I don't think its particularly necessary to name him, like I said I think hes a good guy plus he's not from the boards, and I bought it from a facebook TF sales page.
But I asked over here on TFW because this is where I post the most and usually get a good response and good wide wealth of knowledge from the community.

This thread is case and point, collectively we've now got a good list of how to spot fake HA Barricades!
Thanks again everyone.

If there are any other signs anyone knows of keep posting them, would be great to get a definitive list.  

 

The first sign that you should look out: whether the seller got it from China.

 

I'm really upset too. I bought a KO without knowing it. Just below 50bucks. Anyway. You are correct, in addition. Frenzy's arm will not tab to stow away in the hood, because the arm tabs and leg holes don't match. Its like the right arm is in the left shoulder socket.
2. Frenzys knees "touch" and it can't be swivelled out to correct it. 2. Barricades right shoulder joint cannot hold the weight of his arm so it is limp. I'm just so upset because I checked the description over and over making sure its not a KO. And the description was very oddly in French I even translated it. No it didn't say NON authentic.

 

It was Hong Kong. Hong Kong is alright right? Its an honest country. I always check this. Item location, Hong Kong. And after I bought it after further investigation, I clicked on user name.. Based in China.

 

So were you able to get a refund?

 

Sorry to hear you got hit by a fake too diverix, if you got it on eBay you're 100% covered though!! Go through the resolution centre and say you got a fake!! If eBay or the seller dispute it send them to this thread to view the evidence!!

Hope you get it sorted mate  

All I want is a legit Barricade, it's not too much to ask is it  

 

if it was gotten via ebay.....their last Terms of Service will require the seller to pay return postage...and then the item gets refunded plus shipping to the buyer and Ebay/paypal will either have the KO mailed to them or they will let the buyer hold onto it.

But they have implemented a policy of not returning KO's to the seller.

they will either destroy it themselves if they require it to be mailed to them or they will have the buyer dispose of it.

 

Yeah, I have no issues dealing with HK sellers. Its the China ones that I'm wary about.

 

barricade

OMG..I ordered a HA Jazz from another store in HK, *facepalm*. I hope there's no KO of Jazz out there.

 

End of the day it is a lesson learnt and also information share. Try to tall to the seller nicely. If he get nasty the leave an honest neg comment. Anyway I always believe doing good and paying it forward will give you good karma. Do bad things to fellower collertor or buyer. Karma will bite them back someday.

Thanks for asking. I learn new things. I am hunting for HA barricade too. Now I know how to tell the difference of KO.

 

I think I saw some KO Jazz before - 1 shop in my country was infamous for bringing in KOs.

Normally HK sellers are reliable but in the last few years, China sellers have er, 'entered' the scene...so one can never tell.

That's why I never bought anymore HA TFs after I bought Barricade and Bee...shortly after their release.

 

Yeah sadly HA Jazz has indeed been KO'd too, in fact nearly every HA figure has been KO'd. Best way to get one is probably on these very boards from a fellow Transformers fan. Ebay is a minefield of fakes unfortunately!!

I totally agree mate  
This thread, with so many peoples input has become a really great resource in ensuring we can all hopefully one day get legitimate Barricades  

 

Tell you what, I'll dig out the old pictures I took of my KO HA Barricade (back when they were brand new) and repost them here. There's a lot of them though, hence me not bothering to reup them since they got lost into the internet ether originally.

Edit
My original post from ages ago, with reupped photo's... I think they're in the right place in the post.

Righty, some photos, these are straight from the camera, so forgive the load times. If you want me to change them so they'll appear faster on your PC, no I don't care, buy a faster PC.  

Pics of the KO in package, I can't directly compare, as I don't have the original, but the print appears slightly lower quality than normal, as if it was run from a high end laser printer rather than a professional printers. I think, but perfectly passable.













Some things to note, in all my previous HA stuff, the 'Human Alliance' white writing is a sticker stuck onto the plastic box front itself, here it is painted on. You can see oh so slight imperfections on straight edges on the letters.



Also, the tape application on the sides is shoddy, one big piece to cover the corners. Something else I noticed, the edge of the front Barricade image is folded around the corner of the box, I think maybe the plastic canopy is slightly smaller?



Instructions, front and back. No idea is they're different or not.





Closer look still tied in, tied in using twist ties, Frenzy is held in with one of those transparent rubber bands. The only difference I can see is the twist tie is noticibly further forward on his bonnet/hood on the KO than on the TFW resources pic.



