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02-01-2007, 02:11 PM
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#1 | | Drift-man Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 720 Location: Leeuwarden, Netherlands Collection Count: 1381 | Liokaiser Q's So today I got my Liokaiser, which is rather an awesome figure, and I got to wondering a few things.
First, why does everyone spell his name as Liokaiser, while it says Liocaesar on the box? Is it because people misread it as Lioceasar, and thus is something pronounced differently from the Liokaiser clearly heared in the show (while Liocaesar is in fact pronounced the same)?
Another more practical issue, should I apply the stickers? Normally I always do so, I makes the figures look better and I in fact enjoy applying stickers (don't ask me why). However, this set was expensive to the point where I feel maybe I should keep the labelsheet intact. Anyone's thoughts? A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?  Transformers collection list (text version) | Collection pictures (always outdated) | Want list & trade/sell list | Feedback | Cut & Paste Sci-Fi |
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02-01-2007, 02:35 PM
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#2 | | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 16,438 Location: Philadelphia Collection Count: Over 1100 News Credits: 2 | Personally, I prefer it spelled that way.
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02-01-2007, 02:43 PM
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#3 | | The British Butcher Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 21,403 Location: UK! Collection Count: An awful lot. And a few SWTFs. | Well, as a Roman Historian, Caesar (modern pronunciation See-zarr) is pronounced differently then the Germanic Kaiser (Ky-zer). The Japanese pronounces it "Ly-oh-ky-zer", hence it's easy to use the Germanic version.
(Taht said, Liocaesar is also technically correct. Latin didn't have a soft C, so the Romans would have pronounced it "Ky-sarr", which is the root of the Germanic pronunciation) Quote: |
Originally Posted by Lance Halberd Sol Fury can be likened to a German clock. A very exact, complex, and tightly-wound precision instrument that occasionally goes cuckoo. | |
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02-01-2007, 02:48 PM
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#4 | | Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 21,531 News Credits: 4 | You could always loan the stickers to Reprolabels; that way you'd get a set to apply without using the originals, and other people in the same position could too. |
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02-01-2007, 02:53 PM
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#5 | | Drift-man Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 720 Location: Leeuwarden, Netherlands Collection Count: 1381 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Sol Fury (Taht said, Liocaesar is also technically correct. Latin didn't have a soft C, so the Romans would have pronounced it "Ky-sarr", which is the root of the Germanic pronunciation) | Which is why I said it's pronounced the same, and made the distinction between "ae" and "ea". I've had Latin in high school for 6 years.
As for the reprolabels option, I had in fact considered that myself. However, now that I have this set I don't think I want to do more shipping with the labelsheet. Still something to consider.
Edit: Nevermind the "ae" and "ea" distinction. I just realised it's silly since there is no "ceasar". A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?  Transformers collection list (text version) | Collection pictures (always outdated) | Want list & trade/sell list | Feedback | Cut & Paste Sci-Fi |
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02-01-2007, 03:51 PM
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#6 | | . Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,903 Location: Is everything. Collection Count: Too many/Not enough. News Credits: 2 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Hi Q
Another more practical issue, should I apply the stickers? |
I don't think it would really hurt the value much - Liokaiser is in high demand.
However, lending the sticker sheet to someone who would mass produce it
may stand to lower the value of every Liokaiser that has stickers in good condition, be they used or not. |
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02-01-2007, 04:06 PM
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#7 | | The British Butcher Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 21,403 Location: UK! Collection Count: An awful lot. And a few SWTFs. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Hi Q Which is why I said it's pronounced the same, and made the distinction between "ae" and "ea". I've had Latin in high school for 6 years. | Ah fair enough, you're probably more qualified than me! I just learnt enough to work out what things like the legends on coins and inscriptions mean. I was never that good at it when it came to literature. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Lance Halberd Sol Fury can be likened to a German clock. A very exact, complex, and tightly-wound precision instrument that occasionally goes cuckoo. | |
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02-01-2007, 04:09 PM
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#8 | | G2 colors ROCKED! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,577 Location: SF Bay Area Collection Count: 1 collection :p News Credits: 2 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by godsenddeath I don't think it would really hurt the value much - Liokaiser is in high demand.
However, lending the sticker sheet to someone who would mass produce it
may stand to lower the value of every Liokaiser that has stickers in good condition, be they used or not. | Meh, I really like my Liokaiser but I could care less about it's value...it's not like it's leaving my collection  Though the thought of an Autobot version of the stickers would get me to go out and pick up the 2 pieces that didn't see "Rescue Force" releases to make an Autobot version  |
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02-01-2007, 05:53 PM
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#9 | | @deathformer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,037 Location: Monmouth County, NJ Collection Count: 800-ish | I prefer the Liokaiser spelling since it's the most different from autobot versions of the terms. Leo Convoy, Road Ceaser, then Liokaiser. Less confusion potential.
If you don't want to mail the stickers, maybe you could scan them instead? I don't know what Reprolabels would need, but it's great if they produce the set.
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02-01-2007, 06:25 PM
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#10 | | Photographer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,363 Location: Bathurst, NB Collection Count: Does it matter? | Quote: |
Originally Posted by godsenddeath I don't think it would really hurt the value much - Liokaiser is in high demand.
However, lending the sticker sheet to someone who would mass produce it
may stand to lower the value of every Liokaiser that has stickers in good condition, be they used or not. | i've never actually seen prof of this happening.. re-issues yes, but not due to stickers.
and people who are in thsi stricktly for teh potential market value of toys, is in it for the wrong reasons. |
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