this SUCKS

Him returning the toy his mom broke isn't nearly as bad (if it is bad at all) as the people, including myself, who have bought toys from Heero, etc. on eBay. Those are stolen directly from the factory floors.

In the end, at most per month, there's probably only a handful of cases like these and it doesn't hurt Walmart's bottom line at all. So no harm done.

Im 16 and if a toy breaks i usually try to fix it or live with it. I once returned a toy I borke, but it was a MOTU toy thats wing came of 5 minutes after i opened. To this day im sure there was something wrong with that wing....but I digress. Yeah returning toys he breaks is stealing, but theres a crap load of more stuff worse that returning broken toys.Yeah its a bad thing to do, but its his desicion to do it so lets not give him flak about it.

Not to go off on a totally different tanget but who are you to call heero and other Ebayers theives. You have absolutely no idea how those items are obtained. Since none of us work in a chinese toy factory then none of us really have an ablility to know whats going on there. Maybe employees can buy things for cost there. Maybe they are allowed to buy the defective units. Maybe they can keep it if they make it on there lunch. You have no Fing clue. Some of these ebayers get 10 or 20 of a figure in one shot, do you think there hiding them under their shirt?

Obviously Hasbro wouldnt be to happy about toys that are not final beind sold to and judged by american consumers. That doesn not mean they were stolen. It amazes me how people online are so quick to judge each other. "You stole that your a thief!!!!!" Come on guys dont be so silly

That's usually to do with the different types of plastic used. Cheap plastics tend to be thinner, which is why you'll find they have pretty bad flash as they can get into the seams and slides between the sides of a tool. Also, prototype runs to test a tooling are usually done with plastics of a lesser quality to save costs, which is why it's not best to judge an upcoming figure based on the plastics of a prototype.
As for heat, injection molding generally has a cooling system that quickly sets the plastic after it's been injected into the mold and the cooling can be adjusted before running. The better the cooling system the faster it can run because it can eject set parts quicker after each press.

Anyways, I'm getting off the thread topic. Apologies, people.

Dang, what happened? I have been gone since yesterday and this thread went in the crapper quickly...

I think we can agree on this topic. Profit is suppose to be legitimate. If it's not, well, people go to jail. This is why we have guidelines such as Sarbanes Oxley et al.

I agree that there are worse things out there. Everyone talking about defective items, that's not the point. Obviously if an item is defective then it should be taken back asap. And kudos to you for doing the right thing.

Again, I agree with you here. Now if Heero's items were stolen, yeah, that is a different subject. If not and legitimately obtained, then no worries. Of course, I hear a lot of QA problems with his stuff, so I wonder if they are bits and pieces piece-mealed together...

Things will happen durring the day than even a machine can't compensate for example durring the half hour lunch break you need to slowling drop the heat while still punching out another three to five molds so the plastic doesn't burn while your out on lunch. Then after lunch your first 5 to 10 shots are going to be shitty quality since the plastic you're using was left running through the heated coils in the machine at an uneven rate. Chances are instead of wasting those pieces, they will still use them for toys despite the poor quality. To me the hardest job about plastic injection would be the dye's, since they usually don't interchange the barrels of plastic, they just run through new plastics that can still pick up trashes of the last color used and make a mix. I don't work with hard plastics ( like toys) but instead soft ones making fishing lures ( same kind of plastics used for dildos)

last point I'll make on this since the Original Poster bought the toy, still had the receipt and when he brought it back explained ( assuming truthfully) what happened than theres nothing Fraudulent if the employee in costumer service allows him to exchange it for another.

Explain how he stole anything. And Company's have insurance for all broken items. You don't think that when you accidentally break a jar of pickles in the store, they'll say you have to buy that jar. No its cleanup in isle three and they keep the upc in a separate area where they tally it all up at the end of the day and recieve a big check from their insurance company for broken inventory. Same situation, I don't even think this comes out of Walmarts bottom line.

I've heard the horror stories about people returning KO toys in original boxes or people buying a toy for a part to convert then returning it. Thats dishonest and unlawful.

can you confirm this. Prices will be raised? no blame Big oil producing nations, petroleum based products will be raised regardless

I agree that returning KOs as real toys is awful, but I thought the OP said he didn't tell them how it broke, just that it was broken. If that is the case, it is still fraud *goes back to read the OP*

it doesn't go into detail at all, all he makes clear is that it was his brother who made the exchange while he went and got another SS. I'm assuming his brother told them the truth and it then turned over to the employee's responsibility to make the call on whether it could be exchanged or not.


regardless I'm almost 100% certain that nobody loses money, not walmart, not Hasbro, not the OP. like i stated early Thats why retailers have insurance and stuff like this is already projected into their theft and loss prevention plan.

Sorry but claiming that this kid could be partly responsible for price hikes is crazy. The Retail price is calculated on manufacturing, packaging and distribution and would never go up a penny if 200 kids did this. Its really the price of oil we should be blaming for price hikes since its all petroleum based products