pertaining to the "kid"... he's a kid, mixing it up in here with us old farts - give him some leeway and quit picking on him... all your posts combined are a greater hindrance to the game than his one or two comments...

as for the rules updated... really?

while I am one of the many that like to see the game flowing like a great damn broke wide open with challenges and successful counters - it is still an actual game that stems from the old "keep a way" schoolyard activities. it is the nature of such to do what Tekering is doing, while slowly (be it glacier-paced  ) posting easier figures... to demand someone to give up the king-of-the-hill title simply because you want to have a chance to stand tall isn't in the spirit of the game.

and like all actual games, things aren't meant to be fair, they're meant to be challenging... what Tekering is doing is perfectly legal with his challenges.

personally I think Tekering lives by the quote of Ricky Bobby's Father - "If you ain't first... yer' last!!!"  

 

IV got extras of them. Never mind there motors don't work.

 

So will we be macking this a rule/gentlemen's agreement?

 

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1051986-combiner-wars-brawl-package.html

Just wait until someone gets this first  

 

Lol.

 

On the subject of posting a figure that most/all are likely to have: There's genuinely no such thing. Look around at this fandom. Transformers has been around for thirty years and has probably produced a literal million different figures over its dozens of toylines (whether or not you include third party figures). We're all different ages and began collecting at different times and have different tastes.

Some of us have a vast abundance of G1 figures; some don't own a single G1 toy. Some of us were first introduced to Transformers during Beast Wars or Beast Machines and have a full cartoon cast on our shelves; some avoid beasts like the plague. Some of us started collecting during the Unicron trilogy and those figures are the beat-up toys of our childhoods; some only have an odd Cybertron toy here or there because it represented a beloved G1 character. Some of us adore the Animated toyline for its unique aesthetic and impressive engineering to render that aesthetic in plastic; some think it looks utterly ridiculous. Some of us collect only Masterpiece or Masterpiece-styled figures for their high quality collector value; some simply couldn't afford to spend $100+ on one toy even if we wanted. Some of us are constantly out toy-hunting for the Generations or RID 2015 figures out right now; some only care to scour eBay and the Junkion Exchange in hopes of acquiring older figures that they missed out on in the past.

Ultimately, there is no "average Transformers collection" to use a basis for recognizing a figure that many of us would surely own. Every collection is as unique as the collector who has been building it up for however long he has been collecting - be it three months or three decades. If any change to the rules is made, I don't think the rule to post "a figure everyone probably has" can ever work. Each of us will have a uniquely different idea of what that figure could be.

I think our best bet would be to say that, after a certain amount of time, the game changes from "find that Transformers figure" to "find that name." The person in control of the game should post a figure of a mainstream character, someone who is a lead or supporting cast member in multiple different series. A Starscream, a Hotshot, a Prowl, a Nemesis Prime... someone who has a vast abundance of toys bearing the same name (for practical purposes, prefixes like "Autobot" Jazz should be ignored). The counter can be any figure representing a character who shares that name.

Example: After having control for 3-5 days, player 1 could post his G1 Scourge and say "Now it's time to find that NAME - first person to counter with a SCOURGE wins control of the game!" Player 2 could counter it with his RID Scourge. As long as the toy (not the character it represents) shares a name, the counter would be legal (so G1 Scourge couldn't be countered with Transformers Legends Black Convoy, for example). This way, the game wouldn't lock up, and the general spirit of the game would be preserved.

Thoughts?

 

I think others would just prefer something like this.

Day 1- post what ever you want (within rules)
Day 2- try posting maybe a official figure or a figure from a popular 3rd party company
Day 3- post a official hasbro figure that's wide spread so no "Japan exclusives"
Day 4- for whatever reason the 3rd counter went uncountered post the same figure but say it can be any character using this mold. If tha figure has no repaints then A. Give up control or B.try something recent but not new. Ex (CW silverbolt)

 

Regional bias much?

Difficulty is so relative it's not funny

If we're gonna vote, my vote says don't "fix" what's not broken

I haven't countered in a few weeks, but that's all part of the game, increasing accessibility by introducing rules that take the challenge out of the game is a slippery slope, next thing you know we will have micro-transactions, and it'll be pay to win...

Wait what was I saying?

Oh yeah, I like the game the way it is, and as Ikkstack pointed out, very few people have gone over your "limit" within the last year anyway, so what would it accomplish, when it's already a non issue?

 

It would be one rule.
And if the limit hasn't been gone over so much then why would this rule affect people?

 

I've only been following this game for this last year, and only decided to start playing a couple months ago, but I think we should just leave things the way they are and just recommend (not enforce) that people vary it up with their toys, to keep it entertaining to the spectators and players. Because if no one else has a particular type of toy, then the next one should be from a different era or series.
24 hours can be a long time to wait for people who are logging onto this site daily (or several times a day, based on the number of posts).

