Retailers must really not want my money

nOObiE do0 · 07-30-2012, 09:56 AM

Problem now will be that at this price,people cherry pick what they want.When they were cheaper,I bought everything.
Side effect of cherry picking is there will be more shelf warmers and stores order less.
Now that they are higher,I bought nothing.Actually i just looked and i havent bought anything new since cyberverse powerglide.But ill tell you what....My car is a hell of alot faster.
I just moved my hasbro money into my car fund.

bellpeppers · 07-30-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by herugrim

How about you get a life and get over yourself, instead? When the economy gets bad, people complain about it. That's all they can do, since they can no longer afford to spend the money to distract them otherwise. Since your obviously a simpler kind of person who thinks everyone has to act the way you do, I'll spell it out for you:

Goes to store to buy robot - Robot too expensive - Goes home empty handed and disappointed - uses free speech to complain

That is the order of life. You are the one that needs to deal with it, kid.

Personally I haven't seen the price hike yet (hasn't hit me as of last week at least). If it does hit me all it really means is that I have to be more selective. Given that I haven't bought more then three figures so far this year, that just makes things easier.

The hard part is that Internet prices will get hiked next. Get ready to see undersized, underdeveloped Deluxes for $25 online, after which the third party figures will go up again. They're already up to $100+ for smaller figs anyway.

THIS!
THIS!
1,000 times THIS!

Starscream Gaga · 07-30-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by herugrim

How about you get a life and get over yourself, instead?

That's extremely immature and sort of makes your whole argument less convincing, because you started off by being rude for no reason. How does saying that he doesn't think people should be complaining mean that he doesn't have a life? It doesn't.

bellpeppers · 07-30-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfdawg

I agree completely, and I think this is what most people who are from other countries and taking Americans' bitching and moaning as an insult aren't getting. It's not JUST because the prices are going up, that's only a factor. It's the combination of a bunch of things.

No, I think this just gives them one more excuse to not like America or Americans.

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Higher TF prices ARE NOT THE FAULT OF HASBRO OR RETAILERS. Nor is it inflation due to what year it is.

There are forces behind everything that we do and spend money on, and behind those forces are people who make decisions that affect us all.

The results include the devaluing of the US Dollar and less oil to make our plastic crack, which is driving up food costs, gas costs and even out play costs.

And the real kicker is that we put these people in place, so if you want to blame someone then we need to look in the mirror.

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga

How does saying that he doesn't think people should be complaining mean that he doesn't have a life?

Because it tells them to worry about their own problems instead of hating on others for theirs.

Big Dawg · 07-30-2012, 12:15 PM

I'm sure many have said it before, but the reason non-american's always tend to post unflatteringly when the US toy price goes up is because non-us prices have always been higher, even though in say Canada, we have been paying the $15-16 per deluxe for years and our dollar has been close to parity with the US dollar for about 3-4 years. We basically put up with it and pay the price to enter, because we are fans. I think there has been some great advice in here, such as if the price of official hasbro product seems too steep, save your cash for 3rd party toys that are now closer to hasbro retail. Mainly the point is is that this horse has been beaten to death (complaining about rising deluxe prices in the US), and so ultimately it isn't that non-americans hold any ill-will towards americans, it's moreso just a "live with it like every other country has to or shut up about it" mentality.

Gilgamesh · 07-30-2012, 12:25 PM

But you have to agree that there is a lot of antiamericanism everywhere. Justified or not it always starts to creep into some people's posts.

Personally I find a lot of the time it's unjustified. The US is, like any country, far from perfect but it gets a lot of seething hatred directed to their regular people who have little fault or say in global matters.

Starscream Gaga · 07-30-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bellpeppers

Because it tells them to worry about their own problems instead of hating on others for theirs.

"Hating" is harsh, especially considering posting a thread about it invites people with differing opinions to voice them. The hate is definitely coming from such an immature response.

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Originally Posted by Gilgamesh

Personally I find a lot of the time it's unjustified. The US is, like any country, far from perfect but it gets a lot of seething hatred directed to their regular people who have little fault or say in global matters.

I think a large part of the problem us foreigners have is that this slight price increase to the Americans is being constantly mentioned and is still SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than we pay. Trying to find a thread without bitching about it is harder then finding one with.
But say, one of us posted about having to pay $30 for a Deluxe or $50 for Voyager, we'd get no sympathy and instead a million different reasons as to why Americans can complain and us mentioning how we get it worse and always have is wrong.

webz · 07-30-2012, 12:40 PM

Prices aren't static. That's how the economics work. And since I started buying toys back in 1981 til today, prices have been going up and up and up. GI Joes in 1985 were on average 2.99 each, today that average 6.99 to 8.99. My parents bought me Optimus Prime at Montgomery Wards in 1985 for $30... adjusted for inflation, he'd be at 59.99 (basically he'd be an "Ultra" figure), so prices haven't "gone up" they've just been adjusting to economic realities.

