KO/counterfeit G1 Optimus Prime Boxes

mattbot · 07-30-2007, 06:48 AM

Alright here's a curly question for all of you TF experts out there. There is a guide to buying G1 Optimus Prime toys on eBay that claims that G1 original OP boxes should always have BLACK lettering on the back at the bottom where it says;

(c) 1984 Hasbro Bradley Inc etc

or

(c) 1984 Hasbro Industries Inc etc

Here is the link to the guide;

http://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-spot-...00000002127051

I am wondering what truth there is to this and whether anyone can shed any light on this. I would say that 99% of the OP's I have seen on eBay claiming to be originals have WHITE printing.

If this is true, that the printing is supposed to be BLACK, then it would suggest that 99% of the OP's on eBay are KO/counterfeit.

Please Help!

Cher

Matt.

aussiehippy · 07-30-2007, 07:23 AM

Based on the numerous threads about KO primes in the TF on Ebay forum, I'd take a guess that a huge percentage of MISB Primes on Ebay at the moment probably are KOs.

I certainly wouldn't be buying a MISB Prime from ebay right now.

e3nine · 07-30-2007, 08:29 AM

"A knock off will have the top trim missing. The cardboard trim should connect all around the front of the box around the clear plastic guard."

Absolutely not. This is a sign of a KO. A real G1 WILL NOT have a grey border around the window.

e3nine · 07-30-2007, 09:06 AM

That review is completely off. I'm almost sure this is a counter fitter trying to pass his goods as real. Anyways ...

fake - not all stickers are applied (missing silver cab stripe)
fake - the grey border extends around the entire window
fake - factory crease running along the top flap
fake - "Made In France". The only Prime carrying that tag has red feet.
real - the grey border does not run around the entire window.

also note the positioning on the "FORMERS" on both flaps.

(edit: new pictures towards the bottom)

Parsox · 07-30-2007, 09:19 AM

nice guide

thanks for posting it

e3nine · 07-30-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parsox

nice guide

thanks for posting it

talkin to me or him?

the original one posted will make you purchase a fake thinking it's real.

I'm sick of all of this. I'm making a guide now, including pretty pictures, and will publish it to eBay.

mattbot · 07-30-2007, 09:30 AM

That sounds like a great idea! I have been trying to write one for the past six weeks since I decided I'd like to start collecting TF's. Before I started buying I thought I'd try researching it a bit. The problem is there are so many versions of the truth that I keep having to rethink what I am doing.

e3nine · 07-30-2007, 10:05 AM

before I go posting on eBay ... I'd like the blessing of TFW.

Let me know if I blew something. Thaaaaaaanks.

this is the one I can't 100% confirm.

Master Megatron · 07-30-2007, 10:39 AM

Also, the ko's grid becomes black halfway up, while the official's becomes black a third of the way up.

Mike · 07-30-2007, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e3nine

before I go posting on eBay ... I'd like the blessing of TFW.

Let me know if I blew something. Thaaaaaaanks.

this is the one I can't 100% confirm.

I just want to say this is probably the BEST post I have ever read on this site