The G1-Focused Masterpiece Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Superquad7, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. NoisyDvL5

    NoisyDvL5 Well-Known Member

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    Hey Guys, I'm finally making the leap to Masterpiece, I've been really enjoying my new Sunstorm for the last few days and I've got my fingers crossed that I haven't missed the Thundercrackers at my TRU yet, but I'm wondering about the old WM Skywarp.

    I asked around was told that the MP11 base is better than MP3 and I can believe it having Sunstorm here, but I don't know what that means for me & Skywarp. Should I be looking into picking up an older one secondhand or does anyone think it's likely that MP11 will go black?

    I've got a ton of other MP questions, but I'll leave it there for now. :)  Thanks!
     
  2. dkr7

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    So, could it be that Takara actually teased a MP Shockwave CAD design and then passed it off as a joke to keep hopes down??? I wonder....

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    Looks like a figure to me, it's not a picture of G1 Shockwave or any other Shockwave design i can think of. The legs look like they've been worked on to make them a handle but not be sticks in leg mode. Arms also look like they've been modified for some reason.
     
  3. wildfly

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    W/O meaning to suggest MP11s mold is perfect either, the main issues with the MP3 mold seem to be the hinges for the wings cracking, and the tabs that hold the wings snapping.

    The first one, was solved somewhat by the time they got to WM Skywarp. The second one..... don't know, but the best thing is generally to get the forarms out first, then push the airbrake assembly out through the underside.

    Some people also find hip kibble to be clutter... there is a way of modding the toy if you're feeling brave.

    We don't know what Hasbro are going to do WRT Skywarp... although there is a fairly wide perception that WM Skywarp didn't do well at retail, so TRU may see it as a bad bet.

    Takara... well Tcracker indicated it's not on the cards.

    Did you look at the igear version...PP03d?
     
  4. Sai

    Sai Decepticons always have more fun ;)

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    I'm still hopeful that TT release SW oneday so if you've got plenty of patience then i'd probably say wait on it for a while.But if you really need a SW for your collection right now then i would say maybe go for the igear one.Yes the MP-11 mold is the best one out imo and i absolutely love mine,should be getting my Sunstorm in the next couple of days hopefully :) 
     
  5. TigerBlade

    TigerBlade Prepare for extermination

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    Looks like they've gone like my custom MP Shockwave and placed the hose under the forearm like the cartoon.....so he'll have 'con symbols on his forearms. Doesn't look like there is enough to reach around.

    If so, good news.
     
  6. Sai

    Sai Decepticons always have more fun ;)

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    Hmmmm that MP Shockwave tease could indeed be a figure maybe?! He will come sooner or later,the question is when?! :) 
     
  7. Such Heroic Nonsense

    Such Heroic Nonsense No!

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    Well, a few cassettes, Prowl and Galvatron for the entirety of 2013 is still too slow imo. I stand by my earlier comments that if this line is to seriously step up a gear to move towards anything like a full G1 ensemble in a reasonable timeframe of years, it HAS to aim for something like 4-5 pieces per six months, e.g:


    Jan-Jun 2013

    Cassettes, Prowl/Bluestreak, Galvatron

    July – Dec 2013

    Sunstreaker, Megs V2, 'nother bot car or dino, Shockwave or combiner etc …


    Anything less will keep this thing progressing at a snail's pace and still allow third parties to sneak in.

    You say they have 20 CAD designs all ready, Tcracker (and big thanks for all your hints so far, man ..) - but what’s to stop a knock off Shockwave hitting later in 2013 during, say, their Galvatron marketing window, if they haven’t planned ahead to release him very shortly afterwards or even simultaneously?

    Hell, the tease window for any substantial new MP is nearly always six months of itself! Don't get me wrong, patience IS a virtue, and I love these guys for what they've given us so far (plus, Shogo Hasui = legend in my book :bowdown: – lovely, hard-working guy with masses of integrity) but why can't his bosses help him crank things up a gear? And by that I don't mean one, but several. Hegemon is already doing good business where they should have released Megs V2 this year. Ditto Scouting Force/Reflector, Huffer/Rager and Igear's minbots.

    Again, while I'm not against third parties personally and the added colour they bring to the collecting game, Tak.Tom shouldn't have allowed it. These are characters that belong to them and to their legacy. Basically, it's copyright theft every time.

    So let's all hope in 2013 they get 100% behind Hasui and throw a LOT more production and design muscle behind this potentially great line than they've ever done before (my dream? One department under Hasui working dinobots, others triple changers and combiners, etc.) Masterpiece IS basically G1 now, and G1 is Transformers: not Michael Bay, not TF: Prime. These are the truest incarnations of the 'bots we, the original fanbase, know and love. They deserve their full attention.

    Me: I'm still hoping for AT LEAST six new moulds per annum starting 2013, as opposed to this year's three, or I can't see how I'll get behind this thing thinking I'll have anywhere near a fleshed out G1 cast before retirement. I'm 35 btw. Going on 65. Rant over. Now get me my carpet slippers, damn it …

    Peace out,
    SHN.



    P.s: Tcracker or the other insider guy ('Hyperoptic'?) can you PLEASE pm me if you have any more positive news about the speed next year of releases and/or what they may be. I’m a moaner, but also a big fat snoop at heart. :p 





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  8. TCracker

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    That is actually one of them.
     
