Yeah the ending did spit on the whole once you die you don't come back thing they wanted to do in the begining.

well ok to be fair only Dreadwing and Makeshift died and never had they're bodies come back to life in anyway but still.  

 

Yeah. Technically it could be said that Megatron's mind never died, only his body was destroyed, but I think the general audience assumed he was dead. I really wish they had waited a while before reviving him (if at all), because I think his death was one of the most well done scenes in TF history. Bringing him back one episode later takes a little away from that.

 

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Prime's version of Unicron. He didn't have the same...impact that a god like that should have. His actions in Predacons Rising was better, but still wasn't as good as it could have been.

I did like John Noble as him though. Guy made a good Brainiac too, in Superman Unbound

 

EDIT: IGNORE THIS POST!
Beg pardon for my interruption but I actually want to bring up something that may or may not be an interesting concept. I've sort of been casually rewriting Aligned's sense of Universe and I thought of an idea regarding Unicron.

Basically, when the Thirteen defeated the Lord of Chaos they separated his body and spark. His body would drift into space and become the Earth while Unicron's spark would be preserved (because it cannot be destroyed) on a planet that was intended never to be found again. To do this, Solus Prime constructed the first Space Bridge and inputted a random set of coordinates. The Primes constructed an underground prison with the purpose of keeping anyone of entering and freeing the spark of their enemy, however Megatronus preserved the coordinates and those would be later be discovered and lead to the colonization of Planet X.

Centuries past and eventually Unicron's imprisoned spark would be liberated by Planet X scientists. These scientists would serve as vessels to increase Unicron's influence across the planet via replication of Dark Energon. This would work as the Chaos Lord takes control of the entire planet's population and order them to reshape their home planet into a new body for him.
Since being imprisoned, Unicron festered on his defeat and drew plans for a group of warriors designed to counter the Primes - his Heralds.

With his new body completed, Unicron consumes the lives of those he has indoctrinated and begins to journey back to Cybertron to destroy Primus. During his travels, his encounters a derelict Cybertronian vessel containing the bodies of Galvatron and his followers. The barely conscious Galvatron bargains with Unicron for vengeance and power which the demigod grants in turn for servitude, thus Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps become the first heralds of Unicron.

At a later point, Unicron senses the Dark Energon that resides in his former body along with the presence of his brother (the Matrix of Leadership) and sends one of his newly created Heralds, Thunderwing, to destroy the Matrix. Should Thunderwing fail he shall simply send another herald to finish the job.

That's about all I have done in regards to Unicron.

 

Way off *this* topic, but may beg starting another thread where it would be *the* topic.

Not sure I see the story advantages to your rewrite at this point, but again, it probably would take a whole thread of "How would YOU rewrite Unicron?" to really get enough to follow along.

That's intended as a suggestion, not a dismissal of your early plot ideas...

Which begs another question: while writing fanfic is not my thing at all, I have to wonder if a subforum where both fanfic and fanfic ideas could be posted and given constructive criticism would fly here. How many people are doing this? How many people would actually want constructive criticism?

 

There is a Fanfic forum in the Creative section.

If somebody wants to promote or receive constructive criticism on their plot/ideas, that would be the place to go. Not only because it'd be on topic there, but also because the members there would be better equipped to give fanfic advice.  

Like AntiTheon suggested, a thread in this forum asking how people would've rewritten parts of Prime would be a-ok!

 

Alright then. I really just had no idea where to put this kind of stuff which is why I end up scattering all over the place. I know it's fanfic stuff but I don't have an actual story, just basic plot items, which is where my confusion of the subject comes into play. So either it belongs in fanfic forum or creative discussion. Like I said, I had no idea where to put this stuff. :/

Didn't there exist a thread titled exactly that or something similar?

 

I could see them bringing back Unicron as a sort of final test for Bumblebee's new team. Having to combat a God of chaos and destruction would be a pretty good way to put em through the paces.

 

Whoa!

How the hell did I miss that?

That's a second thanks I owe you, EnergonWaffles.

I figured it warranted a thread of its own for two reasons.

