Legion, Legends, Cyberverse, Scout Discussion

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by CyrDraconis, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. CyrDraconis

    CyrDraconis Well-Known Member

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    ...too soon? The old CV Appreciation thread is pretty buried, and covered DOTM quite well - but now we have a while new batch of legends and commanders to talk over.

    After finding Cliffjumper the other day, the bug bit hard; three days and two Targets later, I've the entire legion wave 1 perched on my desk. Might whip up more in-depth review threads down in the appropriate section later for the ones that aren't present.

    As a whole, I'm very impressed so far. The legion figures feel a lot more cohesive than the DOTM CV line - I know five isn't a good sample size, but it's a start. What we've seen in photos continues the trend, helped by the fact that half the figures aren't redecos of older molds. Not even too bothered by the rubber accessories. Energon weapons didn't bug me in Energon either.

    One small and truly irrational like - I'm inordinately pleased to see roles/functions and two-sentence bios back on the legends figures.

    I plan on posting proper notes in the appropriate threads, but here are my quick two-cent reviews:

    CJ - sweet retro car mode, transformation that would still be interesting on a much larger figure; excellent articulation for the size with all ten major joints present (shoulders, elbows, hips, knees, ankles), eight of them balljoints.

    Ratchet - solid blocky lil truck, far simpler conversion that is still a bit unusual with leaving the legs at an angle. A little more than expected legion-class articulation (shoulders/hips/one of elbows or knees) thanks to the ankle transformation, fair detailing in robot mode. May take a toothpick and re-dot in his eyes.

    BB - Fine little car, painted headlights are neatly done. If you've transformed one legends!BB, you've transformed them all. Lousy articulation, looks like he should have knees but doesn't; buttflap and calf panels making moving the legs hard. Still, the way the front wheels angle in with the arms to fill out the torso, and the grill not being a solid slab are interesting. Surprisingly okay despite the flaws.

    Arcee - Motorcycles at legends-size are difficult, but she does great. Neat metallic-teal paint for the headlight and windscreen; my sample doesn't peg together great in vehicle mode, but isn't too bad. A little hard to keep upright in bike mode. The legs transforming with different rotation to take care of the wheels is unusual. Bot mode is a little spindly, plus the kibblewings, otherwise great even with legend-standard joints.

    Vehicon - wicked car mode. Someone's already digibashed it, but I expect to see Batmobile repaints. Even simpler transofmration than Ratchet, but it's unusual to have to fold a head out on a legion-class instead of just moving parts around it. Appropriately hunchbacked and lurker-ey in robot mode. May need more than one of this guy.

    Of the three weapons we get with this lot, I don't really have a favourite. Swapped one of the gun/blades to Arcee though, it makes a way better kickstand than the double blaster.

    Also, redeco ideas:
    CJ - as previously noted in his review thread, green plastic and orange eyes for Cybertron Downshift. Shouldn't need any other deco changes. Maybe swap the weapon to the double blaster.

    Ratchet - ...difficult, in a way. If the upcoming Commander Ironhide is -red-, then all of Ratchet's plastic becomes black. Deco changes to red and yellow stripe on the vehicle sides, with a little red and blue on the robot chest. Et voila, Trailcutter/Trailbreaker. On the other hand, if Ironhide is black, you "can't" have two black trucks. So...red becomes green; black windows become blue, add yellow/orange detailing to make Cybertron Overhaul...in a stealth Trailbreaker nod anyway.

    BB - Already have red with CJ in all size classes; already have blue with Hot Shot in deluxe. So...white plastic, stripes become blue, paint the helmet blue in robot mode. Pick out the foglamp details on the bumper and call 'im Searchlight.

    Arcee - Turn blue plastic to yellow, paint the arms purple instead of black. Instant Road Rocket - especially if she takes the other half of Cliffjumper's weapon swap for the sword like the original toy had. Wouldn't be the first time implied gender changed for a character (Hi, Botcon Dragstrip!).

    Vehicon - Easy. Purple plastic becomes black, grey becomes brown. Deco trades purple stripes for neon-green panels for Lockdown. The weird axe-gun-thing still suits.
     
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    Just found Arcee and Cliffjumper today. Arcee has a great sculpt while Cliffjumper has great articulation. I also ordered Ratchet the other day for like over twice the retail price, but whatever, it's Ratchet, lol.

    I plan on getting most (if not all) of these guys. Can't wait for Knock Out and Breakdown.
     
