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Old 02-09-2006, 11:17 AM   #1
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Counterfeit Ironhide G1?

Hi,

Was hoping to get some help from savvy collectors. I just purchased a G1 Ironhide on eBay, and I think I got hosed.

http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-01.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-02.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-03.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-04.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-05.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-06.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-07.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-08.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-09.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-10.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-11.jpg
http://www.perfectpixel.se/stuff/ironhide-12.jpg

The seller claimed that this is old stock from a toystore, and the orignal USA version. But the chinese sticker on the front and the poor job on the flap made me suspicious.

I paid good money for this, so I'm wondering if any of you can tell whether this is a fake.

Should've known better

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Old 02-09-2006, 11:24 AM   #2
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This is a chinese bootleg ... the sticker is a dead give away.




I'm a bootleg collector, so if you want to recoop any of your costs, please PM me.
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:27 AM   #3
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You know if these were to show up at a decent price I would buy some
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:35 AM   #4
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Definitely a bootleg, but a nice one nonetheless.
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Old 02-09-2006, 11:43 AM   #5
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It is a well done knock-off, but at $199 the guy is robbing people. If he had stated it in the auction that it's a bootleg/counterfeit/knock-off and charged around 1/4 of that price I wouldn't have been complaining.

e3nine, it's the same auction where you got those pics. I've contacted the guy and demanded my money back, so I'll wait and see what happens. If he's not so cooperative I guess I'll keep it and consider this an expensive lesson.

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Old 02-09-2006, 11:48 AM   #6
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It is a well done knock-off, but at $199 the guy is robbing people. If he had stated it in the auction that it's a bootleg/counterfeit/knock-off and charged around 1/4 of that price I wouldn't have been complaining.

e3nine, it's the same auction where you got those pics. I've contacted the guy and demanded my money back, so I'll wait and see what happens. If he's not so cooperative I guess I'll keep it and consider this an expensive lesson.

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Good luck man.

Rest assured that those KO's are absolutely gone, they're not being pressed today.

They were once available many years ago, and this is what's left. I haven't seen any more surface except from that one seller. If I do see one, it's usually from a US based collector selling off their stuff.

I can't imagine this KO run is larger than the eHobby 1,000 units of 2001.
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:15 PM   #7
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Good luck man.

Rest assured that those KO's are absolutely gone, they're not being pressed today.

They were once available many years ago, and this is what's left. I haven't seen any more surface except from that one seller. If I do see one, it's usually from a US based collector selling off their stuff.

I can't imagine this KO run is larger than the eHobby 1,000 units of 2001.
Well that's somewhat reassuring, that I didn't get totally ripped off here. Thanks for your input.

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Old 02-09-2006, 12:19 PM   #8
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Yeah the guy might have genuinely thought it was legit.
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:29 PM   #9
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Yeah the guy might have genuinely thought it was legit.
it's possible that this could be legit ...

most of the KO's from that era had 2 thing to keep an eye out for

1. the chinese sticker
2. the blacked out portion near the tech specs


see how there's a black bar right next to the white text?

This is a total mixed bag though. KO Rukus and Seaspray had these, but Beachcomber didn't.

The Ironhide pictured here doesn't have that ... but if it was purchased from the guy flashing an entire case in the background, this has to be a ko.

Although we (TF fans) have the logic to say what this is or isn't, the admin is right ... the perception is in the eye of the seller.
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Old 02-09-2006, 04:10 PM   #10
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A black bar? Where?
Does anyone have a list of all the G1 toys that have been counterfited to this date? Is it all of them?
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