Down to the nitty gritty, car mode is pretty much impeccable. Nothing stands out and says 'KO' to me. Shots all around for you. Only thing that might be a clue is his rear panel between the spoiler and window sits proud, but that just might be mistransformation. :/ Oh, and the 'Police' on the spoiler is not centred, on the official version the break appears to be in the middle of the 'L' in POLICE, on the KO the break is right on the vertical bit of the 'L'.













Frenzy himself is a bit of a mess, very floppy legs and won't stand by himself. I'm sure it can be fixed if I tighten the joints. I wonder if I should start a thread asking how do I tighten joints on a Transformer?





Robot mode. No problems getting it into robot mode, feels solid. Only thing that might be 'different' is the gray crotch piece that slides in to secure the lower part of his body was a little tight going into the assigned hole. But it does go in after a little coaxing. Oh and the spinning wheel of doom didn't pop out when I pressed the fuel cap button, after a little wiggling it springs out, but doesn't work from the button. Something to note.



Some other things I noticed, some pins don't seem to be fully inserted, nothing major as everything still works fine. The worst one I could see is his right shoulder pin, its hard to see from the picture (auto focus FTL) but it does protrude noticibly more than on his left hand side.



A small stress mark on the two piece gray plastic underneath the chest/bonnet/hood. It actually doesn't look flush (ie not pressed together) so I'll look into that a little more later, but this is pretty much how he is out of the KO package. There's a few (and only a few) production imperfections, a couple of those stringy bits of plastic that are left behind (if you look closely at the front of the car, the ram bar has a little diagonal bit of plastic, thats not a mark, thats a stringly piece of plastic) and marks where parts were cut from the sprue. But nothing major, and indeed, nothing I've not seen on official products every once in a while.



All in all, if I didn't know it was a KO, I would quite easily overlook it and think it was original myself... I think the easiest way to spot this is probably from the packaging, the side of the Barricade pic being folded around (doesn't seem to be like that on the official one) and the placement of the twist ties. Also the 'Human Alliance' logo, is it a sticker on the original? Because the painted logo on the KO packaging will be a dead giveaway.

Compare it yourself to the official one and play spot the difference.

Barricade with Decepticon Frenzy - ROTF Human Alliance - TFW2005

Anyway insane that this is a KO.

Edit
Something possibly major I noticed. This figure was never released in the uk, but the box bottom mentions Hasbro UK and Australia... its the UK bit that sticks out to me.

 

Brilliant Tikgnat, I guess rather than start this thread I could have just gone into yours for answers.
But now even more so what with other people's information and now your excellent photos and pointers not a single one of us will have a problem identifying a fake/KO!!

If I ever go on Mastermind I now have my specialist subject sorted  

Cheers dude.

 

Thanks I'm going to a store somewhere soon which claim to be selling this guy, I know what to look for now, they are selling for £30 so may be fake but you never know, at least now I know what to look for.

What about the other Human Alliance figures?
Are they routinely copied?

 

Came from a mall here locally and i found a HA barricade on a display glass but on loose condition with a tag price of around 40$ if converted on usd. I was really excited to check it if it is authentic one turns out the guy assisting me said its a ko! really bummer, but somehow i still want to return and check if its really a ko.

This pics and guide is really helpful guys thanks, Hopefully i can still get this bad guy.

 

Sorry missed this post! Did you buy the Barricade? Was it real?

I think the main copied HA's are Barricade(obviously  ) Jazz, Bumblebee and Leadfoot. I think thats all of them, perhaps someone else can chip in with a definitive list?

Did you have any luck mate?

I'm still on the hunt....................one day, one day!!

 

I recently bought one on Amazon. I contacted the seller before hand and they responded that it was an original.

I had my doubts, but purchased anyway. As soon as I got it, I could tell it was fake from the grill as it didn't have that peg.

I contacted the seller, but received no response. Instead Amazon gave me credit for what I spent and I got to keep the figure.

 

I'm glad it worked out for you bud, well sort of, you didn't get what you originally wanted but at least you didn't lose your cash.

Theres nothing worse than sellers who try and palm off KOs as the real deal!!

 

So far no bro, but i did saw one from the forums locally for 40$ in loose condition. I wanted to share the pics in here but i don't want the seller think that i don't trust him even if its really an original. There's also one for 130$ sealed but,,,