Xovergen Trailerforce-01 Colored Prototype Images

Very Interesting....

Just to provide a visual:



It's basically ball jointed feet, that thing on the grill, and a new bumper.

Also, if you don't know what we're talking about look here:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-...images-174589/

and here:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-...rce-01-174559/

If they are doing a complete retool, then make it have an openable chest compartment with removable matrix.

Feets look like eskimo shoes..

The only retool of this mold I would be interested in is one that re-locates the enormous arm panels.

Are they really looking to release a modified KO or just simply offer replacement parts for your existing fig?

I think nobody has figured it out yet. These pictures are old, actually, they were shown BEFORE the recent ones where we can see what appears to be a henkey OP KO made to accomodate the powermaster figure.

Having to use a shitty KO Prime for this = Bullshit.

Seems an odd choice to design armor around an existing figure, then sell it with a KO of that figure. I get that it might expand their potential customer base, but then why even stick with the Classics Voyager design at all? (Unless previous design decisions forced their hand of course).

Still, I thought I knew what this product was (posable PM trailer for Classics/Henkei OR G1 Optimus) and now it's just a weird, line-blurring thing.

I'm curious to see why a knockoff of an existing figure is necessary for this release rather than, oh I don't know, just the official figure itself or a brand new mold.

I'm suddenly a bit less enthusiastic for this release since I am not terribly interested in paying a higher price to acquire an armor kit that includes a knockoff of a figure I already own two of (speaking just to Henkei Prime).

I'll wait for more info, but this is a little weird.

If what you're saying is correct, then we have no worries. Although we don't know for certain. I'm going to wait on this one.

This is an odd move.

Not sure if gusta.....

they should sell the armor by itself without the stupid figure to keep the costs down.

If they gonna Ko something, why not KO the original PM prime Cab and add in articulation, that will be something. Classic prime just don't look PM..

Exactly, and the fact that I get this sinking feeling that the KO Prime is going to be a big honking piece of shit.

This.

What's the problem here? It seems to me that you can either use G1 Prime, Classics/Henkei Prime OR their "KO Prime" figure in the Trailerforce Armor depending on which you want to use... my assumption is that the trailer comes with whatever you need to retrofit your Classics Prime and then you'll be able to buy the KO Prime by itself if you need it (or just plain don't like how the retrofit bumper looks)

I would rather see a whole new take on Prime for a classics PM rather than reusing this mold.

Need more info before making any final call, but does this not really kind of cross into that bad IP stealing territory with the retooled classics Prime?

They just posted pics on their facebook. LEDs for the guns, and eyes. Eyes not shown. YOu can also see the part that makes G1 prime work with the head as well as some painted parts.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3213904&type=1

So t his project will be even more complicated and ambitious than their first.

Yeah, I'm not buying this until hordes of people review it and give the QC a thumbs up.

Well isn't that just...spiffy....now the price will be ridonculous...

You checked how much a Classics Optimus Prime or Henkei Convoy goes for these days?

I think they're trying to provide an option for those that would like the trailer and don't already own the mold.

This doesn't seem to be rocket science....

sounds about right, metaphorge. but this fandom, like most, is crawling with hyper-reactionary types who don't bother thinking beyond their initial reaction. *shrug*

it's nice of these guys to think of it, but I would agree they probably should have done a bit more work than a vaguely modded copy of the classics mold. that -will- most likely cause them trouble. especially with the fandom's blabberjaws types who do things like continually shove the 3rd party stuff in hasblo's face nearly every botcon the past few years during the Q&A sessions.

I understand why this thing exists. I really like the plastic used, no clear arm panels so less chance for paint chipping, they'll just be molded. If it's sold separately, great idea if the cost is under 40 bucks for it, bottom line...Past that, you're better off nabbing a Classics or Henkei.

Definite must have. Wonder what the price is gonna be?

I've read you can use your original power master optimus prime cab. If that's the case I may be interested. If it transformers with the trailer as well.

If this is just an option so people who don't own classics or henkei prime can get one relatively inexpensively and still get the trailerforce kit too, then props to them.

If this means I can't use my powermaster/classics/henkei prime with trailerforce and need to buy their KO toy just to get it to function, no thank you.

I'm pretty interested in trailerforce but this would be a huge turn off if their KO was a necessary component for it.

I think it's pretty clear that -any- Classics/Henkei Prime will fit into the trailer just fine, but you'll need the modified front-end to comfortably fit the Powermaster onto the grill. The ankles're just an added bonus.

I mean, really, all you do is Transform Prime into alt mode, remove the roof/cannon, slide him into the super-robot chest, and bend Prime's legs down at the knees.

Exactly. I'm also confused where people are getting the idea that this would come with the trailer instead of being available separately - none of the news I have seen has indicated one way or the other. Given that the original authentic Op/Convoy is expensive, it would be more likely that this is offered as a cheaper option available separately.

did not they release a pic w/ the original classic mold attached to the chest..i vaguely remember a pic showing the back and how the original mold looked with the feet hanging

The feet kinda freak me out, but maybe it's just the mockup colors. As a PM Prime fan I'm excited about this idea, though after glaring over at my Grand Patriot I'm going to wait for someone here to review this whole thing before plunking down cash.

