I think paint apps might be returning

Ryoku · 12-10-2012, 10:48 PM

I just got my wave 3 FoC figures in today and from my casual observations, they seem to have a number more paint apps than the first FoC wave. I mean comparing Sideswipe to Jazz, Sideswipe just looks more detailed. They even painted a little silver on his arms and legs compared to Jazz. Starscream doesn't seem to be lacking any paint apps either. There isn't anything I see on him that jumps out as in need of paint.

If my observations are accurate, mayhap we are past the worst of the cut backs?

GPTF01 · 12-10-2012, 10:56 PM

i have noticed this as well. defiantly seem to be slightly more paint on them or maybe just in better places?

Kaiwera05 · 12-10-2012, 10:58 PM

Dear god I hope so. Maybe the plastic quality and amount of it will be increasing soon enough. *crosses fingers*

SPLIT LIP · 12-10-2012, 11:08 PM

I noticed size might be increasing to. Or plastic content. Soundwave looks pretty big from what we've seen, (like old Voyager size) and Grimlock looks to be the same size or bigger. (and has his electronics built-in) And the FOC Wreckers, while based on tiny toys, have big weapons in addition to their old ones to fill out the card so to speak.

Ryoku · 12-10-2012, 11:12 PM

Whoa, I just realized, Starscream has neither hollow arms NOR legs!

rattraprules98 · 12-11-2012, 12:12 AM

Just look at Airraid. His entire torso is painted silver.

bny888 · 12-11-2012, 01:07 AM

What I would want would be tampos instead of stickers. More metallic paint apps too!

Superquad7 · 12-11-2012, 02:12 AM

I know something's gonna haveta start giving . . . .

Valkysas · 12-11-2012, 02:47 AM

So far, I see no reason to think anything has actually changed.

With wave 3 of FOC, we're dealing with a wave that's primarily remolds, with only one of them actually being a heavy remold. All remolds and accessories were most likely designed along with the original figures since we know hasbro does that now, which probably explains why everything in wave 1 was trash (well, at least in my eyes, and I own all three). We also know that hasbro budgets and distributes paint apps by wave. Only two toys in wave 3 are completely new for this wave. Think about that. Everything else in there was done in wave 1, just not released. Wave 3 was cheap as hell to produce for them, so of course they could splurge on paint.

FOC Voyager wave 1 is effectively one figure. So the size probably has a hell of a lot to do with that. Normal voyager waves are two molds these days. Not this time. One mold. That's saving them a lot of money, so they can throw more at the single mold in the wave and it's repaint. Sure, Blaster's remold was designed and budgeted with the Soundwave mold, but that's just a new head, chest plate, and gun.

The Wrecker combiner was also likely designed and budgeted into the original Bruticus, so if you're wondering why those guys were so damn hollow and flimsy feeling, there's your answer. A lot of their plastic went into second heads and big guns.

I'll start thinking things actually changed when we get a solid wave of new molds that are up to the same standards as deluxe wave 3 and voyager wave 1.

Erector · 12-11-2012, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Valkysas

So far, I see no reason to think anything has actually changed.

With wave 3 of FOC, we're dealing with a wave that's primarily remolds, with only one of them actually being a heavy remold. All remolds and accessories were most likely designed along with the original figures since we know hasbro does that now, which probably explains why everything in wave 1 was trash (well, at least in my eyes, and I own all three). We also know that hasbro budgets and distributes paint apps by wave. Only two toys in wave 3 are completely new for this wave. Think about that. Everything else in there was done in wave 1, just not released. Wave 3 was cheap as hell to produce for them, so of course they could splurge on paint.

FOC Voyager wave 1 is effectively one figure. So the size probably has a hell of a lot to do with that. Normal voyager waves are two molds these days. Not this time. One mold. That's saving them a lot of money, so they can throw more at the single mold in the wave and it's repaint. Sure, Blaster's remold was designed and budgeted with the Soundwave mold, but that's just a new head, chest plate, and gun.

The Wrecker combiner was also likely designed and budgeted into the original Bruticus, so if you're wondering why those guys were so damn hollow and flimsy feeling, there's your answer. A lot of their plastic went into second heads and big guns.

