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The grand difference?

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Old 09-27-2009, 06:20 PM   #11
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Old 09-27-2009, 06:21 PM   #12
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I'm wondering if there was a mold change during production?
Seems the faces are ever so slightly different.
I know in other production sets (I've been doing production cabinetry for a LONG time) There are at times subtle differences in the way a finished piece can end up due to molding or finishing.
Also looks like the one on the right is a bit faded.
Good finds on both of them though. Gratz.
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Old 09-27-2009, 06:39 PM   #13
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I'm wondering if there was a mold change during production?
Seems the faces are ever so slightly different.
I know in other production sets (I've been doing production cabinetry for a LONG time) There are at times subtle differences in the way a finished piece can end up due to molding or finishing.
Also looks like the one on the right is a bit faded.
Good finds on both of them though. Gratz.
the one on the right is the proper colors, left not so much

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Old 10-14-2009, 10:02 PM   #14
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Headmaster Spike: The Real Deal or Dangerous New Knockoff?

If you got this from the Italian seller "milinguo", you might have some sort of KO on your hands...
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:16 PM   #15
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I don't pretend to have a valid opinion here, I'm just surprized that (if) the one on the left looks like that due to the mold degrading. It looks very different to me. Especially in the face and mid torso.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:27 PM   #16
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actually, after looking at grand and brave on tfu, the one on the right looks "crisper", with sharper angles and lines, than either one. This to me points to either a: there were different quality builds B: Its a KO made by someone who actually molded the thing better than the original C: TFU has KO pics by mistake
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:43 AM   #17
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The right one's a knockoff. It's identical to the knockoff Headmaster Spike I bought. The telltale signs are:

1. The figure is slightly slimmer than all official Headmaster partners.

2. It is slightly taller than all official Headmaster partners.

3. It is incompatible with all official Headmaster bodies, i.e. you can't push it all the way into the slot for the head.

4. One of the two big telltale sign was noticed by fellow forum member Draven: the topmost bar of the pentagons on either side of Spike's chest are perfectly horizontal when they should actually be at an angle.

5. The other major indicator is that the screw holding the figure together is black and flat-headed instead of shiny, metallic, and round-headed.
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Old 10-17-2009, 02:19 AM   #18
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Y'know, I bought a Fortress Maximus on ebay severaly years ago that included a Cerebros and Spike that didn't look like any versions I had ever seen before. They weren't Brave Max and they weren't Grand Max, and they certainly weren't the ones that came with it originally (ie: G1 Fort Max). Cerebros had red arms and legs with blue (regular blue, not light blue or excessively dark blue) "visor" for the Fort Max head. Spike was similarly colored and I've never been able to identify them. I'd include pics, but I had to sell the whole thing to get out of credit card debt.

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Old 11-15-2009, 02:00 PM   #19
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I think some of detailing in the KO looks better than the original. Wow, KOs have come a long way!
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