Plot Hole to bring cliffjumper back

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by lordtigerhawk, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. TheDemonDzko

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    WAIT! I retract my statement about banging my head against the wall because this thread is full of fail!

    We couuuuuuuuullld Bring cliffjumper back! As a bumblebee repaint! -coolface-
     
  2. kaijuguy19

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    Naa keep Cliffjumper as his own mold. He's better off not being a repaint.
     
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    Fire Force Bumblebee with red deco
     
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    Drak Energon, you say?

    A new type of Energon for Megatron to exploit, I say!
     
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    The only way they'll bring cliffjumper back is in flashbacks...like in that airachnid, arcee, jack episode from season 1...can't remember the name
     
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    "Predatory"
     
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    Guys, there's another way.

    Before Cliffjumper's body was destroyed, Megatron kept part of his spark contained for a special occasion, along with certain other organs & parts. It doesn't really matter how or why, but he did it off screen. Then in an attempt to explain Knockout's absence as of late & strengthen his hold over Dreadwing (as he senses that raising the soldier's fallen brother from the dead will surely earn his servitude, while keeping Skyquake's life in his hands for a fallback measure), Megatron instructs Knockout & Soundwave locate Skyquake in the Shadowzone (Soundwave's powers let him do this) & rebuild him (this is mostly Knockout's craft).

    However, in a cliched turnabout!, the section of Cliffjumper's spark wasn't actually purged as they'd thought, and once in a while, the new Skyquake acts out of character, and as a result, ultimately sacrificing himself to save the earth or something while saying one of Cliff's "have the horns" lines or whatever.

    In doing this, we stretch the Depth Charge/Rampage/Dinobot homage, as well as give Hasbro a reason to bring back 2 fallen characters & sell more toys in the process.
     
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    Sounds good. It might technically be uneeded but with proper execution, it could still work seamlessly.
     
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    Let me see, killed, turned into a mindless zombie, cut it half by Megatron, and then blew up in a explosion.

    So tell me, how do you bring him back then? Its kind of hard to remove dark energon from a body that might of been reduce to nothing from the explosion.
     
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    That is the most contrived thing I've heard in a while.
     
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    Yep, and it'd make even less sense as part of a fanfiction. :) 
     
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    In regards to OP... there's a difference between a plot hole and a loop hole. A plot hole is a mistake in the show that the writers overlooked, such as Fowler riding in his jet without a flight suit (pre-grill, they patched that plot hole). A loop hole is a way of finding yourself out of a mess while staying within the laws of the universe by finding an action that is somehow ignored by the in universe laws.

    If what you said is correct (which it is definitely not) then it would be a loop hole, not a plot hole.
     
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    Something just came to thought as I was ready this. Since clones are in affect carrying over memories, could they use a clone to bring back cliffjumper?

    I know they said once dead stays dead. but lets say that was't the case or they decided to change their minds.
    Could a clone of cliffjumper some how be possible to bring him back?
     
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    What about skyquake?
     
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    Most of Skyquake is running around aimlessly in another dimension. I'm not sure if the Decepticons even know about it. The only part left was his hand which, I think, Starscream shot with a missile. Not sure how much was usable or if they would even be able to find it.
     
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    He can come back if they allow time travel in the series.
     
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    Well will be a good idea,but with modified charge into Wild Rilder!
     
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    Dear Primus: Please, send Cliffjumper back. You can have Bumblebee, in exchange.
     
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    Fixed.