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Old 01-30-2013, 03:46 PM   #7161
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I'm very curious to see how will they do the minibots.
They're supposed to have chibified alt modes. Will VW still put up a fight if Takara makes them toy/cartoon accurate?
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:59 PM   #7162
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I would think thats the loophole that Takara should use legally. Bumbebee isnt really a VW bug...he just kinda resembles one. I mean, is MP10's alt mode a real truck? Not really, its made up.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:06 PM   #7163
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I would think thats the loophole that Takara should use legally. Bumbebee isnt really a VW bug...he just kinda resembles one. I mean, is MP10's alt mode a real truck? Not really, its made up.
Freightliner C.O.E.(Cab Over Engine) But then again the original toy was fairly accurate as the same thing.



The only real thing that deviates is the legs, but then again that is the normal spot for deviation on a prime mold. The Bumblebee toy on the other hand was based on a toy with a pullback motor and a place to weight the back end with a coin so it would wheelie when released... the throttlebots actually got fairly close to what the original bumblebee was designed after! In the Cartoon Bumblebee scaled to probably a half sized VW that was penny racer shaped.

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Old 01-30-2013, 04:13 PM   #7164
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right, but MP 10 doesnt try to be identical like MP Lambor for instance. Did Takara have to get permission to make it?
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:17 PM   #7165
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right, but MP 10 doesnt try to be identical like MP Lambor for instance. Did Takara have to get permission to make it?
I don't think they needed a license in order to make MP-10.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:31 PM   #7166
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I don't think they needed a license in order to make MP-10.
PROBABLY not. There's no logo on it, and even though it DOES look a lot like a the cab it's based on, it could be another, or just a close approximation. I don't know that the truck manufacturer has a strong case here.

Jazz and Bumblebee, though - I think it's a harder argument to make. Porsches and VW's are pretty distinctive vehicles with certain design cues that resonable people could say "yeah, that's a Porsche/VW Beetle" (this being the standard for Copyright/Trademark disputes).
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:57 PM   #7167
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But anyway .... guess we're up to MP20 now, more or less, so if this was effectively the halfway point, and you could only choose twenty more for the MP line, who would you want to see get the treatment?

For me, I base a lot of it on how well I feel existing representations serve my fan love of a character. So for example, whilst I worship Hound and Jazz, they're A.W.O.L. purely because their Henkei/Universe figures are so great.

And as for 3P, well, Huffer is served well by igear Rager. Shockwave's catered for too now Quakewave looks like being a more than adequate stand in. The 3P insecticons however, don’t quite give me the vibe of their ‘toon selves, so they’re included here. And so on ...

Anyway, my dearly hoped for twenty:


‘BOTS:

1.Skyfire
2. Springer
3. Magnus
4. Ironhide/Ratched
5. Mirage
6. Cliffjumper
7. Swoop (second iconic Dinbot,imo, if I had to choose one more after Grimmy.)
8. Sunstreaker
9. Blaster



and ‘CONS:

10. Megs v2.
11. Reflector
12. Blitzwing
13. Astrotrain
14. Shrapnel
15. Bombshell
16. Kickback
17. Galvatron
18. Scourge
19. Cyclonus
20. Devastator.

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Sneaky, counting six Constructicons as Devastator!

Good list though. If it could only be 20, I would like to see...

1. Skyfire (deserves a toon accurate toy after all these years)
2. Jazz
3. Mirage
4. Wheeljack
5. Trailbreaker (and thus Hoist)
6. Ironhide (= Ratchet)
7. Sunstreaker
8. Hound
9. Bumblebee
10. Inferno (= Grapple)
11. Tracks
12. Arcee (honestly though, an upscaled KO off the MGT one would do, it's perfect apart from size)
13. Ultra Magnus
14. Megs v2
15. Reflector
16. Blitzwing
17. Astrotrain
18. Galvatron
19. Scourge
20. Cyclonus

The bolded ones are MPs who I think are high on TT's list and we definitely will see regardless.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:17 PM   #7168
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Sneaky, counting 3 Autobots as NOTHING!?

I like your list. I'd drop Tracks for Cliffjumper and have to axe Scourge, Arcee, and Inferno for Insecticons! Is there anyway to make the list 25 to add newly scaled Dinos? or 4 slightly shorter Dinos and get a Devastator?!

Lets just make the count 30 and call it a day!
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:25 PM   #7169
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In truth tho, all I will be collecting and really want is S1. I'm sure Galv and UM gotta get in there too but I may pass cause this venture is way past my original finanicial assessment and comfort zone. I don't collect (rather haven't been collecting) and MP-10 at a TRU price got me into it.

Damn it Lambor! You changed the MP rules!!!! My wallet says "NO! ... but my heart says "YES"!
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:29 PM   #7170
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it's a rough road ahead for us. Financially.


It's funny how many of us are collecting the exact same way- S1 only. Though I will have to make space for Magnus and a new Hot Rod if they do em, as they're pretty sweet characters.
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