Aicn q & a transformers prime: Rage of the dinobots!

The Star Trek comics actually WERE written by Orci/Kurtzman though. So I think it's safe to take those as canon.

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There's nothing to deny. But there IS something to reject, at least until the contradictions and inconsistencies are resolved.

It's not that I'd love just one continuity to the fiction - I'd actually prefer it. But as a skeptic and a rationalist, I have to take this position until I'm convinced.

Didn't Roddenberry say that nothing 'counts' except the TV shows and the movies before he died? Though that's not to say they have to adhere to his word.

I honestly do not care enough about the whole thing to get as angry as some of the users here are. I mean...no offence, but if people are taking this as a personal insult, then they must have really thin skin. The words of a bunch of people who don't know me, which are concerned with completely fictional events, have no bearing on my mind. I just come up with my own interpretation and leave the rest alone.

In case I might have Ben on the list, I'm really not angry about it at all, just find it quite silly. (and fairly poor brand stewardship on Hasbro's part)

Pretty much. Though I'm inclined to find the fan reaction to the whole thing even sillier than the continuity itself. Then again, I'm used to screwed up continuity, being a Star Wars fan...frankly, compared to some of the stuff I've seen, this is rather minor. FOC did a lot to clean up certain small but meaningful parts of the timeline, at least to me-- it's mostly just the order in which some things happened, the art styles (and the disparity there is really no worse than IDW's when they change artists), and the presence or absence of certain MacGuffins that strikes me as still needing work. And if anyone can make sense of it all, it's John Barber.

Compared to, say, Even Piell dying in the Clone Wars show mere months after a novel was published in which he survived Order 66, or Greedo becoming his own father for several years until George Lucas decided he wasn't, this Aligned nonsense is pretty easy for me to process.

Yeah, like maybe they could have given Cliffjumper in Fall of Cybertron his head from the Prime TV show.
Or maybe they could have modeled the Path Blaster in Fall of Cybertron after Optimus Primes gun in Prime.
Or maybe they could have not only shown how the Decepticons acquire the Nemesis starship, but given a reason for the consciousness that animates it in the episode Flying Mind.

They made no effort at all to connect the two storylines.

I'm amazed at the number of people that not only want the storylines to be unconnected, but say the the Cybertron games are closer to G1.
Whether comic or cartoon, the Cybertron games are further in conflict with G1 than they are with Prime.

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I actually suspect that Bumblebee got blown away in FoC to justify his redesign into something Prime-ish. As for Optimus and Megatron, clearly they change bodies like clothes anyway.

Also, designs have always been only weakly tied into continuity, at best. See IDW's G1 comics, who have only recently appeared to decide what everyone actually looks like. Also, Rescue Bots design-wise is at least as hard to integrate as the video games.

As a scientist and semi-pro geek myself, I have come to accept that skepticism and rationalism are simply exercises when it comes to fictional worlds. From the perspective of the Transformers universe, this was essentially an interview with God. Barber's interpretation of Hasbro's "Alignment" initiative is very informative, because that perspective WILL influence fiction.

And yes, there are people who literally deny the evidence stacking up that Hasbro reads Aligned continuity as more or less one thing. Whenever the topic comes up they plunge to the level of individual differences between two cartoons, a novel series, and a video game series that are more or less being worked on contemporaneously, with cross-communication going on largely at the top levels. To which I say, yes, sure, these all exist and they all present problems for any literal reading of Aligned as one perfect continuity.

But now we have John Barber who made the movieverse make sense on the case writing a literal story bridge between Fall of Cybertron and Season 3 of Prime. There are a bazillion years of story that are completely wide open to smooth over gaps.

Right now I kind of read Exodus + Prime as one thing, and WfC/FoC as a different, closely related thing. But I'm certainly open to any revelations moving forward. If a few lines in the Prime show wind up standing out as errors, I'm fine with that. We ignore much weirder BS in other continuities and meta-continuities.

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Barber's editing this, not writing.

He wouldn't be doing his job as editor if he wasn't advising the guys who actually are writing on how to make it make sense.

Even still, I doubt he's going to get them to explain every single error in the Aligned continuity like I'm certain he would if he were writing.