  9. deathsheadII

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    pmsl i thought this the second i read takara had cad designs for loads already! you up for it ? just need someone who's good at designing :lol 
     
  10. Max Rawhide

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    MP-11 is definitely better than MP-3. They fixed many of the problems with the MP-3 mold:
    - the cracking of wingtransformation joint. The joint was too tight meaning there's too much stress on this joint during transformation. This wasn't solved with later releases: I never had the problem with Takara's MP-3 (Greenscream as he's called because of his color), but both my Hasbro Starscream and my MP-7 Thundercracker are close to breaking. (It all depends on how the pin is inserted.) It is however rather easily fixable: you either have to file away some plastic from the black connector piece (making it shorter) or from the surrounding plastic so the ends of black connector piece don't push against the other plastic causing stress.
    - the hib kibble is removed making for a better silhouette and better poseability
    - more stable and easier to stand
    - etc... etc... (see the review topic on MP-11)

    I hope we get a MP-11 mold Skywarp, but TT seems uncertain judging by TCracker's comments (which I think is a shame) and Hasbro is always problematic and unpredictable. Apparently walmart had to seriously clearance their MP Skywarp stock to get rid of it. And you got to wonder how eager Hasbro is to release a character they already released in a modified mold. They didn't go for the already released MP Starscream with this modified mold, but for the unreleased MP Thundercracker.

    A goof alternative is iGear. They've made several modifications to the MP-3 mold seriously improving it. Their version is easily superior to MP-3 and on some fronts even better than MP-11. It's also reasonably priced ($ 100 shipped from their site -- be warned, their products are great but their customer service is very often problematic). Only problem will be that you don't have a matching set.



    No, it's better. At least the mold is much better. Every issue you can think of with the MP-3 mold has been fixed. This also happened with MP-11, but iGear fixed things that MP-11 didn't: they moved the narrow bridge that the head has to move through making him easier to transform, and the rear wings are more solid with iGear since they're locked in.

    The colors are very bland though
     
  11. Sai

    Sai Decepticons always have more fun ;)

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    This! :) 
     
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    More than you can imagine, but I reckon a lot will not see the light of the day due to many reasons - cost concerns, design flaws, durability issues etc..
     
  13. Sai

    Sai Decepticons always have more fun ;)

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    Wow that many! What i would give to be a fly on the wall at Hastak right now! :) 
     
  14. Grimmjow

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    DO IT! I support this idea 100%!

    That Shockwave is actually one of the many designs you mentioned? O.O
     
  15. Transbot90210

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    I can not believe this is the first time the connection has been made.

    Breakdown is a Lamborghini and lookie what contract Takara just got. Add this to the Cons Cons Cons and Medium sized clues we got and I think I had my first official nerdgasm.

    You have some issues with other licenses like Ferrari and Porsche. I know the Ferrari license was very strict in the TF movie but what about those small model car companies that make offically licensed Ferrari model cars? I doubt the condition would be as strict on a toy only figure vs a world wide box office smash film release. Talking myself through it, I think TT will gain the Ferrari license.

    Proche. I don't know much about cars but I think I heard Lamorghini and Porsche are all under the same banner. WWII was about 70 years ago, I personally think that is enough time to drop the whole "war association" game. We also know that Porshe was in the first TF movie not as a bot but as product placement. Add to this that the TF brand has proven itself to be very profitable since 2007 with block buster movies and higher than anticipated toys sales (recall what happened with the movie one toys). Money talks and I think TF's have enough of it to sway Porsche's decision.

    The rest are a Formula 1 car and a Kenworth truck. I don't know what the price tag or availability is on these licenses but I also think that the Laborghini license opened a huge door for anything else.

    The thought of an MP Menasor is making my face go like the pic TC posted lol. So I can see Breakdown happening because of the whole Lambo thing. The question now is, will he combine? I would like to think with Takara's new outlook on the MP line and the fact that this is a MASTERPIECE line that he will combine. Oh such exciting thoughts.

    One last thought. I really do believe that the sales figures on Sideswipe, Soundwave and Red Alert will determine just what kind of a push the MP line will end up getting. I also believe we are in for a big push, those figure will most definately sell out. You have SS and RA that cater to TF fans and Lamborghini fans and then Soundwave (nuff said on that guy :)  )

    Let's speculate away :D  :D  :D 
     
  16. Trailbreaker77

    Trailbreaker77 Camaro Club! Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

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    Here you go you go you will need to scale down the image but I wanted you to see it before I shrunk it down. Also a different version of your sig.

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  17. Billzilla

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    Traitor is better than Walmart Starscream hands down. I have both. MP-11 vs Traitor is debateable, but Wal-Mart vs Traitor is pretty much a blowout. The reason people are going crazy for Wal-Mart screamer on ebay right now is- I think- because they don't realize he's not the same mold as Thundercracker (or they don't care).
     
  18. TCracker

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    Awesome, Trailbreaker77!
    Much appreciated!!
     
  19. TigerBlade

    TigerBlade Prepare for extermination

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    It isn't....you musn't have been reading the thread fully ;) 

    Post #2821......

     
  20. Transbot90210

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    I did miss all that. I guess I'm still all caught up in the possibility of an MP combiner and Menasor at that.

    You also make a good point with the Porsche license. Not only do you get another Stunticon but also a very iconic character in Jazz. That thought alone leads me to believe that Menasor is pretty much a done deal. And in doing so we also get Jazz.

    This new approach to the MP line is blowing me away more than the 3P movement has. Good to see Takara finally attacking the 3P movement with a collectors line of their own and one that appears to have many releases and not just a couple a year.