How to tell the new KO Reissues apart from authentic toys.

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by JunkersHVN, Mar 15, 2007.

  1. jdle37

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    has anyone had hold of a ko mp01 ? im dying to know what they are like , ive seen the photo,s but its not the same as actually playing with the thing
     
  2. sh002

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    if anyone is looking for the ko g1 oversized soundwave i have one mosc
     
  3. PeteAutobot

    PeteAutobot autobot in training

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    Ok i have a sludge i got my hands on ....my friend says he is a ko version....
    He looks original to me tho....he has his takara stamp and the date 1980-1984
    and also made in japan...he looks nothing like the ko versions..im confused..i went online to check those ko versions and i couldnt find mine can someone help me plz...the only thing that is differnt is his chest its black....
     
  4. Fishdirt

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    Pictures. All sides, top bottom, both modes unless there is a definitive give away (which there always is).
     
  5. Tripredacus

    Tripredacus K-Mart-ian Legend

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    That might be a bit excessive. Definately could use a good pic of the stamping.

    What do you mean has a black chest? Do you mean the door or the overall body? The door itself is a translucent black, and the body is painted red.
     
  6. Last Autobot

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    No problem! If you´ve earned that much one could say you could buy the real thing, but I see that´s not the case.

    I don´t have any issues with collectors like you that buy KO (You should be more aptly named UltimateKOReviewer, by the way). But when you post videos and you don´t explicitly put that what you are describing and analyzing is a KO, then you are MISINFORMING, plain and simple. And when you look in the comments you see there are collectors that think that you are talking about the real g1s.

    That´s how I come upon your videos, when one new aspiring collector tried to compare his "authentic G1" with one of yours. He thought he had one, but at the end I showed him how his "G1" was a KO just like yours. Here is not an issue. Because we have a lot of knowleadgable collectors, but with new or ignorant collectors is a huge problem.

    You could have 1 million visits, that doesn´t give you credibility. As a matter of fact you are making the thing worse by confusing people with your videos and your half true disclaimers. You could perfectly do the same videos but telling that the tfs you depict are ko. In one of your comments I saw you said something of a seller that damaged the market by having high prices. I agree, but you do just the same when you give characteristics and defining toy traits of KO w/o telling they are KO.

    Clear enough?

    And for a "rule following guy" you buy a lot of unlicensed-against-the law-stuff!
     
  7. Needler56

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    g1 op cab takara stamp and pre rub vs rub sign?

    i don't know if this helps, but the following post says that the takara mark's on the trailer and not the cab:

    Real or fake? G1 Optimus Prime edition - The Allspark Forums

    also, does anyone know how to tell the difference between a pre rub and rub sign g1 op cab? the only difference i can tell are that the panels that align the thighs in alt mode, are shorter on the pre rub.
     
  8. lazerface

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    As beat up as this box is, I don't think it is a KO, but is it normal for Snarl to have a red head on the top and sides?

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  9. Might Gaine

    Might Gaine The Devil Express

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  10. lazerface

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    Thanks!
     
  11. tcyeric

    tcyeric professional toy breaker :(

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    I came across a listing for a Defensor giftset and to be honest i cannot distinguish if this is an original or a KO as much as the listing did mention words like "reissue" though checking through HighendTFs site i can't tell much from the pic as linked below =\ a good % of me says its a KO but i don't have any telltale sign to verify that

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  12. Tripredacus

    Tripredacus K-Mart-ian Legend

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    That's the Canadian version. I had to save that picture, I've never seen one before.

    But it is interesting to see the glut of Greek Defensors on Ebay right now.
     
  13. tcyeric

    tcyeric professional toy breaker :(

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    so i guess KOs were more towards the Hasbro releases?

    am just concerned due to how the seller did his listing:
    - using the term "reissue"
    - cheap price, approx US$100 for a boxed set
    - history of KOs

    just screams NO but its so tempting!
     
  14. Tripredacus

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    He may just be mistaken. Yes, typically its the Hasbro US versions that get KOed because historically collectors care more about english language packaging. For the most part, international releases (while rare outside their release countries) aren't sought out much except the die hard collectors. As such, international versions of US releases are usually on par value-wise with the US version. There are exceptions.

    I tried to find the auction that picture was taken from but I couldn't find it.
     
  15. Jazz Meister

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    Is there a way to tell the KO Hotspot from the Original. I just bought a Metal Chest Hotpot.
     
  16. Jazz Meister

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    Can any help me tell if the one on the right is a KO? It came in a legit box. But I noticed some differences on this compared to my other bombshell. The back of the leg were the rubsign should be at is not a complete square. Also the back of the chrome on the legs has an extra bar instead of being flat. The copy right stamp has lines above and below it. Also the head has some extra plastic not smooth or flat like my other bombshell.


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  17. johnchow604

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    HIGHENDTFS.COM - G1 Counterfeit ID Guides | "Separating the Crème from the Crap" has nothing on identifying Bombshell but it does mention a fiew things about the KO box:

    * The coloring of the box is a little off. The purple is too saturated and the fade to the glowing yellow is too abrupt.

    * On the counterfeit, the toys are too far too the right in their boxes compared to the originals.

    Here's a pic of the actual G1 box

    http://thepoptopshop.com/osc/images/Bombshell.JPG

    Here's a pic of the KO.

    http://chimungmung.com/images/ko_insect_h.jpg

    Notice how the yellow circle behind the illustration of Bombshell has grid lines visible in the actual, but the KO's grid lines are more faint.
     
  18. Jazz Meister

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    Thanks Im certain the box is original now just trying to identify the figure.
     
  19. Tripredacus

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    There are 2 different Bombshell versions. One has the rubsign "indents" and the other doesn't. I can't tell from your picture but there is a difference with the wheels on the legs too:
    FredsWorkshop.com
    As well as with the stinger (of course).

    Makes me want to check my Bombshells to see.
     
  20. krayziejones

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    how do I tell the difference between a real g1 sideswipe and a ko or reissue?