Episode 40 "Triage" Discussion

Except that as we kept trying to explain to you, they don't own everything. They do not own the assets. The people who created those assets do, and they are under no legal obligation to share them.

What awkward dialogue? What struggling? What's wrong with fan wank dialogue? How does dialogue that has nothing to do with plot knock the viewer out of their suspension of disbelief?

Nothing you said makes any sense.

Except that as I kept trying to explain to you, they DO own everything. They do own the assets, all of them. The people who created the video game only own the assets two the video game and they are under legal obligation to share them with Hasbro who gave them the rights to create the video in the first place.

You seem to not understand that without Hasbro giving High Moon the rights to create War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron that the games would not exist in the first place. The only rights High Moon has is creating content for Hasbro who is legally able to do whatever the hell they want with it and High Moon is able to make money off video game sales and probably the toy versions of their character designs.

I don't know why you insist on arguing with me that High Moon owns Transformers when you know they don't. All they own is limited rights to a few video games, that's it. Hasbro owns Transformers, everyone knows that, that's why their name is on everything including cartoons, live action films, video games, comics, and toys. Why you want to insist that they don't own any rights at all is beyond me.

I'd like to know how you think Hasbro gets their name on everything when you keep insisting they don't own the rights.

If I'm a franchise owner, the company heads don't swoop in and demand my business practices.

Because I actually know how trademarks, copyrights, ownership, and business actually works. Something you clearly have no understanding of. Here's a clue - when everyone tells you you're wrong, you're wrong.

Hasbro owns the Transformers. High Moon Studios owns the assets used to create a Transformers game. Those are two entirely separate things. Hasbro does not own those assets. High Moon does. High Moon gets to decide who uses them. Not Hasbro. Because High Moon owns them. Not Hasbro.

If you understand how trade marks, copy rights, ownership, and business works then you know that you're wrong and wasting my time arguing about it.

Hasbro owns the Transformers, that gives them the right to the Transformers games High Moon Studios created.

High Moon Studios was given limited rights to Transformers by Hasbro to create a Transformers game.

Hasbro still owns all the rights to the game.

High Moon owns limited rights to the game.

High Moon does NOT get to decide who uses them, Hasbro does, because Hasbro owns them. High Moon only has LIMITED rights that Hasbro gave them.

High Moon can not tell Hasbro they can't use their own characters in their TV show. High Moon does not have the rights. They don't own the property. Hasbro owns it so they can use it in any way they want.

The only way High Moon would have the rights to do that is if Hasbro out right sold them all of the rights to Transformers and High Moon holds the majority rights now. However if that happened then High Moon would also own Transformers Prime and they'd be able to use their video game footage in the series anyway. Of course that didn't happen, Hasbro can use video game footage in Prime if they want to because they own the rights to both War for Cybertron and Prime.

Your entire argument is a contradiction, an oxymoron, it doesn't make any freaking sense because you said it right in the first sentence. "Hasbro owns the Transformers." Every sentence after that you're arguing that they don't own the Transformers, that High Moon does. But High Moon doesn't own the Transformers, they own rights to their own video game which allows them to make and profit off said games but does not give them rights to withhold their content from the majority Copy Right holder, which is Hasbro.

Saber just because Hasbro owns the rights to the characters doesn't mean they specifically own the rights to do whatever they want with High Moon's assets.

Take a look at the Spider-man and X-men movies. Both of those properties are Marvel owned however they can't do a damn thing with them in terms of movies because of the contracts they signed with Sony and Fox. Hasbro could have made as similar deal with High Moon in terms of the games and the assets created for them.

I think the only ones whose time is being wasted is Kostya and mine. And I'm pretty sure that's grammatically incorrect, but I just don't care. :/

Actually, I'm a CGI modeler, and it'd take me all of five minutes to change the size of one of my models. I can't assume it'd take too much longer for the Prime team to do the same.

Did you not see my other post?

Sorry, I'll admit that first post did unintentionally imply some great difficulty but I thought I cleared that up in the quote here.

This episode was the best of season 2. Soundwave was awesome as usual, and I feel like Wheeljack keeps improving as a character each appearance. Knockout quivering over the grenade covering his "ears" was cute, and I didn't even mind Wheeljack getting the upper hand on Soundwave because 1. It showed Soundwave isn't some perfect god, 2. He still beat WJ due to his overconfidence, and 3. That headbutt was badass as all hell.