  3. Robogeek28

    Robogeek28 Proud grandpa

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    I can't believe that Breakdown is only gonna be Legion sized, he should be a Commander dammit!!!
     
  4. bignick1693

    bignick1693 Maximal

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    Got cliff and arced. I like them both a lot. Feels like a big step from the dotm figures.
     
  5. UnicronFTW

    UnicronFTW Don't blink.

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    I pray we get a commander Arcee. That size would be perfect.
     
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    0MEGATR0N Robot/Gladiator

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    vehicon is awesome and the rest look good as well.
     
  7. kaiserlisk

    kaiserlisk Squid Kid

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    Well, I'm certainly intent on getting these. Quick question: Are these available only at Toys R Us for now or is it already mass released at Target and Walmart?
     
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    I found mine at TRU (along with Bot-Shots, no deluxes or anything though), and some Targets have them apparently.
     
  9. big hank

    big hank Resident Slacker-Basher

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    Saw them today at Target but forgot my wallet (d'oh!). I'll be back in the morning to gobble them up.

    I was a Minibot fan in the '80s, Micromasters in the '90s, Legends in the '00s.

    Safe to say I'm a big Cyberverse fan now, can't wait to troop build my Vehicons!
     
  10. Prime Jetscream

    Prime Jetscream HE PULLS THE STRINGS AND HE MAKES THEM RING

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    I went to target today, nothing but Bee.

    Should'a got Cliff and Arcee when I had the chance, those figs look the best.
     
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    Switchblade Well-Known Member

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    I found most of wave 1 today and picked up Cliffjumper and Vehicon (wanted Arcee, too, but they didn't have her at that Target). Since I had no interest in the movie, this is my first exposure to Cyberverse (although I do have some Universe and RotF Legends). I'm kind of in love and am trying to resist the urge to go out and buy all the others tomorrow.

    Vehicon is neat. His sculpt is very very cool, I like the paint, and his alt mode is seriously badass. I wish his arm articulation was better though, or that there was at least something better to do with the car roof so that his arms would at least bang into stuff less often. The transformation is pretty basic, but I still kinda want two more of him. And some of the jet version.

    Cliffjumper is freaking amazing. I've barely put him down since I opened him up. His deco is a bit plain, but the articulation is great and his transformation is really creative and fun. This guy is so much fun I can't believe it - I actually want to not only get more Cyberverse figures, but I really want to give the show a second chance now, too.

    Looks like I'm all in on this. Bring on the Commanders.
     
  12. theestampede

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    like the look of all these guys cept for bee, who I'll probably get just to have the whole crew.

    Looking forward to wheeljack the most. Not sure why, but that design seems to translate to plastic form really well.
     
  13. wolfe

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    I have wave one legions (except for bb). Love them.

    Already started. Have 3 vehicons now.
     
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    As much as I want to get into Prime Cyberverse, I think it's going to have to be a pass for me, simply because their prices in Australia are nothing short of daylight robbery. No commander is good cost only a couple dollars less than a deluxe.
     
  15. drsyn

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    He might turn into a taller Legion figure like Dotm Crowbar.


    I really can't wait to see what CV Commanders Ultra Magnus, Dreadwing and Skyquake look like.
     
  16. Dachande

    Dachande MULTI-QUOTE- USE IT. Super Mod TFW2005 Supporter

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    Sounds like the army-building may get a bit out of hand with Vehicons. I usually only get one of every Cyberverse/Legends figure, and couldn't find the Vehicon (surprise, surprise) at retail. I just hope Hasbro releases them in a better case assortment so those of us that don't need multiples don't get shafted.

    Cliffjumper does have a good bit of articulation, but I just don't like it all that much. He looks really odd with the tiny horned head and snowshoes as feet.

    Personally, Megatron and Optimus will be the ones I snag on sight over any other releases. Their commander figures look amazing, and will be the official leaders of my Legends/Cyberverse armies.
     
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    to quote pokemon = gotta catch em all
     
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    Anyone know the price for the vehicle sets?
     
  19. CyrDraconis

    CyrDraconis Well-Known Member

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    I'd venture $30-ish USD like the DOTM Ark started out.
     
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    Really? I'm assuming they're $20-ish because they look smaller than the Ark but look bigger than the six $15 playsets. I hope they're not $30 though. I'll probably have to skip the Wheeljack set if they're that much.