The lack of realism. Or "Prime vs. This much better thing"

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by SPLIT LIP, Apr 22, 2012.

  1. Mechafire

    Mechafire Shadow Broker Moderator News Staff

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    Yes. Yes, you do.
     
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    Prime's a remake of G1. By your logic we don't need Prime. Also I don't think anyone can legitimately disagree with Spit Lip.
     
  3. General Magnus

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    MTME the cartoon episode or the comics?
     
  4. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    Too lazy. Can you do it for me, plz?

    No, but it confuses the fuck out of me.

    None of the characters seem even the tiniest bit boring to you? Not even I Am Optimus Prime?

    Derp. I meant IDW's ongoing.

    It's clear in my head but you know...
     
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    It basically is. And a mediocre one, at that.

    The current comic series.
     
  6. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    I'm not asking anyone to agree or disagree with me. I just want people to understand that what I say does not come from nowhere. I did not make this up to fuck with everyone. I'm legitimately incapable of enjoying this show because of how many glaring, unforgivable faults it has.

    And this is just on the characters. I didn't even talk about the plot and themes.
     
  7. General Magnus

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    I see. Well, better fire up the torrent machine then.
     
  8. MaxxieOD

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    I do agree with Split here (I like the show, don't get me wrong), but sadly I thunk RB has Prime beat when it comes to characters. There's not much social interaction between the characters in Prime which makes them seem...less convincing I guess. I can relate much easier to characters in RB than in Prime. Sadly the bots in Prime don't seem to have any life outside of the fighting except the occasional movie they watch. You never really hear much about what they did before. It makes them seem less lively. But I really do like the show, Ratchet is still the best, heh.
     
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    I know that but does that give MTME the excuse to be different astheticly?

    From what SPLIT LIP's saying it seems the she's not into it one little bit.

    Well I guess that makes me the first then

    That doesn't mean that Prime should be cancled at all.

    Prime,Bumblebee and Raf are underdeveloped but the rest aren't.
     
  10. Stygimoloch

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    I am going to say that I agree with your point that Prime doesn't give us much downtime to know the characters, and the dialogue can be really uber-cliched.

    I am going to disagree with your point that Prime has no heart. The writers are obviously treating the show with respect (perhaps too much in the eyes of some), and they have given all the character's genuinely interesting character moments, along with intriguing twists on old concepts. How much heart a show has can be open to interpretation.

    Regardless, I still enjoy the show, and I am fine with how it is. I get a kick out of it every Saturday night, and while yes, there are still objective problems the show, I still subjectively love it.

    Also, after reading all the praise for it, I REALLY WANT TO FUCKING READ MTME!
     
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    Oh my gosh Split actually likes a G1 series book. The world must be ending. But yeah MTMTE is vastly superior to Prime. The RID series is as well. Barber has done an excellent job on the RID ongoing.
     
  12. optimegatron

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    You make a great point. The realism in this show is very weak.
    Fowler: Hey Prime! My agents have reported a biomechanical hazardous Decepticon signal!
    Optimus: We shall investigate this occasion, and return to you with our results.
    It's just too coordinated in my opinion...
     
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    What?

    You fumble in ignorance.

    Way to undermine your own logic there, kiddo.

    Yes they are.
     
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    Again? You´re becoming a bloody nuisance with your persecution complex.
     
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    Kajiu dude calm down my friend. Don't take his opinion too seriously.
     
  16. SPLIT LIP

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    Loose Cannons.

    Who said Prime should be cancelled?

    I want it to improve, not go away. I'd much rather have two great TF media to look forward to instead of one.

    Miko, Bulkhead, Breakdown (now indeffinately) and MECH are all underdeveloped. Just because they've had some developement doesn't mean that's enough. We're a season and a half in. We should be way farther in than this.

    Why do people take the time to remember shit I say, but not properly?

    I don't like the G1 cartoon. Just the cartoon. Comics are A-okay. Toys I got a bunch. Cartoon is a no-go.

    Hells yes! Seriously, do it. If more people read the good comics it would tell IDW and Hasbro that the comics, when done right, are a profitable media that can be exploited elsewhere such as with toys and other stuff.
     
  17. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Woah looks like we got a Mexican Standoff here....

    I'm all for more charecter interaction, i'm for anything that will help me enjoy this show more and too get everyone to stop complaining about little things.
     
  18. kaijuguy19

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    I'm trying not too but it bugs me that many people seem to think Prime's flaws are that bad! I mean sure it has flaws but which TF show doens't?

    I know that this is about opinons and all but it's like they think Prime's the next Energon. I don't think it's that flawd but does that make me an idot for thinking that then?

    It's like thay pick one little thing about it and shred it to pieces. I hope I don't sound like whining and all but I'm just amazed at THIS amount criticsms.

    I've heard Animated had the same levels of complaints is that true?
     
  19. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    No but you keep getting yourself caught in a corner.
     
  20. Sideswipe80

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    Well some people are hard to please. As long as you enjoy it that's all that should matter :)  As for Animated yeah it had haters. I think all series have haters. Unicron trilogy got it the worst though lol