Why didn't Silas... (Nemesis Prime Spoilers)?

Stepper · 04-10-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Omnius

If he moved, the writers wouldn't have a future use for Breakdown's body.

Right on,the purpose of Silas being crushed is still to use Breakdown's body.

Prime Jetscream · 04-10-2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashdisk

Perhaps. Those are good points. But for now, I have doubts about that. Silas himself had already encountered set backs in his dealings and reacted well to them.

For example, reacted well to being captured by Airachnid and stayed calm and collected during that time. He was also tricked by Jack; who stole his phone, but took the opportunity to find the bots secret to Trasformation. That was also the time when Arcee escaped. Then there was the loss of the t-cog; after it was re-taken by Bumblebee. He found a replacement. He also reacted well to the loss of the dingus, quickly finding another goal.

Looking at these past incidents and how Silas was able to make the best out of a loss or a bad situation, I think he would have been able to adapt in the latest episode as well.

I think if they wanted to injure Silas for the ending. Or maybe stun him for a while, they could have just had Fowler shoot Silas in the back.

But these are just my opinion on the matter.

Anyway, it is still a good episode.

When you said "Dingus" I had a bunch of memories of a troll on another site who kept calling everybody a dingus...

Prowl · 04-10-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by spiritprime

Because physics shut up.

Thank you.

FanimusMaximus · 04-10-2012, 08:54 AM

Why not? You kidding I'd let myself get crushed by a Knock-off Optimus if it ment being turned into a Kick ass Transformer!

toaster · 04-10-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TFtoycollector

Although he is an idiot, i'd say he was just shit scared and couldn't move.

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Originally Posted by skylinezan

the writers did it. so we could have that "holy shit" moment at the end of the episode.

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Originally Posted by moreprimeland

The writers needed him 'squished' so they could get him to the next level...and use Breakdown's body...after all it was just lying there and CGI is expensive so they needed to find a way to keep using both 'bodies'.

Breakdown

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Originally Posted by seekerblackout

He was in shock. Seems obvious to me.

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Originally Posted by Wheeljack_Prime

Or time only appeared to move that slow to the viewer. In "real time", he may not have had the opportunity to react quickly enough.

Yeah,but he was just standing there, screaming. Plus he dissected Breakdown, a big brawler. There were so many other moments that he could've been in shock:The autobots transforming in front of him, Bumblebee coming out of nowhere and attacking his soldiers,Bulkhead demolishing them,etc. He could've been in shock before but it was at the momemt that he could've died. And it's not just TFP that does this. Many other shows do this and I facepalm all the time when those moments happen.

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Originally Posted by spiritprime

Because physics shut up.

I'm probably retarded considering I actually thought this you acting like a jerk.

PlanckEpoch · 04-10-2012, 11:51 AM

It's an example of this where I just can't really get into the writing of Prime. The writers are only doing the bare minimum necessary to move the story, and they're STILL not trying to write in anything compelling or interesting.

The FACT of the matter is that Silas has been shown in the past to be a guy who is in control of himself at all times. He's well trained, experienced and calculating, and considering MECH has never seen cybertronians until they did, he managed to bag some of them and actually extract information about them. He's an absolute badass, with loose morals and ethics...a human Megatron.

But then they do this BS. This is pretty BS on the part of Silas. We're talking about a guy who time and time again after each defeat, even running afoul of Airachnid when he lost Arcee, keeps his cool and brushes it off and just plans for the next encounter. He always has an escape plan, or a way to get out of a situation with minimal setback. Then something like this happens. He freezes like a little kid with his hand caught in a cookie jar.

I just don't feel that such an expression or reaction is proper for a character like Silas. It defuses the sense of threat if something like this happens. I can accept that something bad happens to him, but at least write it consistent with his character. What if Megatron's final moments were him going out screaming like a wuss? Everyone would hate that!

Transformed · 04-10-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by toaster

Why didn't he move when his Optimus Knock off was about to crush him ?

Deer in headlights syndrome...

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Originally Posted by PlanckEpoch

The FACT of the matter is that Silas has been shown in the past to be a guy who is in control of himself at all times. He's well trained, experienced and calculating, and considering MECH has never seen cybertronians until they did, he managed to bag some of them and actually extract information about them. He's an absolute badass, with loose morals and ethics...a human Megatron.

And yet he has been caught off guard in season 1 and 2: when Jack managed to call for military support on the two-way radio he swiped from Silas'; and again last week when Fowler distracted him long enough for Optimus to collect himself.

Prime Jetscream · 04-10-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spiritprime

Because physics shut up.

Sig'd.

DepthWave · 04-10-2012, 12:11 PM

His Old Age has come.

Prime Jetscream · 04-10-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DepthWave

His Old Age has come.

Breakdown's helmet will turn grey now.

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PlanckEpoch Brony Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,121 Location: Portland, OR Collection Count: A lot! News Credits: 1	It's an example of this where I just can't really get into the writing of Prime. The writers are only doing the bare minimum necessary to move the story, and they're STILL not trying to write in anything compelling or interesting. The FACT of the matter is that Silas has been shown in the past to be a guy who is in control of himself at all times. He's well trained, experienced and calculating, and considering MECH has never seen cybertronians until they did, he managed to bag some of them and actually extract information about them. He's an absolute badass, with loose morals and ethics...a human Megatron. But then they do this BS. This is pretty BS on the part of Silas. We're talking about a guy who time and time again after each defeat, even running afoul of Airachnid when he lost Arcee, keeps his cool and brushes it off and just plans for the next encounter. He always has an escape plan, or a way to get out of a situation with minimal setback. Then something like this happens. He freezes like a little kid with his hand caught in a cookie jar. I just don't feel that such an expression or reaction is proper for a character like Silas. It defuses the sense of threat if something like this happens. I can accept that something bad happens to him, but at least write it consistent with his character. What if Megatron's final moments were him going out screaming like a wuss? Everyone would hate that! XBL: Planck Epoch Watch my reviews here! http://www.youtube.com/user/Halcyon554 My Trade/Sale Feedback

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