I know I am in the minority on this one. Why is it that everyone seems so excited about this but me. not trying to be mr negative here, talking transformers has always made me excited, happy, ect. hell even coworkers make note of the change of tone in my voice when I talk about transformers.

except this.

Just read the bios and was like wtf.

Sideswipe = deadpool (no more like stupid teenager to me)
Strongarm token lawgirl who eventually is gona loosen up
Grimlock being the token black guy who must prove just because he looks like a con he isnt..(this is the one that gets me the most)
Fix it being the token nerd we get in every show (not really upset just tired of the tech guy having to be a super nerd)
Optimus becoming a taco joke.
The only bio that didn't make me gag was bumble bee's and I don't like bumble bee!

I am seriously trying to understand why I am the only one who has negative feelings about this.

In all honesty I hope I am wrong, I hope this show is enjoyable, I hope to eat my words

I just can't jump on this after being a fan all my life this is the first transformers show I just can't get into. am I alone in this?




Okay I'm editing this post to put up a more thoughtful discussion on my feelings of this other than my previous nerd rage post, I am also leaving my original post up for people who are reading this entire thing to have some point of reference as to what some people are talking about.

so to the meat of this and what started the rant in the first place are the bios that were released for the characters of RID2015

OPTIMUS PRIME returns. He will principally serve as a guide to Bumblebee when he needs OP’s help the most. OPTIMUS PRIME’S real journey, and challenge, will involve meeting his predecessors: The 12 Primes. This story will play itself out during the course of the first season. In this series, Bumblebee must learn to fill OPTIMUS PRIME’S shoes as Team Leader. His new Recruits need to function as a well-oiled machine and OPTIMUS PRIME will need to fulfill his destiny and achieve the next step in his evolution into OPTIMUS SUPREME... All before our new baddies join forces and roll out!

The only thing that bothers me of about this is the title Optimus supreme as stated earlier
and proven on many of the forums here. it just makes him sound like something you would buy at Tacobell

Bumble bee
Our yellow and black Autobot maintains
a boundless optimism and taste for
adventure. Although Bumblebee may
be completely “no-nonsense” in the
field when he’s up against the baddest
of the bad, once he’s back on Earth
we’ll see his mettle tested by his
underlings (think Arnold in “Kindergarten
Cop”). And while the members of ’Bee’s Earth-based squad may be loose
cannons, they will eventually learn to
be “in this together” and apply their
talents to the cause of good.

Again this one doesn't bother me.. I see people referencing this to G1
Rodimus but from the trailer I got a sense of annoyance more than self esteem issues from the I am not optimus ie Stop comparing me to him

sideswipe

A street-smart, fast-thinking rebellious ’Bot, think of Sideswipe as the “Deadpool” of the group. Our somewhat of a lone wolf feels he needs to look for himself first and wishes Strongarm would cut him a break with all her rules and regulations – but when push comes to shove, he heeds the call to action. He will even be known to try and take advantage of some of the other more gullible ’Bots. Sideswipe is cool under pressure and he’s quick with his words and hands. He’s all about getting the drop on his opponent – and looks cool doing it. He will not only learn that it’s “cool to respect authority” (as Sideswipe gains increasing respect for Bumblebee and his teammates), but that he, in turn, has grown to be something of an “authority” figure to Russell, one of our humans on Earth. V-mode: Flashy, Luxury Sportscar.

I got Rebellious teen from the bio above, the whole I do my own thing you can't make me deal. What bothered me was the comparing him to deadpool. oh I'm red and make jokes... there's more to sideswipe and Deadpool than that, and just does a disservice to both characters
I also used rebellious teen for the He will not only learn that it’s “cool to respect authority” (as Sideswipe gains increasing respect for Bumblebee and his teammates),
Which just makes me roll my eyes. if they left these two parts out it wouldn't be that bad of a bio.

Strongarm

Strongarm is staunchly dedicated to her career in law enforcement and can’t imagine a world where everyone doesn’t follow the “letter” of the law (i.e., THE RULES). STRONGARM is completely earnest and possesses a world-view devoid of shades of grey. Exposing Strongarm to any criminal behavior instantly flips the switch that activates her righteous sense of justice, wherein she becomes a single minded, unstoppable zero-tolerance machine! Becoming a member of ’Bee’s supreme team is a dream come true and she’ll do everything in her power not to disappoint him. Her personal growth as a ’Bot will be explored throughout this series. Sometimes it’s hard to let go of protocol, but on Earth, she’ll have to learn to bend a little more because not everything is so easy and cut-and-dry. V-mode: Police SUV.

