like getting into a great new TV show and then seeing it cancelled after half a season. On a cliffhanger.
One for the Completists and Convoy-fetishists methinks until Takara can prove otherwise.
Steve.
Elvin Pena: Quote:
Originally Posted by SMOG The GTR looks pretty awesome in general. The robot mode is SWEEEET. | Amen! That thing looks amazing!
jnmx2000: Quote:
Originally Posted by Fort Max Me neither, oh wait yes I do, it's scale, price and character choice. Scale is a bit of a bummer but hey these will go great with both classics and the movie figures (of which there are plenty) so they'll be loads of guys for him to hang out with. Character choice doesn't bother me, I buy TF's because they're fascinating to me mechanically not because they're character x or y. If you are bothered by it then it's easily changed.
As for Price, well this I am down on. On the one hand it's an awesomely detailed deluxe scale Alternator with a full interior (probably) steering and a clever transformation that reduces the width of the front. On the other hand it's a deluxe toy that costs the same money as a Voyager, I hope (read: pray) that it'll actually be diecast but I'm not going to hold my breath. Otehr then that we're just going to have to wait and see why this costs so much and determine it's worth accordingly. Chances are though that I'll be getting this and then eagerly awaiting the next, if there even is one, Takara seems to have been having some trouble lately and genuinely new figures from them have become a rarity.
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I think the one awesome looking one pictured is the one we will be getting, not the one pictured with BB. the one pictured with BB looks like crap, the one pictured on display looks amazing. if what we get is the one on display i'll gladly pay 50 bucks for it, if it's the one with BB, I'll almost feel cheated because it looks NOTHING like the one on display.
MrFX:
MP Thundercracker! SOLD
Henkei Streak, Streaker, 'hide, 'bolt and Rachet? SOLD
Binaltech Convoy? *holds onto his pre-order for the minute* I'm going to cancel if I don't like how the final presentation looks. I can see him being kitbashed into Camshaft, easily.
Fort Max:
That's just a reflection, it's not something you could use to make an accurate size assessment.
Vangelus:
Alternity looks like a really cool idea (Alternators on a mainline-Deluxe scale), but if they truly do cost $45 apiece I'd have to see one in person first.
Henkei Chrome continues to turn me off...the applications are getting a lot better, but then stuff like Prowl's spoiler still shows up.  SideSwipe82:
What a waste if the gtr is called convoy. I know alot of ppl could just swap the head and call it blue streak/prowl or even jazz. Ufortunately, in tf history, it will always be remembered as convoy. Doesn't takara know that the gtr has no resemblence to any optimus primes? That car suits best for prowl/bluesteak/or smokescreen or maybe jazz. Hope Hasbro USA will rename him just like they did with BT overdrive to ALT windcharger.
artiepants: Quote:
Originally Posted by Vangelus Henkei Chrome continues to turn me off...the applications are getting a lot better, but then stuff like Prowl's spoiler still shows up. | i know, those Chrome Spoilers just totally ruin it for me. (and why they'd do the spoilers instead of the wheels?)
Silent_Magnus: Quote:
Originally Posted by optimus major lol it seems they did....what did they do...sleep thru botcon? 
i am just messin with ya folls...seriously....how did you miss ironhide and all this.....it was on the front page and in the botcon threads.....oh well | The big deal is we get to see their henkei decos.
So now people will have an easier time deciding whether or not to pick up the domestic release or import the henkei version.
On a different note I find that Convoy head to be pretty cool.
Reminds me of of the Bat Optimus Primal's head.
Although if they don't make a Megatron that's a different mold then there is no way I'm picking up.
artiepants: Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent_Magnus The big deal is we get to see their henkei decos.
So now people will have an easier time deciding whether or not to pick up the domestic release or import the henkei version. | no, all me and Optimas Major were talking about was it seemed like several folks in the thread had totally missed that there was a Hasbro Bluestreak at all on deck (and one person even had missed Ironhide).
but there is a lot to keep up with these days  Zie: Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutcrusher Hold on a minute, everyone. If we look at this picture, it looks like an Alternator sized bot compared to the person in the mirror. The picture with Bumblebee might not mean anything, unless the caption quite literally says that it is to the scale. | See that thing to the left of the picture? Barely on screen with the little yellow dot surrounded by black?
That's Voyager Megatron, and even as far away as he is, he's still big compared to the Convoy figure.
