WTF @ TFW - 63 - October 1 2009

Hey...I like Metal Gear Solid 2

As did I! But the plot was ridiculous and unsalvageable.

Word of advice people: Those WTF@TFW Genetic Brandings hurt.

BTW, none of us were cutting Seth off, his Audio track is delayed a little for some reason.

I think Bay & Co threw the logic rule book out the window a long time ago and they will spend nothing in TF3 trying to explain anything. Bay reminds me of a little child in his movie making were he will just throw in everything and anything that immediately comes to mind without thinking how it's all going to line up and make sense. I think your giving these people way to much credit thinking that they will try and go back and make sense of anything they've done before.

I'm excited for Bludgeon. Just not $120 excited. xp

I loved that discussion you guys had on the last listener question. I agreed with Gog Dog's point that the conflict between the Autobots and Decepticons is crucial to the story, but does not have to be the main focus.

The idea of a story focusing around the origins of that conflict is one that I have actually wanted to see told myself. I like the idea of a Transformers series aimed at older audiences, making it a little more dramatic rather then cartoonish and aimed at children. I have also considered the idea of a series based around perhaps a second Great War, where the Autobots had one the first war. The idea would be something like the Decepticons have been thought to be long gone, either they integrated into the Autobots or died out, either way the Decepticons are thought to passed into history. Then one day there is a terrorist like bombing of an Autobot military outpost, or a civilian building where we would follow the characters who are sent to investigate this bombing (and continue to follow them as they uncover the deeper layers of the mystery) and discover signs that it was done by Decepticons. Like a 'Con symbol burned into the wall with some sort of slogan, or a badge or icon in the ruble.

I would see it being sort of a smaller cast like in Animated, you know following a character like say Nightbeat or someone a little lesser known, and their team as they stumble across the re-emergence of the Decepticons ready to plunge Cybertron into a new war.

Well, that is just my thoughts on a more mature Transformers series that I know Hasbro is probably never even going to look at, let a lone do.

I thought that Vangelus' idea of a series focusing on the united Cybertronian race over throwing the Quintessons, and then following as the different factions emerge as the Cybertronians frature into two different ideological hemispheres. Something exploring the actually ideology of each faction, like what do they stand for other then the typical good vs. bad sort of stuff. As well as you know seeing relationships, like maybe something like Thundercracker and Bluestreak being best friend before the war, but an incident after the defeat of the Quintessons drives a wedge between them that forces them to choose sides and end their friendship.

Though again, I think we will never see a TV series that would follow themes and story arcs like this. We might be lucky and someday someone might take a stab at with a comic series, but even then I doubt it.

I think it is a little sad that Hasbro won't do this, but I suppose there is no point in really crying over milk that will never be spilt.

You are going to poop on me for talking games with all that game stuff in you sig? But don't fear I have almost nothing to do with the MGS talk.

Keep it clean!

I have no problem with you talking about games, its just you are never happy/nor praise them when you talk about games. Its makes me cry.

Its just too much to handle, too much I say

Anyone who is worse than I at a video game is a shitty loser and sucks. Anyone who is better than I at a video game has no life and is a cheater. The only people I respect are those at my level, whom I just beat.

No fear! No pain! Not my favorite theme, but it is rocking. And anything's better than the Ultraman Gaia opening theme.

I really have no desire whatsoever to dwell on TF3 or Michael Bay or most certainly not Megan Fox, haha. Maybe next year!

Never played any Metal Gear game due to lack of the "awesome" consoles (only Wii for now). Or Chrono Trigger! But I would fully endorse and listen to a totally-off-topic video game TFW episode or even series, were Vangelus inspired/crazy enough to try it.

You know, that last listener question discussion didn't mention the Japanese stuff that we've gotten. Violen Jiger and Legion, for example, are quite out there. But considering how simple/WTF those stories get, and that they don't delve into what sets them apart from Decepticons, I like the answers you guys had to share much, much more.

Originally Posted by Omnius If the licence plate says 'FRESH' and it has a dice in the mirror, then yes it's rare.