I refered to her as the token lawgirl cause I thought it would be witty.. I was wrong
Strong arms bio and characters I don't hate I'm just bored with
Its the same super strict by the book person that will eventually loosen up that we always have to have.

Fixit
The enthusiastic, hyperactive, roughly human-sized MINI-CON mans the tech and provides maintenance for the new Autobot base (read: he’s a nerd). Fix-It is equal parts mechanic/I.T./mascot, and archivist of the “Most Wanted” dossiers – he was the pilot of the Cybertronian Prison Ship, The Alchemor, that crash landed
on Earth, and is thus intimate with its former inhabitants, their crimes and attributes. He’s a constant tinkerer and will be responsible for building or retrofitting MONSTER HUNT & CAPTURE DEVICES. Transformation modes:
a veritable “Swiss Army Knife” of MECHANIC’S TOOLS.

This is another one I am just simply bored with. I don't mind him being a swish army knife and I really do like the name fixit for thier tech guy
but why do all Techguys have to be a Enthusiastic hyperactive nerd.

again don't hate just bored In all honestly if they flipped strongarm
and fixit characteristics around I would be much more interested

First off I want to apologize, referring to Grimlock as the token
black guy there was no way not to sound racist with that comment
and unfortunately that was all my half-awake nerdragefilled self could
come up with. So I do humbly apologize to anyone who was offended
I should have explained and will explain my feelings better.

Before that I also want to address the Voice actor hate. I have no idea where this stems from.
This post was made about the bios that were released and has nothing to do with the voiceactors. from what little I heard I don't really have a problem with the voices.I hardly pay attention to who voices what.
The only voice actor I did recognize was Bumblebee's only cause I'm a huge batman beyond fan.

okay heres Grimlocks bio

A proverbial “Neanderthal” with a huge heart, Grimlock is a Dinobot that fights hard and plays hard. In fact, he’s the strongest in our new Autobot group. Grimlock was unjustly imprisoned eons ago for his looks and not his deeds. In fact, Grimlock initially joins up with Team ’Bee simply because he didn’t want to miss out on the “fun” of a Monster beat down! On the downside, Grimlock can be a tad gullible, a little too “in the moment,” clumsy, AND then there’s the teeny-tiny detail that a “T-Rex” isn’t exactly the most discreet disguise for an alien ’Bot on Earth. Dinobot mode: T-Rex.

the two lines the got me the most were these

A proverbial “Neanderthal” with a huge heart,Grimlock was unjustly imprisoned eons ago for his looks and not his deeds

Grimlock to me Has always been One of My favorite transformers. And he has always been this badass that takes nothing from no one even prime.(say he season 3 g1 self even as a kid I called bs on that)
This was the bot that when was told he was just blowing hot air about
being a badass what would he really say if megs shown up at that moment
He responded by picking kup up by the neck slaming him against the wall and sayin "He Grimlock, He badass"
to go from this to I was Imprison because of my alt mode. just doesn't say grimlock to me.
If he was imprisoned it was cause he did something or got bored with the chase and wanted a "vacation" Grimlock for me never has been nor never will be the victim.

Which is probity where I got my poorly worded Token black guy
Description. too often in Different media I see where theres a character that has to prove themselves not based on actions but based because they are black,asian,Hispanic,white(yeah white too) ect
and for me It actually takes away from a character it suddenly turns
into the world is racist and now my team mates have to
prove there not racist.

Don't get me wrong racism is a real thing, I deal with it on a daily basis at work and it sickens me to no end that we as a whole cannot move beyond it.

The other thing that gets me angry about grimlocks bio is
On the downside, Grimlock can be a tad gullible, a little too “in the moment,” clumsy,
All this just screams is season 3 grimlock to me.

So I hope this clears things up abit. if I once again have offended someone I'm sorry.
We have an awesome community here at TWF2005 and I don't want to be one of the bad examples.
and hope to contribute more instead of being just a reader.

