Greetings from The Fall of Cybertron Elite!

We usually hang out at gamefaqs and don't interact a lot with the greater Transformers community, but hopefully that will change now that FoC has sort of become a retro game that only TF fans are interested in.

I mean when you have clans making weird videos like these, then the game has GOT to be something special....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Y99Cc8Ad8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glAD_E_dWSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOV4QbB_r9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M8_5N1GKGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XGBExzmMmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNiZ_TqBIXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHFcp9TeZAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRYJSBBceyw

Come play in our world!

 

lol funny you say that, I just bought Transformers: The Cybertron Experience on Xbox 360. It comes with WFC and FOC and all it's DLC for $19.99. my gamer tag is OPTIMUSxCRIMES. I'm mostly on Xbox One now, but until they make the High Moon Games Backwards compatibiity, i'm still around

 

Wow, that's a great deal. We're mostly on the PS3 version. We never hear anything out of the XBox or PC community. I assume it must be mostly dead. Their forums never really took off. Let us know what it's like over there.

 

I own it on PC, haven't had the chance to play it yet due to technical difficulties.

 

I have both FoC and WfC, I play them from time-to-time. My gamertag is Elitemaster1995.  

 

I actually just got the same bundle, but honestly FOC is that great a game. It's okay.

 

Hackers, unbalanced weapons, perks, and even classes. Uninspired map design that often jumps between open snipe fests to destroyers noobtubing at point blank.

Did I say hackers? Yeah, fun playing when there's aimbots and people using Vortex' campaign ability with no cooldown.

 

Retro? How old are you, kid?

 

The hacker thing is limited to PC. I've been on the PS3 for 3+ years and I've only seen three hackers in all that time. And even that's limited to the infinite ammo/no reload hack from that hacking site for jailbroken ps3s. Those guys each disappeared after a week. So there's next to no hacking on the ps3.

As far as map design? After spending over a year in Destiny pvp, I think the FoC map designs are great. I'm not sure what your problem with snipers are. There's only one true sniper in the game and it's a charge rifle that requires a headshot to one shot (unlike BattleFront's Pulse Cannon). I honestly wish more people had the guts to play infiltrator.

Weapon balancing? Eh, it's a matter of opinion. It's not as bad as Destiny pvp used to be, where you either use a shotgun or you die. I've always said that I believe that FoC would have got one more balance update if Activision hadn't laid off half of HMS. As it stands right now, the only thing that I would truly consider to be OP is the CRC, and possibly the A4. But the A4 does require a measure of skill to use.

I'm not sure what perks you think are unbalanced. Fire Blast maybe? One of the top players in the game recently made a strong case for sonic blast actually being better.

Well let's be honest. It's a niche game on an outdated system. 2012 wasn't that long ago, but in terms of modern games it was a lifetime ago.

 

Anything's great after playing a year of Destiny.  

No it isn't. I've not played much of FOC's multiplayer (because it's kinda boring) but this is just totally untrue for any game. Balancing is not a matter of opinion, that's why games are tested for balance and release updates to balance the game as the community brings to light to balance issues.

Still doesn't make it retro.

 

Might wanna read up on what Retro actually means in this context.

 

Even that wikipedia article doesn't agree on an exact definition of "retro" and it doesn't cite sources for half the dates that it does list. The fact is that FoC was made for a past era of gaming (now commonly referred to as "last gen.") and people mainly play it for nostalgia. That fits my definition for retro.

 

Well, I was trying to be nice since I know a large group of players here aren't gamers and get their ass handed to them in multiplayer. After logging in about 60 days game-time over 3+ years, I can tell you that multiplayer is extremely well balanced (especially compared to the current FPS games dominating the market.) Most people claiming otherwise just don't understand the game. Each weapon and perk has it's own counter, and there's never a sense of "you HAVE to use this weapon to be competitive."

 

Just be aware your deffinition of retro applies to pretty much no one else.

Because the "last gen" was barely three years ago. FOC itself is only four years old. (not even) By your deffinition DOTM is a retro movie.

We have an entire video games forum, dude. And I don't mean this one.

Could be FOC doesn't have a big following simply because it's nothing special.

