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The difference there is that all the different versions of G1 all feature the G1 versions of the characters in them. There are plot holes just looking at the cartoon alone but they're clearly still the same characters plot holes or not.

Where as Prime and the games the characters are not even the same guys.

They're more or less designed in the same way as War Within was to be a prequel to G1. Both do a horrible job of that actually considering the Dinobots weren't even built yet but every character in WFC is a direct homage to G1. There isn't even a Bulkhead in the game so where the heck did he come from? He said he joined team Prime just before they left Cybertron so he should be in FoC but there hasn't been any news of that happening. Bumblebee is a direct homage of G1 in the game and a direct homage to the movies in Prime. The game version of Arcee is also a homage to G1 and defiantly not the character we all know and love from Prime.

Plot holes MIGHT be over looked if any of the characters from the series were actually in the games but they're not. Despite the fact that there are so many similarities with G1 I'm hesitant to even say the games are in that continuity either so the plot hole actually aren't that easy to over look which is why I put the big MIGHT in that first sentence.

Except WFC didn't lead into Prime because Prime has a totally different history. The only thing they have in common is Cybertron being a dead planet with is also true for the movies and they're not considered the same continuity. And Dark Energon which in Prime was never even used on Cybertron. So the only connection it has to the games is nothing more than an idea being reused sense it doesn't even fit in with the history.

And yet as I stated above, there has been no news of Bulkhead even appearing in FoC. It seems like the only thing they did was slap Prime Cliffjumper's head on WfC Cliffjumper's body and go THERE they're connected now.

Anyway, I personally think Hasbro was misquoted as the way I read it was that they were making EVERY Transformers franchise the same continuity in the future rather than every future franchise was the same continuity. So that would mean Hasbro said that everything from G1 to Prime was now all one universe. I also think the binder of ideas on how they hope to accomplish this is something they started to put together to try and explain away all the plot holes that would cause and then got thrown out when they realized it wasn't possible. Considering I've tried to do the same thing and my head exploded, it's not happening. They'll just make everyone at Hasbro explode into a big mess of confusion trying to do that.

That's all well and fine, but Prime and WfC are officially part of the Aligned Family. WfC is not part of Gen 1. Same with Fall. Even if they don't make it an official prequel to the Prime tv series, it will still be in the same family instead of Gen 1. That is official.

Um... what???

How so? There's nothing officially connecting them.

Fair enough there's nothing officially connecting them either.

So you're agreeing with me now?

Nope you're just writing a contradicting sentence. How is it official if you just admitted it's not? If they don't make official that means it's not official. It's official even if it isn't is a freaking oxymoron.

It's official because Hasbro made it official. And I'm not agreeing with you. I'm saying the possibility is there that they won't go far enough in tying it in.

War, Fall, and Prime are all in the same family because they were designed to be in the same family from the beginning. That is why there was so much confusion over whether or not War is the Prequel to Prime. Even if it's not the official Prequel, they have the same backstory. Like Megatron being a gladiator fighting for the rights of the lower castes then going mad with power. That is in War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime.

No they didn't. All they did was say that they had plans for an aligned continuity. None of their plans have actually shown up in the fiction. It's called an abandoned idea.

Well you keep contradicting yourself and your contradictions agree with me.

There's so much confusion over it because Hasbro said they were going to do it and even though they didn't people still claim they did.

See there, you just agreed with me again.

That's also in G1. The original Megatron, and in fact all the G1 Decepticons were originally designed to fight in gladiator battles for the entertainment of the Quintessons.

A lot of ideas and concepts in Prime were in other continuities but that doesn't make them the same continuity any more than any other series is the same continuity sense they all share the same ideas and concepts.

Prime has also shown that Transformers have Sparks which was first introduced in Beast Wars.

There's a weapon called a Spark Extractor which was first introduced in Beast Machines.

Starscream joined the Autobots though brief as that was it happened before in Armada.

Jack and Arcee are kinda like Kicker and High Wire... except about 100 times better but they're both teenage boy with transforming motorcycle.

Megatron's cybertronian jet mode is a homage to 2007 Megatron.

Megatron spending part of the first season dead or in a coma is similar to Animated spending the entire first season dead or just as a severed head. Both are also similar to movie Megatron who spent most of the first movie frozen and then died before being resurrected for the second movie. That's actually a concept I wish they would stop repeating because no one liked it the first time.

We've also seen something that seems very much a homage to the Magnus Hammer first introduced in Animated.

This is also the first time sense G1 that Unicron has been defeated using the Matrix. Even though the Matrix was in the Unicron Trilogy it was never used in that way.

None of this proves that they are the same continuity. The only thing that proves if something is the same continuity as something else is what we see on screen.

To give an example, the Unicron Trilogy also does not work as the same continuity because of various plot holes that is all Armada's fault, badly dubbing it into English, and including a series that in Japan was never intended to be the same continuity. However Hasbro did make an attempt to link them by inserting new animation of the Armada kids grown up into Cybertron where they don't actually appear ever except for that one scene.

As lame attempt as that was Hasbro has not done anything to try to connect WfC with Prime. In fact just the opposite. They've had plenty of opportunity with flash backs in the series to show events from the games and it hasn't happened. They also had an opportunity when Jack and Arcee were in Kaon to show WfC Megatron sense there are statues of him in the game but the statues were of Prime Megatron. If anything Hasbro seems to be going out of their way to disconnect the two from being the same continuity.

It seems like HASBRO would be better off calling this the "Aligned Generation" and not "Continuity Family". Continuity means that it has to fit together. Generation means one version of something so it might be easier to accept it containing different stories based one a small story bible.

I'm not contradicting myself. I said from the beginning that War is not necessarily in the same continuity, but is in the same continuity family. And I said that Hasbro requested High Moon tie in Fall to the show more. Whether High Moon does or not, it does not change Hasbro requesting them to.

And yes, Megatron being a gladiator is not new. I have read the UK comics. But Megatron being a good guy that turned bad is pretty new. It started with the Aligned family, ie War, Exodus, and Prime. Every other iteration has Megatron go from gladiator champion to despot immediately. IDW's Megatron Origins took that route, then retconned it to Megatron writing a manifesto of Cybertronian freedom and being passed over as a Prime for Orion after Prime and War had already shown the same.

Anyways, I'm done. We've derailed this thread enough. You're not going to accept that the Aligned family is real and that War/Fall and Prime are part of the same family, even with official statements from Hasbro, like this:

The Allspark: Transformers News Movie Comics Animated - Hasbro: WFC, Exodus, Prime All Belong To Same Continuity

So I'm just dropping it.

Continuity Family actually seems to be the Wiki's fandom term for the way Hasbro officially organizes their multiverse.

Continuity family - Transformers Wiki

I wonder who's going to try to kill Megatron? I feel like it's going to be Starscream and Anrachnid.