Is Filch a Predacon?

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Haywired, Sep 25, 2015.

  1. Haywired

    Haywired Hakunamatatacon

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    I got to wonder, because:

    - She's the only real beastformer in NuRiD. All other Cons have rather mundane alt modes and only animalistic traits in their robot forms. Only Filch has a full blown beast mode and turns into a humanoid robot.

    - She's huge. Judging from how big is her bird mode, she's on pair with TFP Predacons.

    - Her personality is that of a complete animal. Like - dumber than Sunbow Grimlock. Kinda fits with Predaking's siblings from Predacon Rising.

    Granted, there's her being classified as a Decepticon, but all prisoners on Alchemor were considered Cons, including Grimlock. Then Dinobots also have beast modes, but they're turned this way by Shockwave's experimentation.

    So far, I think that Filch is a Predacon. They're nowadays supposed to be sharing Cybertron with others, after all.
     
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    Zizza is a bee, Scowl is a dinosaur and well, so is Grimlock.

    Also, the prisoners on the Alchemor were imprisoned before the war ended. At which point all the predacons were still extinct.

    Cool theory, but I think she's just a beatformer
     
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    Birds aren't dragons.

    Plus the Predacons were extinct till Beast Hunters and it's heavily implied that Filch and the other cons were from the great war.
     
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    Pretty sure they called her a Decepticon. She also has a con symbol, so...
     
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    This one detail was pretty inconsequential. They somehow had Grimlock labeled as a Decepticon, despite him never actually being a one - it's the same Grimlock from FoC games...

    But yeah, I've forgot that all Predacons had dragons or gryphons for their alt modes. Birds don't qualify.
     
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    If rid is the continuination of prime, and the rage comic is canon in the prime universe. Then when exactly and by whom did grimlock get imprisoned.
     
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    Filch is confirmed to be a Corvicon on "Bumblebee vs. Scuzzard", if I'm not mistaken. She's just a beastformer, apparently. Cool theory though. :D 
     
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    Birds are dragons' descendants, if I use the appropriate word. But, probably, not the dragons themselves.
    That reminds me of Balaeniceps Rex.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's safe to say RiD has scrapped the Aligned Continuity nonsense. In RiD, Grimlock was a Decepticon during the Great War. There is nothing in the show to suggest otherwise.

    Birds are not dragon's descendants, they're dinosaur's. Dragons don't have have descendants, on account of not being real.
     
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    Except Grimlock seems to have a memory problem of who he was.

    My guess every prisoner is labeled a Decepticon. Especially as those badges tracks them.
     
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    Starscream Gaga, it is doubtful. Since TF's dragons insist in the TF Universe.
    I still do not know, where TFs originally took their first vehicle modes. But if the evolution was like ours, then dragons might be more ancient than birds...
    Some of our species are called "dragons", mostly, less official.
     
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    In the TF:p  continuity, the Predacons inspired mythical creatures. Not vice versa. Not only that, but aren't all the dragon-esque Predacons based off the classic European six-limbed drake, not a wyvern build? In that case birds resemble dinosaurs waaaay more than dragons.
    Also, in this continuity, weren't Cybertronians created by Primus? They might not have evolved at all.

    I also might just be misunderstanding what you're trying to say here.
     
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    Nope. It did not.

    There's a line in dialogue where Bumblebee mentions saving Cybertron in Predacon Rising.
    It's an official part of Aligned and sequel to TFP. Whatever applies to Aligned applies to nuRiD as well.

    More like the "Decepticon" name was used to label anyone who's at odds with the law, which is actually suggested by Megatron when he talks with amnesiac Orion Pax - his line is strongly suggesting that they adopted this name for their faction in defiance.
     
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    That's not what I mean't at all. RiD is definitely a sequel to Prime, which Word of God says is a sequel to WFC/FOC, despite the plot holes that goes along with that however RiD clearly ignores those connections.

    Grimlock was a Decepticon and has a totally different persoality, Dinobots are a race of Cybertronians, The Fallen is evil... It's pretty clear they're not fussed about the "Aligned" thing. Honestly, the notion that Autobots are given Decepticon badges if they're arrested is ridiculous. If that gets officially revealed in Season 2, then I'll eat my words, but until then, there is NOTHING in the series to suggest he's anything more than an ex-Decepticon.

    Besides which, you're explanation for his Decepticon badge doesn't make sense in the context of the Aligned continuity anyway, in which Megatron made up the word himself, although the logic behind the name was, tbh, terrible.
     
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    There's nothing in this show or entire continuity to tell that it's a different Grimlock.
    As a part of Aligned continuity, this is the same Grimlock.

    No official material states otherwise.

    Unless there's a Decepticon with the same alt mode and name, so there are two Grimlocks.

    At best you can blame Hasbro for this continuity being its usual unsorted mess.
     
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    If I had to guess anything it would be that Steeljaw, Filch, and the other fugitives are examples of Cybertron wildlife. Some could've stuck to their primal roots while a numbered few adapted to modern Cybertron society. :/
     
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    The real question: Is she single?
     
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    Even if she is not, I doubt Filch can remember that.
     
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    No... one simple reason... All the Predacons are Dragons, Filch is a bird.
     
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    If it helps, I asked Adam Beechen who is a producer and writer on the show, and he said Grimlock is different from the previous Grimlock.
    https://twitter.com/sonnova/status/606586570980749312