 

You aint the only one, bud.
So far nohing I have seen attracts me.
This is gonna be more kiddi-fied than PRIME was, and that don't help.

Not the end of the world.
Nor would it be the 1st TF drought for me either.

If you're worried about it, then watch a few. Otherwise, there's no logic in watching something you aint gonna like.

 

when sideswipe is sporting a justin Beiber haircut....sorry, I'm out.

not going to be a fan of 2d animation and a wannabe animated transformers playskool look for transformers....Pass.

 

It doesn't look appealing to me, either.

It's not 2D animation, and that's part of the problem. This style combines the flatness of poorly done 2D with the stiffness of poorly done 3D. It's an uncomfortable in-between that gives us the worst of both.

And the tone of the clips so far make it seem midway between Prime and RescueBots. If that's what they think is going to bring them the biggest audience, I support their choice. But that doesn't mean I'll watch it.

 

You're not the only one.

With a few exceptions, those who will be talking the most about it atm will be the ones interested in it. Those who aren't remotely interested will leave their thoughts then go discuss areas of the franchise they are interested in.


As bellpeppers said, it ain't the end of the world if the new RID isn't your cup o tea. In a few years a new show will come along which may be more to your taste.


Edit: I'm actually most excited for Grimlock's backstory. Because in Prime, there was clearly a prejudice against the Predacons, but it was only seen and never addressed. The Preds were royally screwed over by both Bots/Cons.
Grimlock's story could provide a way for them to address the grey areas of the Autobots if they decide to.

It'll be unfortunate if his chosen VA results in people becoming hyper sensitive to his story before we even know what they'll be doing with his story.

 

Allow me to add my voice to the group here in saying that you're not alone in your lack of interest in this show. I've been on the fence about RID for a while, trying to give it a fair shake, but each new reveal kept knocking me off that fence and onto the negative side. Now, with the release of these bios, I've decided not to get back up on the fence. There are just too many negatives for this show to pique my interest.

At a time when Hasbro is trying to gain lost ground with the mainstream Transformers toy franchise (looking at you AoE line), I find it surprising that they're dwindling down the potential audience for this new show by shifting it closer to the Rescue Bots demographic. Only time will tell whether or not they made the right call.

 

Maybe RescueBots pulled better numbers/sold more toys for Hasbro than Prime did. And now that the kids who came into the franchise with RecueBots are 2 years older, along comes a show aimed at an audience 2 years older than RescueBots. Might be a coincidence. Might not be.

 

Man, If rescuebots sold more TF's than the transformers rime show PLUS Generations together....

I'll be the first one to fall on my sword and call it a day.
Playskool transformers ....

ugh.

But to be fair to your theory....HTS was more often sold out of those damned rescuebots more than anything else.

 

I am super-excited for RID, since it looks like it's going to be fun to watch, and not constantly descending into boring doom-'n'-gloom like Prime always did.

I've enjoyed Rescue Bots way more than I did Prime, and I generally think Transformers fiction is at its best when it doesn't take itself too seriously - look at Beast Wars, Animated, the MTMTE comic...

And skewing towards a slightly younger demographic is absolutely the right call for Hasbro - older children are increasingly abandoning toys for video games and other digital entertainment. Note that in Hasbro's most recent investor presentations they just straight-up aren't marketing to the 10-18 age-group anymore.

 

Welp, time to pull the "RUINED FOREVER" switch.....

 

Im excited for rid, it look fun and unique, from what little Ive seen, I love all the new autobots  

 

I have doubts that I will watch more than a few episodes of that.
The plot seems to be "Oh, I am not the Optimus, than I am a sore looser, and I suffer from this fact and I need your loosers' support so much. We will combine our strengths, because when we are split, we are just several nonentities...You will learn some stuff, then I will start to feel like a leader...".
BumbleBee, you have a mentality and the problems of a ******ed 12-years-old.

As well as the style. The most repellent TF's humans' stylization I can recollect.

 

Kiss players

 

Highly doubt that's the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did sell better than Prime. RescueBots is actually written very well. The characterization the cast receives in RB goes above and beyond what we've seen from most of the Aligned universe so far.

I'd be more than happy to hear RB was selling well.  