Dont know why theres all the reactionary hate towards a potential cab (oh wait... TF fans, i forgot) id rather not fuck up my henkei prime (a mold im proud to own every variant of bar crystal convoy). This thing, if its even part of the kit, could be a block, doesnt transform, just fits in perfectly and does the job of the other figures, without modding an expensive figure or acquiring a G1 figure. I never displayed the cab seperately with my old PM Prime, i dont know why this would be an issue. and as for keeping the cost down, its a fecking big articulated trailer/robot, its going to be expensive, im sure theyve considered this

sick of the pennypinching attitude of people. if you think its too expensive when the price is ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED, dont buy it.

After Grand Patriot and the massive waste of my money, i wouldnt touch this unless Peaugh does some kind of one sided, gushingly positive review

I'm okay with this, seeing how I don't have any version of the mold.

Xovergen has posted art of their concept Ginrai on their Facebook page.


It seems that this will be completely different then Classics Prime.

That's another thing that ticks me off about Xovergen. Their idea of "concept art" is really just "hey check out this picture I drew".

To me, concept art should be a schematic with some of the more fine details (possible views for transformation, etc).

Its starting to remind me a hell of a lot of Igear and their releases. Losing respect for Xovergen the more they do things the way Igear does.

It looks like Classics Prime with arm mod form the tutorial section that puts the kibble on his back.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/tutori...ification.html

That's ok in my book since I don't have a classics Prime either. I'm not overpaying someone on ebay because of Hasbro's crappy distribution.

Still definitely interested in this, especially now that a cab can come with it, but also wary of the quality still. I'll have to wait for reviews first, but I understand them wanting to release a KO Optimus figure to increase their customer base, since the original figure is pretty pricey nowadays.

Meh, it may or may not be required to use their Prime with the armor, but i'm more inclined to do so since the only version of the mold I have in Prime colors is the Henkei Crystal Convoy from '08.

I kind of disagree with the first post, creating a knock off of a figure isn't really stepping up their game. I hope Hasbro cracks down on things like this and the smaller masterpiece Prime "3rd party" ko. Creating add-ons is one thing.

This.

Do you mean in the sense of IP infringement? At least iGear's stuff aren't steaming piles of shit.

More in terms of announcing their next projects way before they should. We've seen it form Igear that these things fall through sometimes. Its usually not good to promote something until you have a clear prototype mock up that is hopefully 3-4 months away from production.

It's been about what? seven or eight years since the toy mold came out?
I for one don't have a spare around and I shutter to think about on-line prices.

this is a good move on their part. It just made me a customer.

Interesting...

^ This would be a very nice touch.

TBH I got a KO UM a while back for my CC Trailer... the cheaper one, not the KOLD version that was overpriced at some 40+ bucks... The head's kinda meh, and the Clear Plastic on the Arm kibble was pretty weak/brittle... for the price of 12 bucks, it's not bad at all tbh. The rest of the figure is pretty solid otherwise. I've since gotten an official UM tho, thankfully.

Yea, I'd excercise caution if they didn't learn much from the Patriot they made a while back...

^ THIS. Any version of the Classics Prime mold rarely shows up on eBay being sold for under 50$. Then there's the Henkei Version, which would work FAR better due to the Chromed parts... but that one's even pricier/rarer now. Also, not everyone will want to modify their figures to add the new bits that are seemingly necessary to adapt him into the Trailerforce suit.

Long as the modified Prime has the Arm kibble fix (I'd say keep the screw mounts since they serve as 5mm ports quite nicely tho), and what thedreaded1 suggested... It'd be worth it.

If reviews for their retooled Prime are good... and it's under 40$... I think I'd grab it. Over that, and it'd not be much different than buying one of the KOLD KOs, which are just direct rips from the Classics mold anyway.

Well, tweaked a good bit... I dig the ball jointed feet, and like others mentioned, it seems they might've done the arm kibble fix. Course this is just a concept sketch... so who knows what the eventual result turns out to be.

I just thought about something... looking at the prototype pic of the cab, it doesn't look like there are lines/seperations with the arm panels from the main cab. What if the KO Prime, is literally just a non-transforming cab to go inside of the powermaster armor and pull it as a trailer? That makes me feel better, as it wouldn't drive the price up as much as a full blown transformer.

Why did they even bother with incorporating classics prime into this mold? From what I've seen its not necessary and it would take little effort to fill in the gap. Maybe I'm missing the point of it but I just don't see why they are shoe horning this in.

Well, they could fill the gap, but it's an homage to a toy with a Prime cab inside, so I can see why they'd want to make sure everyone has a Prime cab to put into that space, and since Classics Prime is the most recent version at a decent size/look, I can see why they chose that cab.