Petition to revive Transformers: Universe

Discussion in 'Transformers Video Game Discussion' started by Rikkmaery, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. Decepticons

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    I love the aesthetic. As for the game itself, I've never played so I can't very well comment.
     
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    Instead of a MMO I would much rather have a RPG based around MTMTE.

    Lofty expectations being something kinda like Mass Effect.
     
  3. MelficeCyrum

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    Lol people saying "Ditch the Prime aesthetic that part of the franchise is dead"

    Except it's not. And I'm upset because they were going to release lore characters and the like. We even had Breakdown, Wheeljack, Knock Out, Bulkhead, and Ratchet models. It could've been amazing.

    A more traditional MMO in the same aesthetic would've been awesome though.
     
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    Where are you getting this info? I thought the latest rumor was HMS was working on a TF game, a console game.
     
  5. Rikkmaery

    Rikkmaery Lurking Forever

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    The rumor that Highmoon is just because they will be announcing a game soon.

    I don't know the original source, but I read that Hasbro is focusing on Battle Tactics.
     
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    go to their website, nothing is confirmed to be transformers related but considering the success of those games and the amount of time they have had with the franchise its likely they will be behind another TF game
     
  7. kaijuguy19

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    I'm not sure about why people are saying that the game should ditch the Prime style since TFP ended a year ago. I mean yeah it makes sense that the game shouldn't be that strongly tied to the show anymore but in a way we're still getting the Prime elements in future shows like RID15 even if it's not as detailed so it's not going away anytime soon.

    That said while it would be great to see this revived with the original characters getting a second chance I don't see this working at all.
     
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    Because they're moving on with the media aesthetic. And it makes more sense to tie it to the current series rather than the one that just wrapped up. If that wasn't the case, why don't we see TFA stuff outside of Botcon or the club? Because that aesthetic is dead, and give this new series a year, and the kids will have all forgotten about TFP.
     
  9. Lewa1267

    Lewa1267 COME TO THE SABBATH

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    The Prime aesthetic isn't dead (unfortunately), just look at the new RID cartoon. It's simpler, but it's the same look really.
     
  10. Rikkmaery

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    You guys are bad at hiding the fact that you simply don't like the TFP aesthetic.

    I'm laughing at how you try to find excuses for them to not use the style.

    I think it's a good style, allows for interesting designs that aren't overdone like the movies. And are sleeker than many other styles.
     
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    What you think about the style is irrelevant, what Hasbro thinks about brand cohesion is what matters. If it did NOT, then we would see games of all types based off of long-dead sections of the franchise. There was a G1 cell phone game. Two, if I remember correctly. How many Armada games were there in the past 5-10 years? The PS2 game and that was the last one. TFA? Yeah, nothing, and it was supposedly the most popular chapter of the franchise, possibly even eclipsing BW. Oh, there's a good one. BW toys are getting made again, and shelfwarming. Are they throwing out a BW game of any type? Nope.

    IF they decide to sink money into an MMO, which I doubt they will, they will base it on a "safer" continuity, or the most current. Period.
     
  12. Rikkmaery

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    Sky-bite isn't exactly a decent character design. I find him atrocious.

    And G1 vets so much service as is. Everyone seems to slam and hade anything that isn't G1. This severely limits what is and isn't viable in Hasbro's eyes. The community shows Hasbro what they want.

    And well, right now Hasbro thinks they want G1 mobile app games.
     
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    Agreed, except for the bit where the Prime aesthetics should be ditched. For the most part I like Prime's aesthetics. However I'll absolutely settle for a Cybertron games look. I want to have the Cybertron game universe actually expanded on rather than 10,000 different continuities loosely based off of it (ala Prime, Rescue Bots, etc)
     
  14. Autobot Burnout

    Autobot Burnout ...and I'll whisper "No."

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    I...find this to be in question, if only because ROTDS was just that bad. Even though High Moon wasn't directly involved, I'm pretty sure the same general assets they developed for FOC were in that game so the look is still associated with them.

    I actually disagree, but only because I've yet to see anything other than Bumblebee and O.Prime that even remotely makes RID15 be unable to exist without the condition of being a sequel to TFP, and those two don't even seem much like their same characters anyway outside of the details established back with the movie versions for the standard appearances.

    ...you do realize the direction the "Prime" aesthetic went towards with Beast Hunters was making all the Decepticons have animal themes like Sky Byte, right?

    And how many years did it take for a Classics Jazz to exist? Or Trailbreaker/Trailcutter?

    Given how the current card-based G1 app game is doing extremely well, I don't see why a company seeking to make more money wouldn't come to this conclusion.

    How do you know it will fail? Cite your sources, please.