 

"Retro movie?" I think film moves at a different speed than computer software (and I'm not just talking frames per second, hiyoo!). But I do consider Dark of the Moon (also made by HMS) a retro game too. I mean, maybe it's not retro in the very strictest sense. But when it's a game with a small niche player base who are playing on a near discontinued console then I hardly think "retro" is the worst description in the world.

 

I saw the 360 bundle... I am seriously tempted to get it. Good price, too.

 

I mean it doesn't.

"Retro" refers to an era as a whole. You can't pick and choose what's retro. And even if you could, three years old is not retro.

If you have the money and like G1 go for it, but it's an exceedingly average game, and especially unfriendly to anyone who's sick to death of the constant, souless rehashing of 86 movie quotes with no identity of their own. The Decepticon missions, Swindle/Bruticus especially, are pretty awful. The Autobot ones are creative, and have good dialogue and voice direction. Starscream's mission is an exception, though, it's alright. I broke it my first time playing it, though.

Basically if you think you'll like it, you'll like it. It won't convince any fence-sitters, though.

 

Mine is still sealed. But I'm currently playing final Fantasy 13. And I already played Transformers Devastation  

 

The difference is that film and gaming aren't defined by the same "era." Film is usually defined by decade and gaming is defined by console generation. That's how it's always been. You get two console generations a decade and you're already moving twice as fast as film. When you add multiplayer into the equation then things really speed up. 4 years in a multiplayer game is a damn lifetime. You think people consider Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 a current game? Hell no, that can easily be defined as retro by its player base. Not to mention that FoC is running Unreal 3 which debuted in 2004. That makes FoC's gaming engine well over a decade old. Starting to sound pretty retro to me.

 

Past era of gaming? It's a third person multiplayer shooter - which was largely rehashed verbatim in that awful Rise of the Dark Spark crap that was the same game only with AoE hamhandedly shoved in.

Or maybe they don't buy games purely because of multiplayer?

60 days over 3+ years? That's averaging only 20 days a year - or about 90 minutes a day.

Plus, whatever the current state of the game is, it will never change since High Moon Studios went bye-bye. Additionally, because of FOC's age, it's likely that its multiplayer servers will also shut down within the next two years - it's incompatible with PS4 due to all the microtransactions for building player Transformers from what I have read.

And that makes the game more special than any other multiplayer shooter on the market...how?

...it sounds like the exact same game as FOC...

Near discontinued? I can only assume you've never even heard of reverse compatibility between modern consoles since, y'know, 2000.

See, the difference between true retro and previous generation consoles is that the former are truly specialized machines with their own hardware, game storage mediums, and controllers.

The latter are all effectively specially built PC units. They all use disc drives and the same cables (USB, HDMI, etc.), the fact one of them is made BY MICROSOFT is kind of a big hint, and its almost standard these days for them to function as entertainment hub boxes for Netflix or whatever TV provider you may have in addition to playing games.

Plus, again, Rise of the Dark Spark - released 2014 even though it's literally just the same assets from FoC on the SAME ENGINE with AoE stuff shoved in it. It's not remotely retro if it's still the standard today.

Uh, no.

Mario Maker existing renders your argument null and void.

Wrong again.

We got two Transformers films in the decade 2000 - 2010. Likewise, only two consoles from each of the major three companies (xbox/360, PS2/3, Gamecube/Wii...even though the Wii was functionally just an upgraded Gamecube retaining the same hardware ports).

This decade? More than two Transformers films by the end of the decade, but only one console release per company (Wii U, PS4, Xbox One). It's 2016, but only Nintendo has anything new up their sleeve for potential release before the decade is up.

Might want to rethink that system of yours.

...who probably turned that game in at retailers for whatever Call of Duty series game is next because it's just the same game with some revised bells and whistles. You want a retro FPS? Try the classic, original Quake - the grandaddy of the mod which would create Team Fortress 2 - or the legendary Goldeneye 64.

But any modern CoD FPS a retro game? Please. There's been a new Call of Duty released every single year since 2002.

You know what else runs in Unreal 3?

BIOSHOCK INFINITE



2013 release.

Plus, you'd be hard pressed to name a game that actually uses Unreal Engine 4, which despite being released two years ago has yet to see widespread adaption since it's so powerful many existing hardware systems need upgrading just to handle it.