It is impossible to know what is "common" so just keep it varied instead. If you own a lot of one type of toy (from a particular series or producer), use one from a completely different source/series next time. This game has been going for three years now - it's not going anywhere, so there will be time later to post the others. (or if you really want to show off your collection of a particular series, post up a group photo that includes the toy you are playing for the rest of us to also admire and comment on - the best of both worlds)

"Common" is such a subjective term... I've played items that I didn't think anyone else had (but someone did), and then I've played or seen items that I was sure someone had (but didn't). Aim for varied instead, as there is 31 years of Transformers series to play with here, from two main sources (Hasbro & Japan), plus all that third party stuff... I think, keep it interesting by surprising us with something completely unrelated each day.

Adding time limits isn't going to work either, because different people have different levels of patience (or guilt). I felt bad about having a second or third day in a row because it slowed down the game, so it should just be about judging the mood of the other people.
I have a list of toy photos that I can play, broken up into obscure/hard and mainstream/easy... so that I can have some personal fun with something oddball first, and then let others have fun by going with something easy on the second or third day (depending on the reception of my first item), to get the game moving again.

Just my 2 cents, as a newb to the game.

 

I don't play as much as I'd like (really need to catalog my collection   ), but I read just about every post. I vote against any rule change. I think they're fine as is, and I'd rather not over complicate the game further.

 

I'd definitely go for leaving things how they are as in general here people are self moderating, I've not really seen many people monopolise the thread for over 3 days, most people are well aware not to just keep posting the rarer toys so I'm really not sure it needs making official.

 

We've gone over this many times already, kid. Your country is not the center of the world, as much as you'd like to believe it is.

Hasbro figures are no more "widespread" in Japan than TakaraTomy figures are in the States.

Well stated, sir.  

Oh no, gentlemen won't be macking on the ladies.  

Seriously, though, after three uncountered challenges, the fourth is always really easy. That's how everyone's played the game for the past year, myself included.
Having said that, here's my fourth consecutive challenge:



Mastermind Creations Reformatted R-20N, "Nero Rex."

This may be the most difficult challenge I've ever posted in this thread -- an expensive (and practically unobtainable) third-party Singapore event-exclusive limited release that has yet to even be solicited to retailers outside of Asia -- but, in keeping with the spirit of the game, I will also accept the standard-release "Feral Rex" as a counter, which any self-respecting Transformers collector already has in their possession.*  



Thus ends my latest reign of terror.  

*Except Yaujta, of course. I respect his objections to IPI on ethical grounds.

 

Because an enforced rule, and an implied or suggested one, have various levels of efficacy, and those as you've written, have a substantial bias towards NA players, when even without that no "JP exlusives" on the third day BS, we have been doing fine

Think of this "rule" more like tipping, it's not illegal to leave no tip, and yet most people leave tips, and those who don't are usually regarded as wrong not to leave one, no enforcement is needed

Besides which, what you think of as common, may not be common to me, and vice versa, even within the same country, such things as that aren't always agreed upon, so there is no way to say what is common, without posting figures that have recently been countered by active participants

Which would defeat the purpose of the game, would you rather see the same damn figures posted ad nauseam, to facilitate what you think is common, or just let the game play out?

me? I prefer the latter

 

Is it bad I actually thought you were gonna use that as a counter?

 

I'm just tired of such a slow paced game. Games aren't meant to be fair but there useless if there boring.

 

kid has a point...

Ted, I have neither the new SG version or the regular feral rex... never really liked Predaking myself? I always felt it was like when a movie tried to outdo itself with a sequel that was soo impossible to believe that it was inconceivable... really, beasts larger than the leaders themselves, and combined they actually "sat" and "sicked" on command... yeah, Predaking never had my vote, especially for his size.

if Predaking was half the size of Bruticus, I'd probably be more inclined to not only accept him, but feel the NEED for him in my collection. scale and all.... you get the jist.

 

You're right, they aren't meant to be fair, if you understand that, why are you so insistent on changing them to suit YOUR tastes

That is some straight up hypocrisy right there

 

think about what he said... there's actual depth there... if something is boring, it really isn't entertaining on any level - it's all about the individuals perspective... if Ted posted each individual SG Rex figure for the next 5 (6?) days, would you not feel the same way?

I have no qualms about owning the "Hill", but I'd hate to see the hill itself destroyed so everyone was equal from the center on outward - then it would really be boring.

 

I'm sorry, I forgot to update the rules when Tek? or maybe when brr was kicked way back when.. I have since updated the rules. (no I don't remember who's names are what).