Why is Bumblebee not a Prime?

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by binny45, Apr 11, 2015.

  1. binny45

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    I am lead to believe that Optimus stepped down so that Bumblebee could lead. So why isn't he a Prime?

    I was thinking for his name to call him Beta Prime.

    Have to apologize as this is my first time here, so I haven't had the opportunity to sift through ALL the threads.

    This was just one thing that's been eating me. :p 
     
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    Because the matrix didn't choose him like a rare pokemon
     
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    Slingshot Back In the Game

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    Because the matrix and the Allspark was apart of Optimus' spark after he absorbed it in Predacons rising. He committed suicide to allow new life to Cybertron.
     
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    I remember when Bee was just a lovable underdog like Bilbo Baggins, and now he's a bigshot.

    But not big enough to be a Prime, in my opinion.
     
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    This 100 percent also that movie was supposed to reprasent the end of the primes era in fact the war is over just some thugs kicking up dust is all we have at the moment
     
  6. binny45

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    But it's these guys that tend to shine the most. Don't get me wrong, I LOVED Hot Rod in the REAL Transformers movie, but wouldn't it have been that much more awesome if Bumblebee had opened the Matrix in the end? Talk about your Underdog moment. A proper reward for a loyal and courageous Autobot. His path and the path of Orion Pax were very similar as they were both neither large nor powerful in their forms. It was only until after receiving the matrix that Orion Pax grew in strength as Optimus Prime.
     
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    That happened during the original series when Optimus used the matrix to beat that infection that had everyone going crazy. However he was able to restore it. I don't see why they couldn't do the same. The matrix had to come from somewhere right? If Optimus was one with Vector Sigma, he could have very easily created a new matrix for the current leader.
     
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    He is like Ultra Magnus from prime, when OP was dying and they did not know, he took command, but if OP had not returned, he would not he become a Prime
     
  9. binny45

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    I just wish they'd keep a series going for more than a year or two, and then rebooting it with different anime styles and messing with the canon.
     
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    Aren't Primes "chosen by Primus" in Prime's universe anyway?

    Hot Rod wasn't in the Bay movies though.

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    As Optimus said before his sacrifice, the time of Primes is over. Now the new era of Cybertron can forge its own path, undecided by gods and Matrixes.
     
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    Because he is not a prime. The Thirteen are the Primes, they were the first created/spawned from Primus. Everybody else isn't, i think long after the Primes had gone they made or voted in Sentinal Zeta prime aka Sentinal Prime but hes the only one i think(not a real prime it could be said)... Optimus is.....
     
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    Because Bumblemus Prime is a terrible name
     
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    Why would he be a Prime? Just because he called some good shots in the battlefield doesn't mean he's ready to rule a planet.
     
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    Well when Optimus Prime died he said that would be the end of the age of Primes so why would you ever expect another Prime to take his place?

    Although according to the Covenant of Primus Sentinel was the only one elected into the position. Optimus was one of the original Thirteen so even though Orion Pax was also elected, he technically already was a Prime. There's also Nemesis Prime who was built by Humans, controlled by Silas, and didn't have a Spark... it was named by Miko due to it's likeness to Optimus... And Jack was sort of made a Prime when Optimus gave him the Key to Vector Sigma but he's human. At any rate this all kind of limits any possibility of any more Primes ever popping up in the Aligned Continuity...

    That being said, considering how often the Aligned Continuity is totally ignored to the point where it might as well not even be a thing I guess another Prime could pop up at some point even though it really shouldn't because Optimus said no more Primes.
     
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    I was thinking more along the lines of Beta Prime (see earlier post).

    I just wish there'd be some continuity between the shows.

    It'd be even better if they started expanding the universe. Beast Wars showed us that it could be successful.

    I'd love to see a series that gets into ancient Cybertron, follows through history, and then follows different groups of Autobots who fled Cybertron to different parts of the universe.

    There is so much potential story here and after 30 years they'd just barely scratched the surface.
     
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    Why?

    Optimus said the "line of Primes were finished"...

    Bumblebee has his own team, not the entire Autobot faction...?

    Prime and RID 2015 have a pretty solid connection.
     
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    In TF Prime, Bumblebee was a scout, who at the end of the series, showed leadership potential. Now he is a leader, just not of the whole faction. I don't see how anything more could be done to connect TF Prime Bumblebee with RID Bumblebee.

    That said, I do agree there could be more done to connect the two shows as a whole, just not when it comes to Bumblebee. It's possible we'll see the universe being expended more, with
    Optimus being trained by the original Primes.
     
  19. Maximo Prime

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    Sacrificing one's self =/= committing suicide.
     
  20. janeDoe001

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    All of these answers.

    Also, Goldbug Prime is even worse for his new name. ;) 


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