The G1-Focused Masterpiece Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Superquad7, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. scoobsterinc

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    Galvatron soundwave or ultra magnus I would expect
     
  2. Knightdramon

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    The only "mistake" Takara has made with the MP line thus far was the first, rushed out issue of MP09 and the fact that they acknowledged no mistake or spare parts offerings on their own.

    Toy designs and prototypes change more often than what we know, Takara probably rushed the prototype of MP03 Starscream and changed it later on.

    I see no fault with MP10 Convoy...besides the fact that they reissued MP01 six months before Convoy for the last time. 2.0 versions occur frequently in the toy business. Sometimes the 2.0 version is for a 10$ figure [...Animated Samurai Prowl, for instance], sometimes it's for an 100$ figure [Yamato's VF1 1/60 line] and sometimes it's for a 250+USD figure [Hot Toys, Takara and so on].
     
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    Maybe we'll get some out of the MP11 mold? After all, Takara does love repaints...and Coneheads would sell.
     
  4. wildfly

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    All been alluded to. Although supposedly Galvatron and Magnus were pushed back, whilst Soundwave was bought forward.




    IIRC, Takara apparently did directly replace defective units for some consumers. Whether this was with the 'proper' revised verison, or interim units (possibly still partially defected), and how many numbers, i don't know.

    Mp Seekers: They ditched the more cartoon accurate mold, ditched the cartoon deco in favor of something apparently more realistic, handed the design over to Shoji Kawamori. A somewhat skeptical evaluation might be that they were more interested in attracting Macross collectors. And then they let it out in that greenish-grey color.....



    I think, Tcracker did tell us they weren't on the cards, but it's apparent there has been an about turn somewhere along the line.
     
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    Though I remain curious about Takara's views on the Coneheads, I've been waiting and hoping for official versions of Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust to buy and hope Takara reconsiders them for a release in the line down the road.

    How much they'd sell though, given they're not the same in name value as much as Skywarp and Thundercracker are, along with the presence of the iGear Seekers, I'm not sure.
     
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    True about the name thing, but I think they'd sell well enough. They just need to try it & see.
     
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    I got a direct quote from amiami back then stating that Takara did not acknowledge any returns or defective merchandise on Rodimus...
     
  8. wildfly

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    Was having a bit of a fiddle with MP11 at lunch time.

    If and when they get to Thundercracker and Skywarp, would be nice if they get unique face sculpts.

    Not the exaggerated alternate faces used on previous versions, but something different enough if you look closely.





    Slightly disappointed, but not entirely surprised.
     
  9. payton34

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    Whatever small chance there may have been in the past for Takara to make the coneheads, I'd say it's pretty much a dead issue now because of iGear. What could Takara do, outside of creating an entirely new mold, that would differentiate the figure from the iGear coneheads?

    Plus, it's been said numerous times before that the villain characters don't sell as well in Japan. That's why we've only seen Megatron (leader) and Starscream (2nd in command) so far, then Skywarp & Thundercracker came about because the mold was already created and the repaint costs were fairly minimal. Then there is the rumor of a forthcoming Galvatron, another leader. Not to imply that Takara is above asking customers to buy a new version of a previously issued figure, but at least with Prime it's a brand new mold, and with Starscream it's slightly modified and has extra accessories (crown, etc). Not to mention that they are main characters, two of the most recognizeable in the series.

    With the coneheads, they are second-tier (arguably third-tier) characters and I would imagine that most Masterpiece collectors have already snatched them up from iGear since the likelihood of ever seeing them produced by Takara was so slim. Also, since they are not really "main" characters, it's not very likely that those who already own the coneheads would double-dip for Takara's version just because they're "official."

    It's one thing to double-dip on a new Optimus Prime figure, it's another thing to ask somebody to fork over another $130+ for Dirge.
     
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    There's another MP DIRGE??? GIMMIE!!!!

    I think, the fact that new tooling would be needed for each, and the relative lack of recognition to which you referred, might stop Takara from releasing them.

    Might. This thread is a lot of guesswork at times.
     
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    Especially since the reveal of Sidewipe..
     
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    At times? All the time. Even the "insider statements" are highly suspect and prove to be incorrect (or, if I'm being charitable, deliberately misleading) more often than not.
     
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    Indeed - all the time. Still, it does say "speculation" on the door, so I guess it's always going to be pinch-of-salt stuff in here :) 

    Speaking of which (and because Payton's last post made me think of it) - the new MP Megatron. TCracker, you still around (I know you're over in Radicons from time to time)? If you've heard anything about when that might now see the light of day.. or if anyone has their ear to the ground at Takara..

    Clearly it's been put off while the MP Car Robots Experiment takes place, but IIRC the last we heard suggested MP Megs V2 was basically good to go..
     
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    We can get characters like Sideswipe, who was never expected, yet some of ya'll still believe the Coneheads - which are easy repaints/retools - are far-fetched? I'd heard somewhere that we MIGHT get them out of the MP11 mold...I hope so, because my iGear Ramjet wont match my Seekers when I get MP11 & MP11S. But oh well. If we get them, yay. If we don't, oh well, more money to put somewhere else.
     
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    there should be a insider cred thread.
     
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    So...I'm guessing we'll hear about a US release of MP10 next week at BotCon?
     
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    i hope so , i wouldnt mind a 2nd one at a lower price.
     
  18. Jaicen

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    :horse: 
     
  19. wildfly

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    IF there's no announcement at Botcon, it doens't necessarily mean it isn't happening.... they've been spreading product announcements over other conventions/events too.


    I think i can completely understand why the proverbial horse is being flogged.
     
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    Very good points made here Afterburner. The Masterpiece line is intended to be as accurate as possible to the cartoon/comic world as possible, and use the same car parts, gun parts, truck parts, plane parts, etc as the original character had. The CHUG line has given us (for example), a good updated version of both Sideswipe and Sunstreaker (my two favorites of the line), as well as great updates of Tracks, Wheeljack, etc. The CHUG line provides updates that have features both cartoon like, as well as a blend of new updates, where as Masterpiece is all about vintage g1 cartoon accurate as possible figures.