Jack Reynor Officially in TF4

Ok so 1 mediocre movie with 2 terrible sequels is no "substance".

You know you would be right to say people complaining about Bay with no warrant if this was the first movie... this will be the 4th.

Nothing indicates that bay will change his style of low substance/high octane action movies.

do not blame michael bay.
hasbro, paramount and dreamworks are the real responsible.

how about all the substandard movies Bay has made before Transformers, is hasbro and dreamworks responsible for that too?

Well, you can blame them for not imposing more restraint on him - presumably they see all the money and get distracted - but that wouldn't be a problem if they'd hired someone with different sensibilities to begin with.

Transformers is a property of hasbro.
dreamworks (spielberg) are paramount and funders of the project.
Bay is the director who has power over the franchise more than hasbro, paramount and dreamworks?

He has the power to make a good movie. Transformers will make money regardless of who directs, but Hasbro is not willing to say no to Bay because of that money. SO yeah, he has more power over the movie franchise.

He also has the power to make a great movie, if he'd simply take more looks at scripts the have real story and gravatas. He has a chance to make the next ET, if he wanted to, but instead he surrounds himself with terrible writers that stroke his fetish for the nonsensical fantasy action, with no story.

With the right script, and a higher dose of his ADD medicine he definitely has a chance to be the next (80s) Spielberg. But hes a one trick pony that refuses to challenge himself as a Director and a storyteller. He makes popculture junk and aside from cinematography, his movies will never be shown in film class, and his stories will never become classics.

Thats your opinion..other might like all 3 of them, some like 1 and 2, another 2 and 3.. And thats fine, we all like diffrent things that is not the point but statements like yours make it seem ita definitiv that the movies suck but that is still just your opinion.

the point is when a user post nothing more then this.

" I hate bay, the movie sucks arse I will never see them. "
" I saw 2 minitues then I was remided it was Bay and left the theater"

these are the posters that gets anyoing that gives absolutely nothing to the discussion.

Or when you discuss a mather of the movies and a poster comes in..." its crap because its bay" and then post nothings more.

doesnt matter what I say anyways. I could breakdown point for point how all 3 movies failed as storytelling mediums, and I could just as easily be shut down as a hater. I'll just stop responding to these posts.

I just feel if Bay had any class, or self respect what so ever, he'd stand down and give another director a chance to breath new life into these characters.
but he doesnt, and it wont happen.

[QUOTE=QLRformer;8800851New trilogy, old robots. Not sounding too bad, as long as they can rectify the "goofs" from the earlier two films.[/QUOTE]

They Can`t. Im sticking my neck out here, but I know they can`t, HE can`t!