I don't really know how you're figuring that. He turns into a cannon tank thing, and while there are some challenging bits, that's nothing they haven't tackled before. Hell, the hid Inferno's ladder and made an awesome Megatron, I figure they can make Galvatron. What're you thinking would be so hard?

 

The dimensions between a cannon and a Robot mode for one. Galvatrons stern is huge and in cannon mode it is noticibly slimmer.

 

Oh, I seriously doubt that's a big challenge. All that'd take is a little parts-forming or even a segment that closes in on itself in the transformation. That'd probably allow for containing some of the legs and creating that bulk/taking it away between modes. Consider how much the vans were able to contain a lot of robot in there, or how big the F-15s are as jets, but collapse quite a bit into robots.

 

Last week to me was the slowest week at work. With les than a month away from the big reveal will be even slower.

 

In theory yes. In practice two 3p releases and I have yet to see it executed flawlessly, and given the recent design choices of TT, call me skeptical if they can pull it through right now.

 

They are not TT though.

While I think Sovereign looks great in bot mode, his alt is utter trash. And to get there? Hell itself. One of the reasons why I'm selling mine, just can't stand that alt mode (and the fact that the Fusion cannon falls of, no matter how firm you press it.). Juts like Megs, TT will knock it out of the park IMO.

Still a great looking Galvs though, credit whet its due. But the amount of bloated diecast seems really too much. Like, it's not even THAT necessary. Sometimes I think FT just puts it for the hell of it, like just to be known as the company that uses "the most" diecast instead of choosing specific, right places.. if that makes sense.

Full disclaimer, I'm getting their Skyfire, and possibly Omega. That is, unless TT announced theirs.

 

Well, not to troll the 3P faithful here, but there's a reason their sales all die off when Takara drops the official version, you know?

Takara did an awesome Megatron, ol' Galvatron will be cake compared.

 

Well given that the recent releases - Megatron, Fuso bros and the BWs are the most screen accurate in both modes we've ever had, I'd say the opposite - I'd be surprised if they can't pull off a perfect Galvatron.

 

Not 3p faithfull. Taste and quality faithfull though. The only reason everything else dies is because fanboys. Also I would say 'dies' is a pretty hefty word given the success a lot 3p has with figures and fixing TTs mistakes.

That said calling Megatron awesome (and this is personal opinion) with all his aesthetic and not so aesthetic discrepancies is a bit...excagerating. Its a very good figure but far from what it was supposed to be... In fact it was Megatron that made me lose faith in Takara, the last nail in the coffin you might say (not that I am not buying TT figures). They do have the potential to create something perfect and they seem to just shoot themselves in the foot with their decisions. For me the best thing they produced in this line so far has been soundwave.

If they make Galvatron as he must be made I will be over it. But until then I call my right to be skeptical.

Beast wars I have no opinion and I am glad to hear they are as good as expected. G1 screen accurate is something I have been contemplaining. There is screen accurate good and screen accurate bad. IMHO Megs was screen accurate bad, while saying Hot rod was screen accurate good. As did soundwave. If they can pull off Galvatron perfectly, I will be the first to say that they did.

 

I beg to differ, greatly, if anything MP-36 has just shown how vastly superior TT's engineering is relative to the third party options out there, it's not even close considering how they were able to make a screen accurate figure in both modes with a complex but very intuitive transformation. Given how impressive TT's effort was with Megatron, a very complex character, I definitely believe they will pull off a much better and more screen accurate Galvatron than the current third party options.

Wow, are you my long lost brother, I thought the same exact thing before I sold off my Sovereign, I sold it off after only a day of owning it, like you said, amazing robot mode, sub par alt-mode at best and MEH transformation, the transformation particularly when you consider the reward...that alt-mode was the deal-breaker. I'm no engineer and I know Floro Dery cheated a bit but Galvatron shouldn't be that difficult of a figure for TT to figure out a fairly intuitive transformation by their lofty standards, of course. It was the first time in my life that the transformation of a figure has broken a figure for me.

I sold it off with no regrets whatsoever and after handling MP-36 I'm under the impression TT's Galvatron will obliterate FT's and that's worrying because Sovereign actually has a beautiful bot mode....TT is just that good.

 

Ever since that promo video that highlighted the engineering everyone is calling out engineering. Complex engineering when its TT, too dificult and time intensive transformation when its 3p....
Also given the problems I had seen first hand with it, I beg to differ. Seriously in 2017 having moldlines in such a piece?
It finaly boils down to taste so I can say to each its own. I am happy people enjoy it but all I am saying we should not turn a blind eye.

 

No one is turning a blind eye to anything, people are aware, but the positives of the figure by far outweigh the negatives, the only current flaw with Megatron is that he might be prone to scuffing due to his rather complex but intuitive transformation with lots of moving parts. But for what it's worth I would rather take a couple of scuffs on a figure than a figure in Apollyon, which as been known to snap in half after one or two transformations.

