this SUCKS

Just finished having a long lengthy discussions in Target today about this topic with my buddy who's manager of inventory.

All my speculation was proven correct on his end and he CONFIRMED that even the company recieving the broken toy would be fully compensated by their insurance plan. He also told me that mostly the insurance compensates for stolen items and thats 90% of what they cover. Also most of those stolen items and thought to be taken by the company's own employee's. Blame your low class slime ball working for target trying to get his own five finger discount. But don't take my word for it, ask around yourself

the toy fell and broke from 3 feet up, no toy transformer should break from that height, it was clearly defective if it broke that easily, and a small child or animal could have choked on the piece that broke off.

I would have returned it too.

mine on the other hand, that was my own fault, and I bought a whole new one and threw the other one out, but kept the accessories.

This one kid doesn't cause price hikes, but multiply that kid by a couple of hundred or a couple of thousand nationwide, and it really does start to become a problem.

I'm not gonna bash the kid, because I can tell he didn't know better. His mom should've, but that's not his fault.

Bottom line:

If he had opened Sunstreaker and the toy's right arm immediately fell off, he should've returned it. If the plastic had been warped, he should've returned it. Basically, any breakage or defect that exists before you open the toy should be completely returnable.

But if you break it, by your own force or your own negligence, by no fault of the toy's construction, then I'm sorry, you're morally obligated to eat the cost of the toy. If you choose to buy another one, you should really pay another $10. The store is out 2 toys, and it is not their fault or the manufacturer's fault. If the kid's mom broke it, she should pay for another one. I've got an alternator Optimus at home that has a broken arm because my wife knocked him off the shelf while dusting. Wal-Mart doesn't owe me a darned thing.

Besides, broken Transformers make GREAT kitbash fodder.

he tell me.

That was the first thing that popped into my head as well. And this one toy isn't going to be the end of the world. But it's teaching the OP to expect that he won't have to deal with the consequences of his (or in this case, his mother's) actions. If parents took the time to actually TRAIN their kids about what was right and wrong, we wouldn't all be sitting here having this argument.

Originally Posted by Toxicon Holy shit, I'm in Peaugh's sig? I have achieved greatness.

Starting the Optimus Prime? I thought it was Original Post or Poster, but that didn't make sense either.

Newest TF Addition: FORTRESS MAXIMUS!!!

Wow so now the kids a thief and his mom is a bad parent. The nerve people have to say the things they do

You know you could also say we wouldnt be having this argument if some other peoples parents trained them not to attack others for believing something different from them. I'm mean seriously guys, if the kid didnt have a problem with it and the store didnt why should you?

My parents did exactly that. I'm stating my opinion, I accept that others have a different one. The question was asked as to whether returning the toy was the right thing to do. There's my answer. I'm not attacking anyone who thinks differently.

And to be perfectly honest, I really don't even care. This thread got so ridiculous so fast it's hard not to jump in with the crazy.

Originally Posted by Toxicon Holy shit, I'm in Peaugh's sig? I have achieved greatness.

Word, homie. It's not a broken Sunstreaker, it's the basis for Tigertrack.

Then techinically, it's the insurance company that is out the money. See, somehow, somewhere, someone loses money based on his actions. But, hey, we don't care if the big bad corporation or the evil insurance company is out money

Try dropping a plastic toy with as many parts as a transformer from three feet onto a hard floor and see what happens. It may not break everytime, but I bet its at least fifty-fifty.

Yeah, that's the problem. Parents dont take time or effort to discipline their kids anymore. I agree as in my previous pots that the OP can't necessarily take all the blame because he didn't know better, and I know he is a kid. But if people are held accountable for their actions, it would make things much, much better in our society. Those of you that say its ok to return a broken item that is damaged due to your own actions are wrong and are contributing to this delinquency. But I guess it makes you badass and awesome to cheat Hasbro or Walmart or the Insurance companies or whomever