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Old 07-30-2012, 08:50 AM   #21
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I like the new direction of the MP line, though, they seems in scale with each other (not counting seekers) and it's like the "perfect G1 collection".
Who says they aren't in scale with the seekers? If this is supposed to be in scale with Prime and the seekers are roughly at the height of Prime then this is in scale with the seekers
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:04 AM   #22
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Didn't Ratchet hit a seeker with a flying kick once?

http://images.wikia.com/transformers...het_karate.jpg

Does that count?
By rights Kickback should have made a career out of moves like that too.
For another example that definately happened in the non-Japanese G1 Animated continuity though, in the '86 movie, Ravage tried to pounce on Blaster and/or his minions and the Autobot comms officer kicked him in the guts mid flight for his troubles. High kicks also strike me as something Mirage may have done or would do.

That is to say nothing of Dinobot tail-whippings, either.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:13 AM   #23
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I always see pictures of TF toys doing high kicks to show off stability, yet I can barely recall ever seeing TFs do high kicks in-fiction.
You're absolutely right. Hah, I never noticed that before. Forst thing I seem to do when I get my toys is to see whether they can kneel, an actual position many hold.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:31 AM   #24
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I always see pictures of TF toys doing high kicks to show off stability, yet I can barely recall ever seeing TFs do high kicks in-fiction
Devastator did high-kick Grimlock in the 1986 movie a little bit like that MP Sideswipe photo, although Dev's was a little bit of a high back-kick. Didn't know the big idiot had it in him

Maybe we need a thread listing all the kicks in TF media with screengrabs and scans for proof. Every other kind of pointless thread has already been made so one more won't hurt.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:56 AM   #25
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More importantly, there are no high kicks in judo!!! I call foul!! This is more like Jet Taekwondo!

(maybe the high-kick is so he can reach the jet? )

This looks like a great figure. However, this does not look like a "masterpiece" figure. Now, before somebody starts on about the changing definition of "masterpiece", let's remember the real primary purpose of the MP designation... to imply a superlative piece of work that justifies an according price tag.

I'm going to say it again. He really does look like an especially awesome Deluxe. I'm not using this term carelessly, nor in strictly denigrative terms. That's kind of what he looks like. The only thing he really has that makes him "MP" is a strong G1 accuracy.

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And it's not enough said. If anyone thinks this is a deluxe they have never seen a deluxe in their confused lives. Deluxes aren't the size of Alts, have die-cast or rubber tires or are fucking MPs because that's what this is.
Who's confused here, Split? Have you really looked at these pictures at all? This is not the size of an Alternator, nor does it seem to have rubber tires, nor do we see ANY indication of diecast (usually this is visible in unpainted prototypes). Nor does it have the level of high detail associated with MP figures. Nor does it have cabin detail like Alternators or Alternity.

I'd gladly be proven wrong on all those fronts, but from all the evidence provided, I think it's pretty clear. Maybe he's actually really super-solid and full of awesome ratchet joints. I'd like that. But I don't see any rubber tires or metal here. And this dude is NOT that big.

In fact, in terms of detail and engineering and materials, this seems like a very poor cousin to Alternity, which themselves were beefy deluxes, but with all the traits we might normally associate with MP figures (metal content, extensive engineering, internal detail, opening doors, rubber tires). By comparison, he really does look like a Deluxe.

And I'm cool with that. I'm not an MP purist. I don't need diecast, rubber tires or internal bucket-seats. This still looks like the best damn Sideswipe I'd ever expect to own. I just don't want to pay a Masterpiece price for him.

I'm not sure if Hasbro's going to sell this guy, or what their price tag is going to be, but $30-$40 (canadian, even) is about the maximum I'd pay for a really, really nice Deluxe-ish Sideswipe from a mass-market toy producer. Looking at what we're getting here, and even taking into account it's "specialty" aspect, there's no way this should cost more than a contemporary Voyager.

I want it, though. Real bad.

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Have to laugh at people complaining of his price point where this guy will eventually be mass US release and you want to pay 30-40 dollars, get a grip, this is an MP figure with extras that scales with the newer MP line. Instead of complaining about price don't comment. I for one am looking forward to this figure, looks great and I love the character.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:39 AM   #27
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Oh man... I wish I could afford him....
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:48 AM   #28
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Have to laugh at people complaining of his price point where this guy will eventually be mass US release and you want to pay 30-40 dollars, get a grip, this is an MP figure with extras that scales with the newer MP line. Instead of complaining about price don't comment. I for one am looking forward to this figure, looks great and I love the character.
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Oh man... I wish I could afford him....
These two comments in a row crack me up.

And what the heck is wrong with saying "he doesn't look up to snuff for what he costs" anyway, if that's how someone feels?
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:15 AM   #29
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In fact, in terms of detail and engineering and materials, this seems like a very poor cousin to Alternity, which themselves were beefy deluxes, but with all the traits we might normally associate with MP figures (metal content, extensive engineering, internal detail, opening doors, rubber tires). By comparison, he really does look like a Deluxe.
I am completely agree with you. I started my adult transformers with Masterpiece and Alternators and this 2 toys lines was very close. When i look the SideSwipe picture, i donīt see a MP prototype. I hope we can see a picture comparation between LAMBOR BINALTECH y MP LAMBOR.

Binaltech Lambor don't have good legs articulations, but the car mode is close to real 1/24 models. I hope the final MP LAMBOR use DieCast, but if we look back to the last MP, Grimlock, Rodimus, Optimus 2 y StarScream don t have die cast part except for squeleton structure.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:54 AM   #30
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Being a fan of Alternity and Alternators, it's only natural for me to love this. Scale fits with MP-10 and even if it had die cast metal it would only be in the feet, so no big deal. This doesn't remind me of a deluxe class toy, more like a large Ultra without the crappy sound and lights feature. MP lines represent G1 characters and they all don't have interior seats. It would be nice if the tires are in fact made of rubber, but not a deal breaker. Let's try to be positive guys/gals. All this Internet rage gets old.
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$90 deluxes? Who do these guys thing they are? Perfect Effect?
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