The picture with BB is to show the intended size, to confirm that it's not going to be an Alt class figure. It will have all their detail, authenticity and complexity, but in a deluxe scale figure. There's no way in hell that things a 1/24th scale figure.
And while he does look great, imo, I'm going to wait for more information, more details, and maybe even a review before I plunk down 50+shipping on it. Though it is more then welcomed to join my Auto-bot ranks.
IronhideTF:
*cries extremly loudly out of happiness of my Favoritistististisitistisitistist car and it's a transformer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *cry
Dropshot:
The GTR is amazing, I would've made it Prowl. It will look sweet in silver.
juise: Quote:
Originally Posted by IronhideTF *cries extremly loudly out of happiness of my Favoritistististisitistisitistist car and it's a transformer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *cry | One body style to late for me. I prefer the older Skyline GTR34 body style.
I wasn't expecting Powerglide to be so OMG HUGE. I will probably be buying one of everything pictured.
PS
Based on the name "Alternity" to me it looks like a way for Takara to bring "Alternators" to Japan.
Perhaps this new line will shut everyone up who claims that the main reason for "end" of the Alt/BT line was licensing fees.
Poho:
that alternator/binaltech mold looks AWESOME!!!!
dr.b:
I'm impressed.I hated the Henkai Power Glide they came out with before.The red was terrible,but the figure I just saw looks a lot better.Also,does anyone have
info on this new "Alternity" line coming out?
RHansen:
its not an alt/bt people....
Poho: Quote:
Originally Posted by RHansen its not an alt/bt people.... | forgive me for being retarded
AlanGarou:
Dear Primus, another Convoy pickup truck? How about we get some new Binaltech characters, instead of five different molds of a misnamed Optimus? Seriously, what is with Takara lately?
Liege Prime: Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanGarou Dear Primus, another Convoy pickup truck? How about we get some new Binaltech characters, instead of five different molds of a misnamed Optimus? Seriously, what is with Takara lately? | I am pretty sure Takara feels "Convoy" is a line all its own.
Switchblade: Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanGarou Dear Primus, another Convoy pickup truck? How about we get some new Binaltech characters, instead of five different molds of a misnamed Optimus? Seriously, what is with Takara lately? | It's not another truck, this time it's Convoy as a Nissan GTR sports car.
And of course Takara is milking Convoy. He's the most popular character in the franchise and Takara does its best to put out as many versions of him as possible each year. They've been doing so for ages now.
Max-prime: Quote:
Originally Posted by Liege Prime I am pretty sure Takara feels "Convoy" is a line all its own. | And they'd be right lol.
videriant: Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimpimus Prime Is it just me, or is the GT-R smaller than previous Binaltech/Alternator toys? Looking at the one picture, his head isn't much higher than Movie Bumblebee's. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutcrusher Hold on a minute, everyone. If we look at this picture, it looks like an Alternator sized bot compared to the person in the mirror. The picture with Bumblebee might not mean anything, unless the caption quite literally says that it is to the scale. | Maybe movie 2 bumblebee is a voyager. =D
benzo:
Thundercracker looks sweet!!
Johnator:
ALL of these rule! Wow this is going to be such a great year. The Henkei stuff looks especially impressive!
chuckcjc: Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutcrusher Hold on a minute, everyone. If we look at this picture, it looks like an Alternator sized bot compared to the person in the mirror. The picture with Bumblebee might not mean anything, unless the caption quite literally says that it is to the scale.
| OK, I have read the News Page, read the FantoFan page, and read this whole thread. Where is this picture of the new Convoy compared to Bumblebee, and which Bumblebee is it? Where do people get 1/32 scale? The News page makes no mention of deluxe size.
Just curious, because Binaltech at Deluxe size is a dream come true for me. I love Binaltech, but damn, they are just too big, and take up too much room on any display.
Fosterlager: Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckcjc OK, I have read the News Page, read the FantoFan page, and read this whole thread. Where is this picture of the new Convoy compared to Bumblebee, and which Bumblebee is it? Where do people get 1/32 scale? The News page makes no mention of deluxe size.
Just curious, because Binaltech at Deluxe size is a dream come true for me. I love Binaltech, but damn, they are just too big, and take up too much room on any display. |  Josh:
so its gonna be made at both alternator and deluxe sizes??
chuckcjc: Quote:
Originally Posted by fosterlager | Lol, the one pic I didn't look at because I thought it was from a videogame or something. Sweet. Thanks !
artiepants: Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh so its gonna be an alternator at deluxe-ish size. | fixed for ya Max-prime: Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh so its gonna be made at both alternator and deluxe sizes?? | No just one size .... just from the side by side they went with a more "blocky" look ( trad. robot ) which is making it look bigger next to the movie bee ( more human looking ) .