    But what about people who aren't totally die-hard fans of Transformers, whom you neglect to mention? The average joe? How many of those people have smartphones and a casual app game would appeal to?

    The problem you're having is that you're trying to approach this strictly from the mindset of somebody who wants a TF game that requires a good little investment to enjoy like a big name title. Hasbro is approaching this with the mindset of a company that wants to make money. Apps are making money and appeal to a wider audience.

    Actually, the problem runs deeper, where the real reason for why Universe has folded lies.

    See, back when Prime got going, Hasbro had the very ambitious plan of making the Aligned continuity be the backbone of the franchise's future. By establishing a single origin with WFC, Aligned would form a central branch that splinter timelines would branch off of.

    Prime's writers promptly screwed this all up by not even talking to the script writers of the games and instead went and did their own story, which FOC was then forced into making several retcons to attempt to fix the discrepancies. Thus, the ideal of Aligned was sacrificed in order to try and salvage Prime. The so-called "uninverse bible" that was the Covenant of Primus ended up being some weird love-triangle thing that just made it impossible for Prime to ever die again because now he's effectively robo-Jesus as the 13th Prime.

    This was bad because as evidenced by the toyline, PRID was aimed to exploit the splinter timelines by being all-inclusive. Thundertron existed only in the Exiles book, the first Ultra Magnus toy (the cab-over) matches concept art related to Universe instead of the design in Prime that was just an Optimus retool (which disappointed a lot of people because the first one at least was not this). Without media support, these non-Prime figures didn't have any fictional bearing on Prime and so many were left wondering why they got toys in the first place.

    With the toyline not meeting expectations, there was no reason for Hasbro to keep supporting the Universe game as Prime was hastily wrapped up (according to the writers themselves) and because they'd foolishly jetisoned Aligned's objectives to make up for Prime's writers not following even the most basic facts established by WFC, Hasbro couldn't waste the money on characters who weren't in the primary media. So, Universe had to go.

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  15. G1Prowl

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    I definitely stand corrected on the TFA Game front. I still stand my my statement that they won't make any follow-ups to it unless they manage a full-on recuscitation of the series.
     
  16. kaijuguy19

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    Wait how could the Prime writers screwed up the plan of the Aligned universe having splinter timelines and having their own continuities from one another if it was doing just that? Wouldn't that be following the rules exactly and that what FOC actually did cause this screw up? Also even if this wasn't the case how do you know that this may not have been a case of miscomunication on either side? That's what happened with the G1 Marvel comics and Sunbow show at the 80's.
     
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    That would require Prime to have actually tried to follow anything from WFC. By the beginnning of the second season it's contradicted basically every single concrete plot point from WFC, namely Dark Energon and the Matrix of Leadership.

    Marvel and Sunbow weren't trying to tell the exact same story in two different ways. It was the exact same characters in different adventures. Of key note there is the word "exact" as in "they didn't inexplicably become completely different in every possible way" between the show and the comics I.E. how WFC/FOC Soundwave somehow doesn't look like WFC/FOC Soundwave during that time period according to Prime's flashbacks.
     
  18. kaijuguy19

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    From what I've read about the Dark Energon they said at the 2011 Botcon panel that the effects of the Dark Energon from how it was done in Prime had now differed from what it was during the events of WFC. Also they never said about the same origin story that the Aligned family having a rule not to do some different takes on certain things.

    The people behind the binder of revelation never said anything about the Aligned universe needing to have one specific asthetic they need to follow exactly. They said they only have to have the same basic origin that it set up along with many elements they brought out to put into their respective stories. I mean the designs they drew up in the actual binder of revelation don't look like the designs used in WFC all that much since WFC went for a strong G1 style while Prime took to a more stylized look to them with different designs elements not just from G1.
     
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    That panel at Botcon was more about damage control, squint test, yadda yadda. The intent was to get everything in sync with the Movie Universe since that was the big cash cow. Marvel and DC have been doing the same thing for quite a few years now. Whomever is in the current movie/television series MUST be the person in the books. Hasbro was just making an attempt to align all the fiction. HMS was trying their best to make a pre-G1 type game, and was forced to "align" on several fronts.

    See above about the alignment. That is why TFA was shut down and they moved forward with creating TFP. TFP is essentially a mildy cartoony version of the Bay Movies, and the Binder of Revelation was made essentially to keep the rest of their multimedia efforts in line with that. You know, "align" their projects. WFC was started WAY before the work on aligning, and I believe it was sort of the reason FOR the alignment. Hasbro did not want brand confusion, or to essentially compete with itself.
     
  20. CybertronianFan

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    The irony being is with the declaration of the whole continuity fiasco, they caused a lot more confusion than clearing up. It may have looked great on paper, but it was terribly deployed.