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Old 06-16-2012, 06:05 PM   #1
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Need help indenifing a G1 Bumblebee..

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I have the opportunity to purchase a G1 1985 Bumblebee that is still new sealed. I've heard a ton of stories about KO versions verus original verus. Please let me know your thoughts to the following pictures that I've provided below. If there are any helpful tips for my search to finding one, this would be great! Thank you...



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Old 06-16-2012, 06:15 PM   #2
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Here's a link to boardmember Mightgaine's site. It has helped me many times
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:16 PM   #4
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That is a KO!
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:19 PM   #5
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@ Da_Last_2_Walk, Please explain why it's an KO if you don't mind. @ whoamidri, what the hell are you talking about??
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:24 PM   #6
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@ Da_Last_2_Walk, Please explain why it's an KO if you don't mind. @ whoamidri, what the hell are you talking about??
Sure, no problem, I always try to help others from getting scammed!

The hole punch is centered, a real one has an off-centered hole punch. The bubble does not go all the way to the bottom right of the card, a real one does. The Tech Spec has the wrong color line running through it, a real one has a duller line.

Here's my real one:
TRANSFORMERS SERIES 2 BUMBLEBEE BUMBLE BEE YELLOW AFA 85 MOC MISB MOSC MINICAR | eBay
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:40 PM   #7
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Thanks man! This was really helpful. Now that I'm looking at it, it really looks like a KO. Would the off-centered punch hole always be the dead give away? If so, I will always look at that first. I was originally looking at this one below because it was AFA'ed but it has all of the Japan literature stickers on it. What's the difference from yours and this one?







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Old 06-16-2012, 07:01 PM   #8
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Thanks man! This was really helpful. Now that I'm looking at it, it really looks like a KO. Would the off-centered punch hole always be the dead give away? If so, I will always look at that first. I was originally looking at this one below because it was AFA'ed but it has all of the Japan literature stickers on it. What's the difference from yours and this one?

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...5/PIC_0024.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...5/PIC_0025.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...5/PIC_0029.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...5/PIC_0031.jpg
First off, if the seller was trying to pass off that KO as an original, they need bitch-slapped, and if they are an ebay seller you should post their name so others won't get scammed!

Yes, the off-center hole punch is a dead give away.

The second BB you posted is a Chinese re-issue. These are technically real & licensed by Hasbro, however most collectors want the original U.S.A. versions. The re-issues have the Chinese stickers on the front & the copyright information on the back is shorter than the original copyright information. (Compare the copyright information under the Tech Spec with the KO vs. the Chinese re-issue)
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:25 PM   #9
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I can't thank you enought for all of your help. Would you consider collecting the Chinese re-issue versus? If so, what's a good purchase price as well as resale price?
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I can't thank you enought for all of your help. Would you consider collecting the Chinese re-issue versus? If so, what's a good purchase price as well as resale price?
No problem, feel free to PM me anytime you have questions.

Honestly I wouldn't consider collecting the Chinese re-issues, especially if you are considering reselling it. Most high-end or AFA collectors only want the originals. This is just my opinion, as I know other collector would want the re-issues. I would keep an eye on ebay's current & completed listings to gauge prices for the re-issues. However, you will see that they do not sell for as much as the original versions.
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