I wonder where Apollyon owners honestly find the gull to say owners of MP-36 turn a blind eye when some of them can accept figures like the one shown below and still be like; "I wonder when XTB will send my replacement waist!"......talk about turning a blind eye.

  

X-Transbots MX-I Apollyon (MP Megatron)

True story......

 

There are as many snapped in half Apollyons as many mp36 had issues like in the picture I uploaded.That is like 3 on each side? And I am sorry bro but if anyone brokes apollyon in two transformations he will brake mp36. So yeah calling the kettle back. I see yet again the intuitive transformation comment, yet I see no justification for it. You were all talking about Apollyon scuffed but you are willing to forgive it on a TT figure because its TT..... What is exactly the intuitive thing we havent seen before btw?

EDIT: There is no definitive cons outweight the pross and vise versa. What makes you puke might make me consider it awesome and vice versa. The moment people realise this they stop pointing out opinions like x is crap, y is awesome without hands on experience, and we will all have a better time without the need for crusades to flare up.

 

Yeah, FT loves them some diecast. Their Insecticons (which I own) weigh a ton. I know some TF collectors like diecast because it gives a figure "heft." Are they using these figures as paperweights or doorstops? Maybe I'm weird, but I like a TF because of the aesthetics and/or the transformation, and not necessarily the materials it's made of. Of course you want the plastic to be quality, and diecast to be used judiciously if needed, for balance or whatever. But I don't need diecast to make me think a figure is "premium." Same with rubber tires.

 

Yeah, whenever I see "heft" and "premium" on the same sentence it makes me cringe. These are transformers, meant to be transformed (played with?) and the amount of diecast on some of the FT figures makes things just not as fun! These are not Chogokins, these are transformers. The rubber tire fetish also makes me lol. It's non existent to me, but I can see how some might like that sort of thing (and are far from to humid weather). But the diecast is just over the top with FT.

For their sake, I home Omega has zero. I don't need a statue.

But yeah, TT you listening? throw us a bone here so all this 3P talk goes away! PLEASE BE RODIMUS V2! (3, actually)

 

I have to say, I don't really see how you being disappointed with Megatron - which, yeah, I find boggling - relates to the idea of a Galvatron figure being a disappointment.

Your disappointment in MP-36 being around the breaks that some folks have had is a bit of a long-odds situation though. It became pretty clear pretty quickly that was something that was certainly unfortunate, but not nearly as common as a few folks tried to make it sound. It's also not something I've heard about first hand, so I find it hard to put any faith in it. At this point, one guy could've bought a Megs and broke it in a couple of spots after they gave it to their kid (yes, those geniuses exist). Have you noticed that it's the same couple of pics all the time?

An awful lot of the people posting about it have turned out to be owners of Mightrons, Appolyons, and Despotrons. Those things are going on Facebook groups for some weak prices too. 3P got owned on that one.

 

I have been a lurker for A LONG TIME. But that is now over and plan on participate much more! I do enjoy reading your posts TBH (some are extremely entertaining!), even your not so nice words towards GIGA (I actually like them better than FT, but that's another discussion). I don't get offended over this stuff, so difference of opinions don't matter to me, even if colorful language is used to describe certain figs, so all good!

I consider myself an official only collector, BUT I do buy 3P sometimes (Dinos, figures TT will "likely" never do) But IF they do them, there's no question: The 3P figure gets sold, INSTANTLY. No buts, no nada. GONE before they are even MORE worthle$$. Blind loyalty? Sheep? call it what you want, I want a Transformer. I want a Jazz. Not a toy called "cool music".

Placeholders, so to speak. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Ill get it on the reversal.
So let me get this straight: All the breakages and bad things about Mp36 are all concoted up by owners of 3p figures to discreadit Mp36? And everyone broke Apollyon on their own accord and no breakage came from their kids? Seriously do I even need to begin refuting that? Every single 3p owner ditched theirs for Mp36, why the heck would they trash talk it like that afterwards? I am the only TF collector I know, that I decided to pick Apollyon AFTER I waited and got my hands on mp36 and put them side by side, transformed them and seen whats what.
And every Apollyon after the Second patch had no problems bar exceptions and everyone who hates 3rd party makes it a habbit to trash talk without first hand experience. Hold this and read on.* EDIT: Make that every hater of everything of the oppossite fence of their choice has an opinion without first hand knowledge.

Now that we got that covered.

My dissapointment in Mp36 is not over the breakage. If you had read my earlier replies, my dissapointment has to do with a lot more QC issues at hand, and what I consider to be bad design choices from TT which are not only Mp36 but also Mp10s, Ultra Magnus and many others. Choices that they made and could easily avoid. Megatron was the last of those dissapointments for me. Do I prefer Apollyon? Yes I do. Do I start a crusade for Apollyon like you guys who cant see behind the flaws of your choice and simply tell me that all your figures are quality product with all defects been illusions caused by children and conspiracies?No I dont. I see the flaws of my choice though so theres that at least and the realisation that the possibility of not everything released by any company, no exceptions, been perfect is real.

 

Current collection, got jazz yesturday

 

So, you own MP 36?