Botcon 2012 : The Nail in the Coffin to the Classics / G1 Collector (And Bay Movies)

I will agree that Movie is dead (until TF4), but why Classics? What about all those Generations toys? Even if you don't count the FOC ones, some of which, like Shockwave and Soundwave, could easily be used as Classics figures, they did say that there will be more non-FOC figures later in the line.

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I agree that Shockwave's Bot mode will fit in perfect on my Classics G1 shelf but most of the figures in the FOC line do not. I am not hating on the FOC line or Prime line in fact I have every case pre ordered of each assortment or have already purchased. I for one wish they would get around to making a official Arcee , Voyager Ultra Magnus (Cartoon Accurate) , Voyager Rodimus Prime , Springer , Hoist , Deluxe Trailbreaker and whoever else has been left out of the Classics Cartoon loop so far.

They are focusing on FOC because its a "gateway drug".

WfC sold amazingly well, but most of those gamers didn't turn into Transformers fans... they turned into Transformers games fans. It didn't help that they only had a handful of characters from the game to buy. I know a ton of people who loved the game but never bought any of the figures, or even realized figures came out.

With FOC, Hasbro wants to make Transformers games fans into Transformers fans and they are going to do that with a huge Transformers FOC figure push. You better believe all the big gaming sites like Kotaku, Joystiq and Destructoid are going to plaster images all over their site of "those Transformers figures from the game".

They then go from being Transformers games fans, to Transforemers FOC toy fans, to straight up Transformers fans. More people buying the figures is more revenue for Hasbro.

So Hasbro is going to push FOC the same way they push the movies -- with toys. It makes perfect sense now that the game series is a really big deal, as no one knew how the first game would sell.

Classics figures sells to already established fans who will buy Transformers regardless... Hasbro wants the new blood.

Yeah, 2012 sucks for Classics, but 2013 will be better, once Hasbro phases out FOC.

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But why should we have to wait for a comic book convention to get reveals, when they could just as easily showed them at Botcon, their actual convention.

Bigger audience at SDCC, more exposure, more chances to hook people who aren't Transformers fans.

Hasbro doesn't need to market to the fans, we're buying the stuff regardless. The fact they announce stuff at Botcon at all is just them being nice and throwing fans a bone.

Toys not ready to be shown then? It's part of a marketing thing...you don't blow your entire load at one venue, instead you want to spread 'em out over the major ones so you've got something for people to look forward to...hype up people with new reveals at each con.

Anyways, I don't understand this thread, and those like it. What part of Generations 2013 STARTS with FoC, then we'll get some Classicsverse characters do people not understand? Has high school reading comprehension gone down the drain again on TFW2005?

This is called why such a long gap in classics figures? Since March of last year I have had only 2 new classics figures. Sky shadow and junk heap and those are old molds. Warpath is the last new mold and came out early last year.

2 figures in 2 years is not enough.

Let's say you're right for a moment, OP.

There's one area in which you're wrong.

G1/Classics? Perhaps. (We have nothing definitive, yet.)
But movie? Completely. Wrong, maybe not this year, but we all know when 2014 rolls around and the next movie is due, everything else will be put on the back burner in favor of it.

I wouldn't doubt we'll see repainted Soundwaves, Ques, and first time Dino, then. Does that help us now? No. But your words, while incredibly negative, were also wrong. Think ahead, not everything happens in this moment.

What part of 2012 do you not understand?

I know there will be more toys for the next movie. The movie line got screwed and now the classics line is screwed.

I am talking about this drought of classics and movie figures for 2012.