Nub questions about the Classics line |
03-19-2009, 06:43 AM
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#1 | | Autobot Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Columbus, Georgia Collection Count: 33 | Nub questions about the Classics line So, the classics line originaly came out as a space filler before the first movie, was canceled during the moive and came back after.
Do we already know if Hasbro will be repeating this practice again with the second movie? i understand not wanting to compete with themselves for shelf space, but I really dislike the movie designs. I liked the movie, and enjoeyd it for what it was, but I do not like the Transformers movie designes enough to actualy buy toys of them.
If they're going away for a bit, it's a good thing for me, mainly becuase i've just gottne back into transformers for the first time in close to 15 years, so i can get caught up on the classics figures while the movie line is in full swing.
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If the classics line continues, will we ever see g1 homage figures of characters like jazz, Wheeljack, Arcee, Kup, and many of the others who seem to have been overlooked so far? or is their lack of presence due to some lack of popularity?
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03-19-2009, 08:16 AM
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#2 | | Diaclone Photographer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,497 Location: Pittsburgh News Credits: 1 | Your guess is as good as any.
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03-19-2009, 08:16 AM
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#3 | | Quintesson Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 665 | There has been no official word on the continuation of Universe/Classics after the movie, but my bet is that it most definitely WILL continue in some fashion. The line has been a huge success (as it was last time round) and Hasbro know this. They're not stupid, despite what some fans think.
I think a break from the line is fine. Unlike the wailers and gnashers of teeth, I can see advantages. For new collectors like yourself, there's the obvious advantage you've already given.
If/when it does come back, I think you'll be guaranteed for a Jazz or Wheeljack. I don't think others have been "overlooked" - Hasbro has to release these in some sort of order. If Jazz and Wheeljack had been released, people would be saying "where's Hound and Sideswipe?! Hasblow suckkksss!!!"
Nothing really to do with popularity. Some of the reasoning behind the order include:
-Being able to reuse moulds for multiple characters (e.g. Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen, Ironhide/Ratchet, Sunstreaker/Sideswipe)
- The presence of a similar Transformers toy with the same name in "Animated". This was the reason given for Jazz's delay (but didn't affect Prowl, as Animated Prowl was a completely different vehicle design) My Mate just said he "cant deal with that now!!" |
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03-19-2009, 09:08 AM
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#4 | | Autobot Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Columbus, Georgia Collection Count: 33 | ok, good to know. perhaps with the advent of animated Arcee, we'll see one of her. and perhaps perceptor, and the list goes on and on and on and on...... |
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03-19-2009, 09:59 AM
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#5 | | Junior Smeghead Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,828 Collection Count: not enough :) | I think for legal and business reasons they can't tell us what they have up their sleeves but so far in advanced. It's likely hard at this point to know exactly what demand will be like for the toys from the second movie so my guess is they can't really be totally prepared for the post movie figures until demand for the movie toys has slowed down.
They have given some hints here and there that would seem to indicate that we should see the return of classics/universe at some point but they just can't say when right now and if they can't say when then they can't say who would be in the line up.
Fingers crossed the reason they have been holding back things like a deluxe sized classic style Jazz is because they wanted to save back some figures the fans would go crazy for on a better late than never big 25th line.
With an extra year between live action movies and the fate of a Transformers cartoon sort of up in the air I think the chances of seeing a return of something like the classics/universe line are really good. Even if Hasbro right now can't say just hang in there guys the stuff you want is coming.
But darn that wait is a killer when you don't know how long the wait will last. Maybe by next year's Toy Fair they can tell us something. |
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03-19-2009, 11:40 AM
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#6 | | Elite Guard Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,053 Location: Inside Brave Maximus, MI | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash from Carolina I think for legal and business reasons they can't tell us what they have up their sleeves but so far in advanced. | I find that very hard to believe. It's because they don't want to, for whatever reasons. Other companies not only "show" their hands in ways that seem foreign to Hasbros TF division, but companies like DCD not only do I know what'll be available in September, but I know the case ratios as well. Even Mattel we know their late summer lineups already for some of their products and will know their fall lineups shortly.
Nor is it due to "spoilers", since toys like Devastator and more have already appeared in ToyFare and on TV.
I'd speculate that it's either due to internal conflcits/footdraging/product or brand uncertainty. Really, there is no excuse for us being unsure if there's going to be another wave of Animated, if Classics are going to return, or how long ROTF will be on the shelves. Each and every one of those decisions should have been made last year, and we should know about them by this point.
My bet is that ROTF will be the product on the shelves from their release date through the rest of the year. There will be a few Universe/Classics branded exclusives, but that's probably it. Then sometime in Jan/Feb we'd get the return of Universe/Classics 3.0.
As for who gets released when, it seems that the earlier G1 lineups and the "big names" from other eras are "up to bat first". 
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03-19-2009, 12:05 PM
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#8 | | has that rare Swerve!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,742 Location: Cybertron Collection Count: lost track-gotta go count... News Credits: 2 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Pravus Prime I find that very hard to believe. It's because they don't want to, for whatever reasons. Other companies not only "show" their hands in ways that seem foreign to Hasbros TF division, but companies like DCD not only do I know what'll be available in September, but I know the case ratios as well. Even Mattel we know their late summer lineups already for some of their products and will know their fall lineups shortly.
Nor is it due to "spoilers", since toys like Devastator and more have already appeared in ToyFare and on TV.
I'd speculate that it's either due to internal conflcits/footdraging/product or brand uncertainty. Really, there is no excuse for us being unsure if there's going to be another wave of Animated, if Classics are going to return, or how long ROTF will be on the shelves. Each and every one of those decisions should have been made last year, and we should know about them by this point.
My bet is that ROTF will be the product on the shelves from their release date through the rest of the year. There will be a few Universe/Classics branded exclusives, but that's probably it. Then sometime in Jan/Feb we'd get the return of Universe/Classics 3.0.
As for who gets released when, it seems that the earlier G1 lineups and the "big names" from other eras are "up to bat first". | alot of confidence in Hasbro, huh?
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03-19-2009, 12:31 PM
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#10 | | Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 766 | Hasbro are idiots, look at past sucessful lines to see this (I.E alternators for 1 example) im guessing the movie will be the end of CLASSICS but im pretty Sure Takara will keep the Henkei line alive, at least longer than Hasbro does anyway. i mean for christ sake Hasbro is giving us crap designes we DONT want such as Armada hotshot?...WTF!? and badly colored Dinobot and wierd ass mould cheetor!? WTF WE WANT JAZZ/GRAPPLE and other G1 figures! thats the WHOLE point of the classics line! not to bring in losers from other series who DONT count in the classics line. If hasbro are gona be that dumb they might as well bring over Classics Alternators Prime or Classics Beast Machines Megatron or wheelchair bound Rattrap |
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