 

Eh, I'm not too excited either. So far, there sounds little in terms of plot and I've hated nearly everything I've heard about the Decepticons. Plus, I'm not crazy about Bumblebee being the leader or Optimus becoming something akin to a demigod.

Grimlock's bio of being imprisoned for his appearance gives me a slight amount of hope the series will address the Autobot's prejudice against the Predacons. Although I am worried it might be that Predacons are all evil, just not Dinobots. Or worse, all the Decepticons are beasts (which is what's been seen) and the Predacons won't be featured at all.

 

Wait, what?

 

While I don't find myself that enthusiastic about the show or toyline, I don't necessarily dislike it. Just nothing has my attention and is keeping me interested. It might be due to me wanting a sequel that ties back to the Exiles and Revelations novels which involved colony worlds and the quitessons. Rid, for the most part, feels more of a sequel to Animated than Prime. However, I'm not oppose to Animated having a sequel.

Bee taking the role of a leader I'm not that offended about but how its being portrayed is more of a Rodimus feel to it. I know he has been in a position of leadership on the IDW comics and did strive towards being like Optimus. On the subject of leadership, I think Bee only took up the position mostly because the only other nomination was Starscream who he thought was unsuited for the job on ethical/moral grounds. I really would've loved to have seen a revamped style of G1 Rodimus Prime arc for the story, but I guess there are some things that can remain as dreams.

The other characters aren't bad but nothing has impressed me about them. As many people have compared, Sideswipe comes off as a discount Knock Out because of his vein personality and red appearance. Fixit, I can't help but feel his name and glitch was designed to be a joke. As in "Get it? His name's Fixit and he needs fixing!" I don't dislike him for being described as a nerd but given a character quirk that is an excuse for humorous dialogue I think is cheap. Whether or not that's a bad thing to you is your personal decision, not mine. Optimus just sounds as if he's going to be a dull as ever with his arc. The only positive of we might get to see how the 13 Primes behave amongst each other. It also goes without saying that I think select people would have preferred his being restricted to his ghost form. Strongarm and Grimlock are the only two pit of the cast that sound like they have possible character development because of their viewpoints. Strongarm sees the world in black and white while Grimlock is a general mystery.

Lastly, the toy line. Again, I would like to state that I don't view this toyline as the worst possible thing but simply a step in the wrong direction. I know people would raise the argument that since Transformers is a franchise primarily targeted to children and therefore the toys need to be simplified. To an extent, I get what they're saying. I wouldn't hand off a seven year old something like ROTF Mixmaster and expect them to know what they are doing. However, make things too simple and kids won't be kept engaged. Simplifying the toys is not a huge problem for me but there's a line that has to be drawn somewhere. Thankfully, we haven't reached that line yet. However, I can't entirely fault Hasbro for this decision.

What I enjoyed about Prime was even though it took itself slightly too seriously, there was a constant feel of danger to the characters whenever they went into battle. They were tossed around and getting punches and kicks left, right, and center. To be fair, no amount of action you put into a show will make up for the lackluster writing/storytelling, but it shows the characters in real peril. That isn't to say Animated did not present danger to their protagonists but Prime's dangers were slightly more chaotic. You had Terrorcon zombies and Airachnid's sadistic head hunting hobby for example.

Generally, I think RiD and Animated have more of a domesticated sense of setting and conflict for the most part while Prime was more inclined to be chaotic with its setups. Not entirely accurate, I'm sure, but its the quickest way I can compare the shows without subjecting to judging solely on quality.

 

Bumblebee was Autobot leader in IDW G1 because the other Autobots voted for him (but unfortunately the things that made him so likeable made him a rubbish leader). After the war ended, Cybertron's neutral population later chose Starscream as ruler of the planet over Bumblebee.

But 90% of Prime's fight scenes were against Vehicons, who posed absolutely no threat whatsoever to the Autobots. The bloomin' Scraplets posed a greater danger than the Decepticons ever did...

 

Within a few years, the toy line will be simplified for adults too.

 

I've already lost all interest since we found out that they're using that terrible "Optimus is the Thirteenth" plot development. Wake me up when Hasbro and the Prime writers take the Jesus outfit off Optimus and let him be likable again.