Infosaur:
NOooooooo, NOT ANOTHER PRIME!!! Grrrrr!.
Hmmm what can I re-cast him as?
Also I hope the art on those SW boxes aren't an indicator of the quality of animation we'll be getting from the new Clone Wars series? Ugh!
PoweredConvoy: Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs The points on the tail fins are sharper and thinner on the Takara version. Aside from that the difference is the price. | The Takara one has a Decepticon symbol on his nosecone and his burn marks on his back are much silver (not dark gray) and much lighter in over coverage.
Randy
nawhaley:
Ugh I feel the same way about ANOTHER seeker. Getting the same toy 3 times in different colors isn't all that fun to me I'd rather see another mold. I admit the blue looks very nice all the colors looked nice but I can't warrant 100 a pop for repaints its just to steep . Now had it been grimlock like some rumors I heard I would of been ALL over it *sigh*.
Incepticon:
Wasn't there some sort of rumor or hint @ BotCon from Aaron Archer that Hasbro may release MP Thundercracker as part of their Transformers 25th Anniversary figures? That could be worth investigating a bit more if it means a difference of paying $100+ for Takara's version vs. a way more affordable Hasbro version.
Darth Rodimus: Quote:
Originally Posted by Incepticon Wasn't there some sort of rumor or hint @ BotCon that Hasbro may release MP Thundercracker as part of their Transformers 25th Anniversary figures? That could be worth investigating a bit more if it means a difference of paying $100+ for Takara's version vs. a way more affordable Hasbro version. | Or Grimlock, I think they should do Grimlock instead (or Soundwave.)
i would love a
Masterpiece Ratchet (He was very important in the Marvel comics.) and I love Ratchet more than any other Bot.
REDLINE: Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowStitch Remember: Once upon a time they DID make some smaller Alternator molds for test shots, for a potential smaller line. They didn't go with them, but the possibility is there, as distasteful as it sounds to us BT/Alt enthusiasts. Although they did make a WST-sized Autolooper, so it's not beyond the realm of feasibility that they would release two different sized versions of the mold...time will tell.
Me, I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for full 1:24 scale, but I'll buy it even if it's smaller. Scale isn't really realistic anyways: I have MP Prime standing next to my MP seekers even though in reality a semi truck is about 1/3 the length of a F-15.
I'm not going to conjecture on the figure's identity, in either supposed color repaint. I'll find out when it gets here.
Everyone: If you'll notice, in the F2F photos, Onslaught is marked "TRANSFORMERS - USA EDITION" and his placard bears the Hasbro Transformers logo instead of the HENKEI! logo. Some of the others are marked Henkei, but they don't have "finished" paint apps either.
I'm taking this to mean that the chromed up versions of Galvatron and Octane aren't finished enough for display, though the molds themselves are. Like you, I'd be really surprised if Tankor...er...Octane doesn't end up with a chromed tank.
As always, this is a preliminary toy show displaying prototypes, so I wouldn't necessarily take this display as an accurate representation of the final products.
And as for MP-07 Thundercracker? The one on display is obviously a painted prototype, so I wouldn't put much stock in that being the final coloration. It's always possible they're simply copying the Skywarp mold -- all one color with heavy gloss, but in blue plastic instead, but that remains to be seen. In any case, for me it's a definite sale no matter what. | I would, because that's how they did both SS and SW.
Dark_Convoy: Quote:
Originally Posted by nawhaley Ugh I feel the same way about ANOTHER seeker. Getting the same toy 3 times in different colors isn't all that fun to me I'd rather see another mold. I admit the blue looks very nice all the colors looked nice but I can't warrant 100 a pop for repaints its just to steep . Now had it been grimlock like some rumors I heard I would of been ALL over it *sigh*. | Blasphemy!!!
I have been wanting all three G1 seekers from years now and come November, I will finally complete them!
AutobotEngineer:
GTR is awesome, but I don't think I'll import it, even though I'm finally out of school and working. Too much change for too little figure.
Classics look fantastic though...Ironhide is the most exciting figure of the line, I think. GREAT toy, GREAT character and not at all overdone...a triple threat, and a rarity.
Also:
What is this? http://www.fantofan.jp/news/event/to...8/DSC00383.jpg |
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