Can't honestly complain, because minimum wage in 1985 was 3.35 an hour, today the baseline minimum wage in the USA is 7.25 an hour, so the ratio of dollar earned to toy expense, is actually more in your favor today than it was in 1985, since $3.35 an hour would be 6.70 an hour adjusted for inflation.

KingStyle · 07-30-2012, 12:50 PM

Is Takara plastic the same as Hasbro?

webz · 07-30-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga

"Hating" is harsh, especially considering posting a thread about it invites people with differing opinions to voice them. The hate is definitely coming from such an immature response.

I think a large part of the problem us foreigners have is that this slight price increase to the Americans is being constantly mentioned and is still SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than we pay. Trying to find a thread without bitching about it is harder then finding one with.
But say, one of us posted about having to pay $30 for a Deluxe or $50 for Voyager, we'd get no sympathy and instead a million different reasons as to why Americans can complain and us mentioning how we get it worse and always have is wrong.

Well, a lot of that has to do with the fact that America doesn't attempt in the least to protect domestic production, and therefore has VERY little in the ways of tariffs, customs fees, etc compared to many other countries. Many companies in other countries also must support higher business taxes, as well as various state-sponsored health care initiatives and other expenses. Also, America is the largest market for everyone else's junk, so competition amongst companies is more fierce, so prices are lower, but they hope to make up for that in volume. There are hundreds of little reasons the USA is cheaper than many places in the world.

07-30-2012, 12:40 PM	#58
webz Pompous Decepticon Seeker Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,608 Collection Count: Only collect Masterpieces now.	Prices aren't static. That's how the economics work. And since I started buying toys back in 1981 til today, prices have been going up and up and up. GI Joes in 1985 were on average 2.99 each, today that average 6.99 to 8.99. My parents bought me Optimus Prime at Montgomery Wards in 1985 for $30... adjusted for inflation, he'd be at 59.99 (basically he'd be an "Ultra" figure), so prices haven't "gone up" they've just been adjusting to economic realities. Can't honestly complain, because minimum wage in 1985 was 3.35 an hour, today the baseline minimum wage in the USA is 7.25 an hour, so the ratio of dollar earned to toy expense, is actually more in your favor today than it was in 1985, since $3.35 an hour would be 6.70 an hour adjusted for inflation. Ratchet on Human Sexuality: Ratchet (TF 2007): "The boy's pheromone levels suggests he wants to mate with the female.” Ratchet (TF:A): "Will you get in already? " Ratchet (G1): "We'll need Teletraan 1 to diagnose all this damage. " Ratchet (TFP):"I NEEDED THAT!"

07-30-2012, 09:56 AM	#51
nOObiE do0 noobious maximus Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 358 Location: philly	Problem now will be that at this price,people cherry pick what they want.When they were cheaper,I bought everything. Side effect of cherry picking is there will be more shelf warmers and stores order less. Now that they are higher,I bought nothing.Actually i just looked and i havent bought anything new since cyberverse powerglide.But ill tell you what....My car is a hell of alot faster. I just moved my hasbro money into my car fund.

07-30-2012, 12:15 PM	#55
Big Dawg Stunticon Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,187 Location: Saskatchewan Collection Count: Around 150	I'm sure many have said it before, but the reason non-american's always tend to post unflatteringly when the US toy price goes up is because non-us prices have always been higher, even though in say Canada, we have been paying the $15-16 per deluxe for years and our dollar has been close to parity with the US dollar for about 3-4 years. We basically put up with it and pay the price to enter, because we are fans. I think there has been some great advice in here, such as if the price of official hasbro product seems too steep, save your cash for 3rd party toys that are now closer to hasbro retail. Mainly the point is is that this horse has been beaten to death (complaining about rising deluxe prices in the US), and so ultimately it isn't that non-americans hold any ill-will towards americans, it's moreso just a "live with it like every other country has to or shut up about it" mentality.

07-30-2012, 12:25 PM	#56
Gilgamesh Mostly Harmless Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,236 Location: Santiago, Chile News Credits: 1	But you have to agree that there is a lot of antiamericanism everywhere. Justified or not it always starts to creep into some people's posts. Personally I find a lot of the time it's unjustified. The US is, like any country, far from perfect but it gets a lot of seething hatred directed to their regular people who have little fault or say in global matters.

07-30-2012, 12:50 PM	#59
KingStyle Predacon Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 400 Location: San Diego, CA Collection Count: 100	Is Takara plastic the same as Hasbro?