1. It seemed that such a discussion would be heavily based on the novel(s?) and the games rather than TFP or RID.
2. It was clearly a (re-)creative discussion that revised everything rather than a prospective speculation.

When it comes to story fragments and early plot outlines, I'd encourage you to bounce it off others even in embryonic form. In the case of original material, you do have to worry about others stealing your ideas (and there are plenty of lawsuits to prove it's a real problem). In fanfic, however, since nobody is making any profits without getting sued by Hasbro, there's no real monetary risk from sharing.

I'm not sure if there are the kind of support forums or writing clubs for fanfic -- again not my thing -- but there are plenty for those working on original material. Some of them are exceptional.

 

^ K. Thanks man.  

 

Cyclonus I need a group of five cybertronians with attitude.

 

That could be neat.

 

I'd be tremendously underwhelmed if Bumblebee and his crew do anything but set the stage for the fall of a God of Chaos.

To use the Tolkien model, none of the mortals faced the Balrog, Gandalf did: to take the super-powered out of play and allow the little people (pardon the pun) carry the weight to a larger degree. Mere mortals faced the Lord of the Nazgul, but it was the classic "No Man" exception in prophecy. Frodo didn't face Sauron, he merely tossed his ring into a pit that reduced the Dark Lord to nothing but a passing shadow.

In the TF-verse, that means either Bumblebee needs to become superpowered (a Prime, for example, which would sicken me no end) or he needs to be instrumental in releasing another super being (Supreme?), destroying another artifact (maybe Unicron's physical body back in Earth's core), or some other sidestep of a direct confrontation that he would have no business surviving.

 

Oh god thank you. I totally agree with this.

But I dunno...do we REALLY need Unicron for RID2015? By it's tone it appears to be very light hearted with little to no stakes. It appears, for all intents and purposes to be mostly Monster-Of-The-Week as Decepticons come and go with a core set of 'Cons staying around as masterminds.

I'm okay with that. It looks pretty fun to watch without having to worry about being super serious and dark and failing at doing any of those things.

 

I'd honestly be surprised if it appears in this show as it stands.

However, I could see "Optimus Supreme" as setting the stage for the next "film" in the aligned continuity -- basically a second bookend with "Predacons Rising" being the first one. That would be rather plausible.

Aside from playing a disembodied Obi-Wan Kenobi I don't see much use for Optimus (and thus the expensive Peter Cullen) otherwise.

 

I'll be honestly surprised if the show really does tie into Prime outside of just one shot cameos from Team Prime. Personally, the farther RID distances itself from Prime the better off it is I think. It's different enough where it really should be it's own thing.

 

I doubt this forum is representative of the viewership at large from a demographic standpoint. So I wouldn't trust a temperature taken here even if it was up the tailpipe (the most reliable short of liver temp).

As such, I'd go with the assumption that the show runners need to do everything the can to preserve the TFP demographic and add to it. Then again, maybe they want the *spectacular* experience of Bermaga (the unholy fusion of Berman and Braga) and "Enterprise." They tried to distance themselves to the point of omitting "Star Trek" from the title until season three. They ran the show into the ground to the point that not even a stellar job by Manny Coto in season 4 (after Bermaga moved on) could save the show.

Granted, playing to fandom needs is a great way to alienate broader audiences, but you do not go out of your way to abandon your base with a deliberate walk-away. If you want to do that, wait a couple decades to restart the way they did with the new "Battlestar Galactica." That or do it in cinema: apparently the 15 year old crowd tolerates a reboot inside of a decade at the movie-plex.

 

I read somewhere on this board that apparently TF Prime wasn't well received with the target demographic because of it's super serious nature, which is why I think that RID 2015 is so totally different.

Basically I kept that in mind with that post. If that is the case it would make sense why the new show is taking the direction that it is. That is why I'll be very surprised if it really ties into Prime.

 

I'd read that as "it didn't sell enough toys to the right age group.

That's the reason they whacked Optimus Prime in the first animated film, so it may be that the curse of toy sales lives on!

Either way, they'll need to do SOMETHING serious now and then or they'll abandon the viewers they already have.