I'll start thinking things actually changed when we get a solid wave of new molds that are up to the same standards as deluxe wave 3 and voyager wave 1.

I could be wrong here - but I always assumed figures are budgeted by entire LINES, rather than waves?

12-10-2012, 10:48 PM	#1
Ryoku Autobot Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 7,619 News Credits: 1	I think paint apps might be returning I just got my wave 3 FoC figures in today and from my casual observations, they seem to have a number more paint apps than the first FoC wave. I mean comparing Sideswipe to Jazz, Sideswipe just looks more detailed. They even painted a little silver on his arms and legs compared to Jazz. Starscream doesn't seem to be lacking any paint apps either. There isn't anything I see on him that jumps out as in need of paint. If my observations are accurate, mayhap we are past the worst of the cut backs? Burnout V4 - Free papercraft energon cubes made by me My Thugger gallery

12-10-2012, 11:08 PM	#4
SPLIT LIP I'm an agile cat. Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 44,626 Location: The Lost Light Collection Count: Enough to cover a body. News Credits: 1	I noticed size might be increasing to. Or plastic content. Soundwave looks pretty big from what we've seen, (like old Voyager size) and Grimlock looks to be the same size or bigger. (and has his electronics built-in) And the FOC Wreckers, while based on tiny toys, have big weapons in addition to their old ones to fill out the card so to speak. ''Brevity is the soul of wit.'' - Bill Shakesguy

12-10-2012, 11:12 PM	#5
Ryoku Autobot Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 7,619 News Credits: 1	Whoa, I just realized, Starscream has neither hollow arms NOR legs! Burnout V4 - Free papercraft energon cubes made by me My Thugger gallery

12-11-2012, 01:07 AM	#7
bny888 バグバイト Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,860 Location: Manila, Philippines Collection Count: They're mostly in bins, and I've lost track of how many I've accumulated for quite some time... News Credits: 8	What I would want would be tampos instead of stickers. More metallic paint apps too! "We’re constantly trying to honor G1 and the other shows in the ‘Transformers’ mythology, but we’re just not trying to duplicate it." - Jeff Kline

12-11-2012, 02:47 AM	#9
Valkysas Attack Buffalo Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,039 Location: Lansing Michigan Collection Count: 742 News Credits: 15	So far, I see no reason to think anything has actually changed. With wave 3 of FOC, we're dealing with a wave that's primarily remolds, with only one of them actually being a heavy remold. All remolds and accessories were most likely designed along with the original figures since we know hasbro does that now, which probably explains why everything in wave 1 was trash (well, at least in my eyes, and I own all three). We also know that hasbro budgets and distributes paint apps by wave. Only two toys in wave 3 are completely new for this wave. Think about that. Everything else in there was done in wave 1, just not released. Wave 3 was cheap as hell to produce for them, so of course they could splurge on paint. FOC Voyager wave 1 is effectively one figure. So the size probably has a hell of a lot to do with that. Normal voyager waves are two molds these days. Not this time. One mold. That's saving them a lot of money, so they can throw more at the single mold in the wave and it's repaint. Sure, Blaster's remold was designed and budgeted with the Soundwave mold, but that's just a new head, chest plate, and gun. The Wrecker combiner was also likely designed and budgeted into the original Bruticus, so if you're wondering why those guys were so damn hollow and flimsy feeling, there's your answer. A lot of their plastic went into second heads and big guns. I'll start thinking things actually changed when we get a solid wave of new molds that are up to the same standards as deluxe wave 3 and voyager wave 1. I'm selling things! Boxed pre-rub G1 Soundwave, Hasbro MP Rodimus, Human Alliance figures, PCC Spastic, Blue Music Label Soundwave, MIB/MISB Alternators, Fox Kids Transmetal Rhinox, G1 Ultra Magnus, Pretenders, and more. Updated 5/23/2013

12-10-2012, 10:56 PM	#2
GPTF01 Omnibot Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 233 Location: Michigan Collection Count: 100+	i have noticed this as well. defiantly seem to be slightly more paint on them or maybe just in better places?